[Boston.pm] Fwd: [pm_groups] Summer of Code Student Deadline

2009-04-02 Thread Bill Ricker
-- Forwarded message -- From: Eric Wilhelm scratchcomput...@gmail.com Date: Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 3:00 AM Subject: [pm_groups] Summer of Code Student Deadline To: pm_gro...@pm.org Cc: Jonathan Leto jal...@gmail.com Hi all, Thanks to Josh McAdams, we have a video for you to pass

[Boston.pm] Larry's MIT talk

2009-04-02 Thread Tom Metro
flucifr...@acm.org wrote: The first part was very fun, the second was computer language porn - several of the non-compiler crowd ran on that :) Lots of people, the hall was half full. I attended the MIT presentation. I didn't notice many Boston.pm-ers there, aside from Uri, of course, who

[Boston.pm] Discount for O'Reilly Open Source Convention (OSCON)

2009-04-02 Thread Ronald J Kimball
The 2009 O'Reilly Open Source Convention Moves to San Jose, CA-- Registration Now Open, So Make Your Plans. In trying times such as these, saving money becomes a bigger priority for everyone. While challenging, the current global situation provides the open source community with the opportunity

Re: [Boston.pm] Larry's MIT talk

2009-04-02 Thread Uri Guttman
TM == Tom Metro tmetro-boston...@vl.com writes: TM I attended the MIT presentation. I didn't notice many Boston.pm-ers TM there, aside from Uri, of course, who made a call for MIT faculty and TM staff to talk to him about YAPC (I don't think he got any takers, TM unfortunately; maybe we

Re: [Boston.pm] Larry's MIT talk

2009-04-02 Thread Stephen Jarjoura
Just for the record, both I and a co-worker were there as well. I mostly lurk on the list as there is little I can contribute ... but I'm a Boston.PM'er, too! I enjoyed the great deal of humor, including the inside jokes. And, if there were 120..150 people present, then that's also the

Re: [Boston.pm] Larry's MIT talk

2009-04-02 Thread Nick Patch
On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 3:32 PM, Tom Metro tmetro-boston...@vl.com wrote: I attended the MIT presentation. I didn't notice many Boston.pm-ers there, I was there with a co-worker, but I don't come to many meetings. Larry made a request for people to download and test the current Perl 6

Re: [Boston.pm] Larry's MIT talk

2009-04-02 Thread Sartak
On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 4:15 PM, Stephen Jarjoura st...@runester.com wrote: I enjoyed the great deal of humor, including the inside jokes. And, if there were 120..150 people present, then that's also the approximate card count for his slide deck. He actually had nearly 500 slides. Shawn

Re: [Boston.pm] Larry's MIT talk

2009-04-02 Thread Federico Lucifredi
Sartak wrote: On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 4:15 PM, Stephen Jarjoura st...@runester.com wrote: I enjoyed the great deal of humor, including the inside jokes. And, if there were 120..150 people present, then that's also the approximate card count for his slide deck. He actually had nearly 500

Re: [Boston.pm] Larry's MIT talk

2009-04-02 Thread Ricker, William
He actually had nearly 500 slides. And all in XUL, allegedly :-) There are a couple Perl based tools to generate Xul slideshows from an outline. I hope he used one of those, would like to know which. Probably can find out with google-fu, we won't be the first to ask. When the toolchain and

Re: [Boston.pm] Larry's MIT talk

2009-04-02 Thread Bill Ricker
On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 3:32 PM, Tom Metro tmetro-boston...@vl.com wrote: I attended the MIT presentation. I didn't notice many Boston.pm-ers there, aside from Uri, of course, I looked right at you! I was sitting between Bob R and Duane B a couple rows higher than you, to your right (stage

Re: [Boston.pm] Larry's MIT talk

2009-04-02 Thread Jerrad Pierce
I was also there, as was lurking member Alex Vandiver. -- Free map of local environmental resources: http://CambridgeMA.GreenMap.org -- MOTD on Boomtime, the 19th of Discord, in the YOLD 3175: You don't need a Swiss Army knife to cut yourself, a piece of paper will do just fine. --JP

Re: [Boston.pm] Discount for O'Reilly Open Source Convention (OSCON)

2009-04-02 Thread Tom Metro
Ronald J Kimball wrote: The 2009 O'Reilly Open Source Convention Moves to San Jose, CA-- Registration Now Open, So Make Your Plans. Do you think they'll ever hold one of these in Boston? Once upon a time O'Reilly seemed to have more of a presence here. They still have offices here (no?), but

Re: [Boston.pm] Larry's MIT talk

2009-04-02 Thread Mike Williams
On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 9:41 PM, Jerrad Pierce belg4...@pthbb.org wrote: I was also there, as was lurking member Alex Vandiver. -- I went to both talks, and am glad I did. The openings were hilarious and hearing the perl6 stuff two nights in a row has inspired me to start playing with rakudo

Re: [Boston.pm] Larry's MIT talk

2009-04-02 Thread Tom Metro
Uri Guttman wrote: i would say more like 100 but i didn't try to make a better counting. I could see 2/3rds of the hall and did a partial head count. The right had 40 people, and the center had over 50, while the left, where I was seated, seemed more sparsely populated, so I estimated 120

Re: [Boston.pm] Larry's MIT talk

2009-04-02 Thread Uri Guttman
TM == Tom Metro tmetro-boston...@vl.com writes: ...but the rules engine is new ground... TM I figured you'd take note of that, given your rules engine work. very different rules engines. mine was about async logical flow control. larry's is grammar. i still haven't come up with a final

