Not trying to beat a dead thread but I wanted to belatedly thank everyone
for their insightful responses.
--
David
On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 2:02 PM, John Redford eire...@hotmail.com wrote:
Tom Metro wrote:
John Redford wrote:
Perl's popular origin was based on its operation as a tool
Tom Metro wrote:
John Redford wrote:
Perl's popular origin was based on its operation as a tool that glued
together the functionality (not the code) of existing tools like sed,
grep, find, sort, sh, and so forth.
This is all true, and yet utterly irrelevant. If you look into the
Is there a compelling reason to use Perl that appeals to new
programmers? Other than resting on laurels or the arcane, what reason
do they have to pick Perl to build their new, overnight success?
I was working on a short literary work for a few friends of mine who
want to get into computers
John Redford wrote:
The future of Perl is more likely to be one of changeless stagnation,
near-universal existence, popular usage for infrastructure, and limited or
no use for general purpose programming. And I am not sure why Perl users
would be upset by that -- I don't see anyone upset that
Everyone here has very nteresting points:)
You may find this article enlightening (I am kind of lazy, so I pointed to
an article:)
http://www.bioperl.org/wiki/How_Perl_saved_human_genome
Best,
Maria
On Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 6:05 PM, Tom Metro tmetro+boston...@gmail.comwrote:
John Redford
Oops, my typo, I mean very interesting points from everyone!!!
On Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 6:05 PM, Tom Metro tmetro+boston...@gmail.comwrote:
John Redford wrote:
The future of Perl is more likely to be one of changeless stagnation,
near-universal existence, popular usage for infrastructure,
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2013 20:25:38 -0400From: David Larochelle
da...@larochelle.nameTo: john saylor js0...@gmail.comCc: Boston Perl
Mongers boston...@pm.orgSubject: Re: [Boston.pm] Perl community The Rising
Costs of Aging PerlersMessage-ID:
As a non-Perl user who knows Perl quite well and would be able to use it if
it made sense... I can't even guess what kind of features Perl would need to
be used for any given task on any given platform. These days I am using (1)
UNIX/Windows+Java+Xtend+JavaScript, with Xtext to write
UNIX system administration scripting.
And yet the the slide decks that kicked this all off recommended stripping
out all sorts of functions (which nobody is forced to use) that are useful
for this and other purposes. It's not as if Perl's namespace is anywhere
near as bad as PHP's, so the call to
I do believe Perl is very special and will not die at least during the time I
live:)
And building a strong community is very important for a language, also the
outreach and well-planned documentation for less experienced developer. I
kind of getting lost in the Perl version, mod Perl? Perl 5?
No response?
I hope you guys didn't think I was trolling. I was really hoping that
someone on this list could point to a problem space (e.g. bioinformatics)
or an application domain where they could make a compelling case for
starting a new project in Perl.
I would be concerned about the future
On Thu, 25 Jul 2013 20:25:38 -0400, David Larochelle
da...@larochelle.name wrote:
I would be concerned about the future of the language if no one can make
this case.
well, i'm not sure how hard anyone tried. and to be quite honest, the
future of perl depends on many other things besides a
I had worked in a bioinformatics lab at Cornell for 4 years, since my lab
has many existing codes written in Perl, I started to learn it and almost
wrote the program right away. I was fascinated by the flexibility of the
language, it is really easy to do parsing which is very useful in bioinfo
David Larochelle wrote:
For example, the typical argument for Python in the data analysis
space is that there are good well documented libraries...
This is a fairly recent turn of events. For the longest time, Perl had
CPAN as a huge advantage over the other languages that were encroaching
into
I forgot to mention, there are lots of Perl bioinformatics libraries in CPAN
such us BioPerl, which are very useful and unique, I used them a lot to parse
bio data.
I used both PHP and Perl for Web development also, it seems to me Php is more
friendly, just my 2 cents.
Maria
Sent from my
Thinking about this more, I realize that marketing Perl to new developers
will require there to be clear cases in which we can argue that Perl is the
obvious choice. Usually, these type of arguments rely as much on community,
libraries, and tools as core language.
For example, the typical
Bill Ricker wrote:
Three-part article by VM Brasseur @vmbrasseur
The Rising Costs of Aging Perlers
I guess this was worth writing down, but weren't we all aware that the
practitioners of Perl are aging and not enough junior developers are
being created to sustain the language as a going
A few years ago I interviewed with a big-name company that said
perl is forbidden on their projects. The interview was with the
engineering manager. and it seemed like he was driving that decision.
He said perl was too messy, too many ways to do things and
no set way to do things, so you end up
BEGIN {}
On 7/22/13 19:14 , Bill Ricker wrote:
http://anonymoushash.vmbrasseur.com/2013/07/22/the-rising-costs-of-aging-perlers-part-1-the-data/
this was good and interesting. not earthshaking but nicely done.
in the sweep of history [as i know it], i view perl as a stepping stone
on the
Hi,
I've been a lurker on the list for quite a number of years now, and
don't often write, but in this case I wanted to throw out some thoughts.
I work for Harvard Extension School (HES). We used to offer a Perl class,
and it was reasonably popular - we had (have?) some bioinformatics
On 07/23/2013 11:02 AM, Jan Jackson wrote:
However, when our previous Perl instructor moved to New Hampshire to
run an organic farm, there was no one interested in taking over the
class, so it ended, and Perl hasn't been taught at HES for some years
now.
I did submit a proposal to take over
Stevan Little's talk Perl is not dead, it is a
deadendhttps://speakerdeck.com/stevan_little/perl-is-not-dead-it-is-a-dead-endand
his recent follow on Perl
- The Detroit of Scripting
Languageshttps://speakerdeck.com/stevan_little/perl-the-detroit-of-scripting-languages
are
apropos.
On Tue, Jul
Let's also then pose the question the other way around... If the
Extension School were to bring back the Perl class, how many people would
be interested in taking it, either of less experienced programmers on the
list here or people you know? Can we also show that the demand exists?
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