Re:STOP THE SPAM!
At Stardate 20030612.2346, Jim Lewis wrote: But YOU aren't even familiar with the rules, Jeroen. YOU broke them yourself when you SILENCED Erik. Your rules say spam is unsolicited commercial email. Erik was NOT spamming by YOUR OWN RULES. Yet he received no warning before you SILENCED him. Then what do you call the repeated unwanted forwarding of my messages, complete with demands that I stop sending messages? BTW, interesting detail: if Erik's postings don't qualify as spam, then neither do my posts. Yet you (and several others) seem to agree with Erik that *my* posts were spam. Why would my posts be spam if his are not? In answer to your question about moderation, do you mean that you will be the moderator? Being the listowner, I will of course also be the moderator. But let's face it, when it comes to making this list a moderated one, I only follow the will of the community. If people use this list only for its intended purposes, I have no need to start moderating this list. If people want to continue harrassing me here, and continue discussing matters that should be discussed elsewhere, then I may have to start moderating the list. The decision is really up to the members of this community. Someone who cannot follow his own rules? Someone who has SILENCED two of our listmembers for your OWN SINS? Someone who has made death threats to three people? Tiresome as this is getting, I never made any death threats. Those alleged death threats only exist in the minds of some people with a serious lack of understanding of the English language. Is that the person who would moderate the list? That doesn't sound very moderate to me. It sounds extremist. The word moderate as used in a moderate person has a significantly different meaning from the word moderate as used in to moderate a mailing list. Jeroen van Baardwijk, Listowner _ Wonderful-World-of-Brin-L Website: http://www.Brin-L.com [Sponsored by:] _ The newest lyrics on the Net! http://lyrics.astraweb.com Click NOW!
Re:STOP THE SPAM!
At Stardate 20030611.0007, Heather Shimokawa wrote: Erik just told me that we have a listowner here who is intolerant, fascist, and a spammer. Ironic, considering that Jeroen called the listowner of the real Brin-L list intolerant, when it is really Jeroen who is at fault here. He blames his problems on other people. Jeroen was responsible for spamming the list, and he takes out his frustrations by intolerantly and fascistly unsubscribing Erik. Comment #1: This list's Etiquette Guidelines explicitly state that spam is not welcome and that addresses from which spam is received will be unsubscribed. Erik was spamming the list, so in accordance with the Etiquette Guidelines he was unsubscribed. Comment #2: Your post constitutes a personal attack against an other list member. In accordance with the Etiquette Guidelines, you hereby receive an formal warning to immediately cease this behaviour. Failure to comply may result in your removal from this list. This is the type of listowner this poor copy of the real Brin-L has. Don't you think you should unsubscribe from this fascist list and join the real Brin-L? The one that was smart enough to BAN Jeroen for death threats and repeated spamming. Do you really want to be on a list where the list owner makes death threats and spams people and blames others for his crimes? Someone who can't tolerate others to express their opinions? Heather, nobody is forcing you to stay here. If you don't like to be on this list, you are free to unsubscribe yourself. Now, please use this list only for its intended purposes: the discussion of science fiction in general and the works of David Brin in particular. Jeroen van Baardwijk _ Wonderful-World-of-Brin-L Website: http://www.Brin-L.com [Sponsored by:] _ The newest lyrics on the Net! http://lyrics.astraweb.com Click NOW!
Re:STOP THE SPAM!
At Stardate 20030610.2322, Erik Reuter wrote: Yes, Jeroen did, by repeatedly spamming me. It is not my fault, I repeat, you need to stop blaming me and take it up with Jeroen. He is totally responsible, I am not. You are responsible. It was *your* decision to start spamming this list. Anyway, as spamming will not be tolerated here, immediately after this message is sent you will be unsubscribed. Have a nice day. Jeroen van Baardwijk, Listowner _ Wonderful-World-of-Brin-L Website: http://www.Brin-L.com [Sponsored by:] _ The newest lyrics on the Net! http://lyrics.astraweb.com Click NOW!