[Boston.pm] ackathon design notes

2008-07-15 Thread Uri Guttman
hi all, here are some design and coding notes for my vision of a new core loop for ack. i divided it up into three parts, reading lines, matching and tracking, and printing results. i don't go over all the possible options as that is too detailed for this email. we will discuss them as we hack

[Boston.pm] Boston Perl Mongers technical meeting 7/15 @ MIT - (H)Ack-athon

2008-07-15 Thread Bill Ricker
Uri and Andy have agreed, so the Ack Hackathon is a go. MIT E51-376, 7/15 @ 7:15pm [ Hmm, didn't plan that but it's cute ] http://boston.pm.org/kwiki/ has directions RSVP with the reply button. -- Bill [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Boston-pm mailing

Re: [Boston.pm] RSVP for the meeting

2008-07-15 Thread Steve Scaffidi
RSVP for me, too! On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 12:43 AM, Mark J. Dulcey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not sure who is collecting them now, so I'll have to spam the list this once. I will be at the meeting on Tuesday night. ___ Boston-pm mailing list

Re: [Boston.pm] Boston Perl Mongers technical meeting 7/15 @ MIT - (H)Ack-athon

2008-07-15 Thread Bernardo Rechea
Just got back to having an Internet connection, so I'm a bit deluged with all the Ackathon stuff, but count me in, Bill. On Tuesday 15 July 2008, Bill Ricker wrote: Uri and Andy have agreed, so the Ack Hackathon is a go. MIT E51-376, 7/15 @ 7:15pm [ Hmm, didn't plan that but it's cute ]

Re: [Boston.pm] Boston Perl Mongers technical meeting 7/15 @ MIT - (H)Ack-athon

2008-07-15 Thread Steve Scaffidi
Looks like I'll be sitting this one out, guys... I told my gf and she got upset... turns out there were 'surprise' plans for my birthday... You all know it's the smart thing for me to do now ;) On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 7:42 AM, Bill Ricker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Uri and Andy have agreed, so

[Boston.pm] Force browser rendering of a partial dataset?

2008-07-15 Thread ja...@nova-sw.com
Boston Mongers, I have a perl app sending a large data set ( 1000 lines rendered) out thru apache and mod perl. I want to force the browser to begin rendering the data table before receiving the last row so that the user doesn't have to wait. HTTP books and Googling seem to turn up snippets of

Re: [Boston.pm] Force browser rendering of a partial dataset?

2008-07-15 Thread Christopher Schmidt
On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 06:31:43AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Boston Mongers, I have a perl app sending a large data set ( 1000 lines rendered) out thru apache and mod perl. I want to force the browser to begin rendering the data table before receiving the last row so that the user

Re: [Boston.pm] Force browser rendering of a partial dataset?

2008-07-15 Thread ja...@nova-sw.com
Christopher, Thanks for the reply. At one point a some years ago I believe if you defined the column widths of the table in the top row of cells browsers would render it as received since they didn't need to wait to receive that last row to calculate column widths in such a case. Do modern

Re: [Boston.pm] Force browser rendering of a partial dataset?

2008-07-15 Thread Chris Devers
On Tue, 15 Jul 2008, Christopher Schmidt wrote: On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 06:31:43AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Boston Mongers, I have a perl app sending a large data set ( 1000 lines rendered) out thru apache and mod perl. I want to force the browser to begin rendering the data

Re: [Boston.pm] Force browser rendering of a partial dataset?

2008-07-15 Thread ja...@nova-sw.com
Thanks, Chris. Looks like we're going to have to experiment which is not an encouraging prospect due to the variations in browsers, and the effects of browser version upgrades. We already have a heavily CSS-based non-table layout so maybe that's an option. Googling had turned up quite a bit

Re: [Boston.pm] ackathon design notes

2008-07-15 Thread Uri Guttman
BR == Bernardo Rechea [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: BR 1. Ack's context is heavily line-oriented. Would it be too difficult to make BR the fixes generic enough to parameterize the type of context unit that is BR shown (i.e., not only lines, but also words or characters, etc.). BR 2.

Re: [Boston.pm] Force browser rendering of a partial dataset?

2008-07-15 Thread Christopher Schmidt
On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 10:52:45AM -0700, Ben Tilly wrote: On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 9:01 AM, Christopher Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For the record, the problem you're trying to solve is probably something like 'force rendering of partially complete HTML' or something along those

Re: [Boston.pm] ackathon design notes

2008-07-15 Thread Steve Scaffidi
Even though I can't be there tonight, I'd still like to contribute *something* I propose that ack should have a mascot: http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/881400078/ -- -- Steve Scaffidi [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Boston-pm mailing list

Re: [Boston.pm] Force browser rendering of a partial dataset?