Re: [Boston.pm] Larry's MIT talk

2009-04-02 Thread Federico Lucifredi
Ricker, William wrote: He actually had nearly 500 slides. And all in XUL, allegedly :-) There are a couple Perl based tools to generate Xul slideshows from an outline. I hope he used one of those, would like to know which. Probably can find out with google-fu, we won't be the first to

Re: [Boston.pm] Discount for O'Reilly Open Source Convention (OSCON)

2009-04-02 Thread Andrew Langmead
On Thu, 2009-04-02 at 21:42 -0400, Tom Metro wrote: Do you think they'll ever hold one of these in Boston? Once upon a time O'Reilly seemed to have more of a presence here. They still have offices here (no?), but I had the impression they started out here. According to

Re: [Boston.pm] Discount for O'Reilly Open Source Convention (OSCON)

2009-04-02 Thread Ben Tilly
Please note that OSCON spent several years in Portland. Saying that Portland is part of Boston is like saying that Boston is part of New York. Ben On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 6:33 PM, Andrew Langmead andrew.langm...@verizon.net wrote: On Thu, 2009-04-02 at 21:42 -0400, Tom Metro wrote: Do you

Re: [Boston.pm] Discount for O'Reilly Open Source Convention (OSCON)

2009-04-02 Thread Ben Tilly
Gah, I meant that Portland is part of CA is like..etc. (I should drink less before replying to email.) Ben On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 8:12 PM, Ben Tilly bti...@gmail.com wrote: Please note that OSCON spent several years in Portland.  Saying that Portland is part of Boston is like saying that

Re: [Boston.pm] Discount for O'Reilly Open Source Convention (OSCON)

2009-04-02 Thread Andrew Langmead
On Thu, 2009-04-02 at 20:12 -0700, Ben Tilly wrote: Please note that OSCON spent several years in Portland. I had forgotten that they moved to Portland. I guess its been years since I've even considered checking with my employer to see if a conference like this was in the budget, even as

Re: [Boston.pm] Discount for O'Reilly Open Source Convention (OSCON)

2009-04-02 Thread Bill Ricker
On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 11:12 PM, Ben Tilly bti...@gmail.com wrote: Please note that OSCON spent several years in Portland.  Saying that Portland is part of Boston is like saying that Boston is part of New York. But still it was the left coast Portland, not the right Portland (or original

Re: [Boston.pm] Larry's MIT talk

2009-04-02 Thread Bob Rogers
From: Tom Metro tmetro-boston...@vl.com Date: Thu, 02 Apr 2009 22:12:00 -0400 Uri Guttman wrote: ...much of the rest was fancy ops and OO stuff... I remember the fancy ops but I don't remember much to do with OO, aside from some syntax variations (arrow changes to dot). I've

Re: [Boston.pm] Discount for O'Reilly Open Source Convention (OSCON)

2009-04-02 Thread David N. Blank-Edelman
On Apr 2, 2009, at 10:39 PM, Andrew Langmead wrote: Just the other day, I was talking to a co-worker about how it would be hard to justify the cost of a conference or tutorial. If I went, would the knowledge I gained result in a $1k+ increase in productivity? So I want to give an

Re: [Boston.pm] Discount for O'Reilly Open Source Convention (OSCON)

2009-04-02 Thread Uri Guttman
BR == Bill Ricker bill.n1...@gmail.com writes: BR On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 11:12 PM, Ben Tilly bti...@gmail.com wrote: Please note that OSCON spent several years in Portland.  Saying that Portland is part of Boston is like saying that Boston is part of New York. BR But still it was

Re: [Boston.pm] Larry's MIT talk

2009-04-02 Thread Bill Ricker
On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 12:07 AM, Bob Rogers rogers-...@rgrjr.dyndns.org wrote:   Larry also mentioned that the Perl 6 MOP will support both class-based and instance-based inheritance -- and that's all he said.  I do not understand how the two can work together. having built one one the other,

Re: [Boston.pm] Discount for O'Reilly Open Source Convention (OSCON)

2009-04-02 Thread Ben Tilly
On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 7:39 PM, Andrew Langmead andrew.langm...@verizon.net wrote: On Thu, 2009-04-02 at 20:12 -0700, Ben Tilly wrote: Please note that OSCON spent several years in Portland. I had forgotten that they moved to Portland. I guess its been years since I've even considered

Re: [Boston.pm] Discount for O'Reilly Open Source Convention (OSCON)

2009-04-02 Thread Jerrad Pierce
any other largish duplicate cities you can think of in the states? Kansas City? :-P -- Free map of local environmental resources: http://CambridgeMA.GreenMap.org -- MOTD on Boomtime, the 19th of Discord, in the YOLD 3175: You don't need a Swiss Army knife to cut yourself, a piece of paper will do

Re: [Boston.pm] Larry's MIT talk

2009-04-02 Thread rob levy
For reasons I think MJD explains the best ( http://lists.warhead.org.uk/pipermail/iwe/2005-July/000130.html ) Perl's macros will never be quite nearly as good as CL's defmacro or even Scheme's hygenic macros. So obviously Perl's syntax is way too complex for Lisp-quality metaprogramming, but I

Re: [Boston.pm] Larry's MIT talk

2009-04-02 Thread Jerrad Pierce
At the MIT talk I almost asked a question can you talk a little about the macro system but it seemed like kind of an unrealistic request for the QA section so I chickened out. Well, it would have been better than the drawn-out query about Fortress, and wouldn't have prompted me to leave ;-) --