Re: [Boston.pm] job postings

2008-06-30 Thread Ricker, William
i may be evil but not THAT evil! :) Uri, it's not about any actual evil. I would really really like to say Yes to your kind offer. But Sean and I have to worry about the *perception* of evil even where it isn't. Local companies, some of whom sponsor Boston.PM, expect postings to the list via

Re: [Boston.pm] job postings

2008-06-30 Thread Greg London
If we're going to have a human act as a filter for jobs posted on the perl monger list, I think they should be free of any obvious conflicts of interest. I don't think we can ISO2000 the job posting into some kind of formal process such that perception problems disappear. Greg London

Re: [Boston.pm] job postings

2008-06-30 Thread Tom Metro
William Ricker wrote: Or we could consider a change of policy to just allow posting (with same caveat of locality and relevance), thus avoiding the issue entirely. Practically speaking, the list isn't moderated, so any job poster who is conscientious enough to read the list policy and follow

Re: [Boston.pm] job postings

2008-06-30 Thread Mason Loring Bliss
On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 02:38:02PM -0400, Tom Metro wrote: As long as we provide a contact person that posters can consult with on questionable items, self-moderation will probably be fine. I support this model. It seems fairly simple. Given that the purpose of moderation is to avoid abuse, we

Re: [Boston.pm] job postings

2008-06-30 Thread Tom Metro
OK, seems we have three votes for self-moderation...in other matters... Ben Tilly wrote: ...regularly make a post listing any recent jobs.perl.org offerings in the Boston area. The more I think about it, the better that option looks. Particularly if you can write an automated script to search

Re: [Boston.pm] job postings

2008-06-30 Thread Chris Devers
On Sun, 29 Jun 2008, Uri Guttman wrote: if someone else really wants to do it, fine with me but no one has piped up about it. Oh fer cryin' out loud, how hard can it be? The conflict of interest here is obvious. Sorry, Uri, but there's no getting around it. Fox guarding the henhouse and all

Re: [Boston.pm] job postings

2008-06-30 Thread Andrew Langmead
On Jun 30, 2008, at 2:39 PM, Ben Tilly wrote: There are other ways to address that. As a random one, you could publicly archive the list of requested job postings and the response on each one. That way companies can look through it and see that there is no bias. The failure mode that I

Re: [Boston.pm] job postings

2008-06-30 Thread Uri Guttman
CD == Chris Devers [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: CD On Sun, 29 Jun 2008, Uri Guttman wrote: if someone else really wants to do it, fine with me but no one has piped up about it. CD Oh fer cryin' out loud, how hard can it be? CD The conflict of interest here is obvious. Sorry, Uri, but

Re: [Boston.pm] job postings

2008-06-30 Thread Uri Guttman
TM == Tom Metro [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: TM OK, seems we have three votes for self-moderation...in other matters... TM Ben Tilly wrote: ...regularly make a post listing any recent jobs.perl.org offerings in the Boston area. The more I think about it, the better that option looks.

Re: [Boston.pm] job postings

2008-06-30 Thread Ronald J Kimball
I can see the potential conflict in interest in having someone who does recruiting work handling the job postings. Obviously it is a concern to some of our members. Very few job postings I received were rejected. I often send them back to the submitter for additional info. I reformatted most