2008-07-15 Thread Ben Tilly
On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 11:11 AM, Christopher Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 10:52:45AM -0700, Ben Tilly wrote: On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 9:01 AM, Christopher Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For the record, the problem you're trying to solve is probably something

Re: [Boston.pm] Spam:*, Re: Force browser rendering of a partial dataset?

2008-07-15 Thread ja...@nova-sw.com
Thanks, Ben, that's a great help. We'll add the 'fixed' style to the table. We've been gradually coming to similar conclusions for the server side and are looking for hooks in the interface to start sending the response earlier. Luckily this app runs mostly inside firewalls so we may able to

Re: [Boston.pm] ackathon design notes

2008-07-15 Thread Uri Guttman
SS == Steve Scaffidi [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: SS Even though I can't be there tonight, I'd still like to contribute *something* SS I propose that ack should have a mascot: SS http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/881400078/ send that to andy and the ack dev list! :) uri --

Re: [Boston.pm] Force browser rendering of a partial dataset?

2008-07-15 Thread ja...@nova-sw.com
Thanks, Bill, another good option to consider. Might be the best of all if we get blocked on the HTTPS side. Thanks to all who so quickly and generously shared your thoughts. I conclude that our initial impression is correct -- there isn't a good single reference on this topic and we're going

[Boston.pm] [job] Perl Instructor, Harvard Extension School, Cambridge

2008-07-15 Thread Ronald J Kimball
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Re: [Boston.pm] Boston Perl Mongers technical meeting 7/15 @ MIT - (H)Ack-athon

2008-07-15 Thread Bernardo Rechea
Grr, after all, I can't make it to tonight's meeting. Last minute change of plans has derailed mine. Nevertheless, I'm looking forward to peruse the improved code. Bernardo On Tuesday 15 July 2008, Bernardo Rechea wrote: Just got back to having an Internet connection, so I'm a bit deluged

Re: [Boston.pm] ackathon design notes

2008-07-15 Thread Jeremy Muhlich
On Tue, 2008-07-15 at 14:23 -0400, Steve Scaffidi wrote: I propose that ack should have a mascot: http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/881400078/ $ ack --thpppt _ /| \'o.O' =(___)= Uack --thpppt! ___ Boston-pm mailing list

[Boston.pm] Ack-A-thon results (1)

2008-07-15 Thread Bill Ricker
We did some specs for new main loop. I/O is slow print rarely, print late; read early too! temporarily assume: prepopulate [q{},q{}]xB requirement: print '--' unless first side case: if stdout is autoflush, do so also invariant: match is set iff there is a match in the buffer

[Boston.pm] Ack-A-thon results (2)

2008-07-15 Thread Bill Ricker
Uri showed us his table driven tests in http://search.cpan.org/src/URI/Sort-Maker-0.06/t/ and his buffered line-reader in http://search.cpan.org/src/URI/File-ReadBackwards-1.04/ReadBackwards.pm We hacked on Read Backwards to make a read-forwards, that is start for non-OO inner inner thing for Ack

[Boston.pm] Next tech meeting topic discussion?

2008-07-15 Thread Bill Ricker
We updated the topics queue on the wiki at the end of the meeting. http://boston.pm.org/kwiki/index.cgi?TechMeetingTopics Volunteer for a topic there, or volunteer for a new topic, or suggest a new one. -- Bill Boston.PM facilitator [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[Boston.pm] FW: Pittsburgh Perl Workshop 2008: A whole new side of PPW.

2008-07-15 Thread Bob Clancy
From the Google Groups Pittsburgh Perl Workshop Announce group. -- Bob Begin forwarded message Subject: Pittsburgh Perl Workshop 2008: A whole new side of PPW. Date: 7/15/2008 11:00:10 PM From: rblackwe To: Pittsburgh Perl Workshop Announce A whole new side of PPW. This

Re: [Boston.pm] Ack-A-thon results (1)

2008-07-15 Thread Bob Clancy
I wrote some testcase on a yellow-pad while on the bus-ride home. I'll try and rework those notes into an email when I get time (possibly tomorrow night). The normal case that bugged me the most on the way home was a single matching line. That case works with the exception of one more case