Re:It's not just Bowie, or is it?

2003-07-02 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Jeroen van Baardwijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At Stardate 20030701.1734, Jan Coffey wrote: You don't think power corupts, and so you are not concerned as much about the system. That's not what I said. I know that power corrupts, but over here we consider people in power to be

Re:It's not just Bowie, or is it?

2003-06-30 Thread Bryon Daly
From: Jeroen van Baardwijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] At Stardate 20030629.0253, Steve Sloan wrote: I think it's rather odd that you have such mistrust of your government. After all, the people in your government are there because you *elected* them into those positions. Why do you vote for people

Re:It's not just Bowie, or is it?

2003-06-30 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Bryon Daly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Jeroen van Baardwijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] At Stardate 20030629.0253, Steve Sloan wrote: I think it's rather odd that you have such mistrust of your government. After all, the people in your government are there because you *elected* them

Re:It's not just Bowie, or is it?

2003-06-29 Thread Jeroen van Baardwijk
At Stardate 20030629.0253, Steve Sloan wrote: I think it's rather odd that you have such mistrust of your government. After all, the people in your government are there because you *elected* them into those positions. Why do you vote for people you don't trust? Because otherwise, we wouldn't

Re:It's not just Bowie, or is it?

2003-06-28 Thread Steve Sloan II
Jeroen van Baardwijk wrote: I think it's rather odd that you have such mistrust of your government. After all, the people in your government are there because you *elected* them into those positions. Why do you vote for people you don't trust? Because otherwise, we wouldn't have *any*

Re:ICC was Re:It's not just Bowie, or is it?

2003-06-27 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Jeroen van Baardwijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At Stardate 20030626.2044, Jan Coffey wrote: Exactly! What you propose for the ICC is representative governance, but you don't use that same system for your own country. What do you mean? We DO use representative governance!!! You

Re:ICC was Re:It's not just Bowie, or is it?

2003-06-26 Thread Jeroen van Baardwijk
At Stardate 20030626.0002, Jan Coffey wrote: IIRC, that's not going to happen: the EU recently decided NOT to federalise. Yes and the lack of the other two branches is troubeling. The EU doesn't have these three branches yet because it's not a country; the EU is a body in which a number of

Re:ICC was Re:It's not just Bowie, or is it?

2003-06-26 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Jeroen van Baardwijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At Stardate 20030626.0002, Jan Coffey wrote: IIRC, that's not going to happen: the EU recently decided NOT to federalise. Yes and the lack of the other two branches is troubeling. The EU doesn't have these three branches yet

Re:ICC was Re:It's not just Bowie, or is it?

2003-06-25 Thread Jeroen van Baardwijk
At Stardate 20030624.2056, Jan Coffey wrote: Personaly I see the ICC as a step twards European federalization. I think that is a good thing for Europe, but not for the States. It's too much too fast. Let Europe federalize first and learn what the difficulties of such a system are. IIRC, that's

Re:ICC was Re:It's not just Bowie, or is it?

2003-06-25 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Jeroen van Baardwijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At Stardate 20030624.2056, Jan Coffey wrote: Personaly I see the ICC as a step twards European federalization. I think that is a good thing for Europe, but not for the States. It's too much too fast. Let Europe federalize first and

Re:ICC was Re:It's not just Bowie, or is it?

2003-06-24 Thread Jorpho
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