Re: The Space Shuttle Must Be Stopped

2003-02-03 Thread Richard Baker
Erik said: Does money grow on trees in your parts, Rob? It doesn't in Washington (see link below). Where do you think all this money is going to come from? Given that Bush wants to increase the US military budget to USD500 billion per year, it must be readily available somewhere... Rich GCU

Test

2003-02-03 Thread G. D. Akin
Test. Sent several e-mails the other day -- did not receive one of them. George A ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: U-238 fusion?

2003-02-03 Thread Alberto Monteiro
U-238 _fusion_? This would be great for _cooling_ things! Alberto Monteiro ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: U-238 fusion?

2003-02-03 Thread Erik Reuter
On Sun, Feb 02, 2003 at 10:41:32PM -0600, Dan Minette wrote: The explanation for how it works is wrong. The slowing down of neutrons is a stochastic problem. Thus, varying the steam density would vary the number of neutrons and the energy distribution of those neutrons. It would not allow

Re: U-238 fusion?

2003-02-03 Thread Erik Reuter
Why did you change the subject to fusion? -- Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.erikreuter.net/ ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Test, was Re: Test

2003-02-03 Thread Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten
Me too. So far one lost and two returned. I'm not *really* _that_ controversial, am I? puzzled Sonja ;o) GCU: The eternal electronic huntingrounds loom before the fabric of my e-mails... G. D. Akin wrote: Test. Sent several e-mails the other day -- did not receive one of them. George

Re: Test, was Re: Test

2003-02-03 Thread Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten
Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten wrote: GCU: The eternal electronic huntingrounds loom before the fabric of my e-mails... I should have used a spell checker before I sent that one. Ouch... :o) That should have been 'hunting grounds' of course. Sonja

Re: Test, was Re: Test

2003-02-03 Thread Erik Reuter
On Mon, Feb 03, 2003 at 02:33:24PM +0100, Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten wrote: Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten wrote: GCU: The eternal electronic huntingrounds loom before the fabric of my e-mails... I should have used a spell checker before I sent that one. Ouch... :o) That should have

Re: U-238 fusion?

2003-02-03 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 6:55 AM Subject: Re: U-238 fusion? Why did you change the subject to fusion? Because it was late, and I meant fission. Alberto caught me on it. As far as changing it from

Re: The Space Shuttle Must Be Stopped

2003-02-03 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 3 Feb 2003 at 1:08, Damon wrote: Nevertheless, aerospace continues to make strides in propulsion, avionics, materials, and the design process itself. I would agree with this. One of the industries that pushes the envelope in terms of aircraft technology is obviously the military. 50

Re: The Axis of Weasel

2003-02-03 Thread kazaagold
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 1/30/2003 7:37:21 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Let's be really clear on this. French and German policy has consistently been to weaken any and all attempts to depose or weaken Saddam. Note that they insist that

Colin Powell

2003-02-03 Thread John D. Giorgis
TIME IS RUNNING OUT We Will Not Shrink From War Iraq has flouted the will of the world with its deceptions and empty claims. BY COLIN L. POWELL Monday, February 3, 2003 12:01 a.m. EST President Bush warned in his State of the Union address that the gravest danger facing America and the

Lousy reporting

2003-02-03 Thread Nick Arnett
Watching ABC this morning... their reporter, sitting in a shuttle simulator, called the heat buildup the re-entry burn, then described how the shuttle would have been doing S-turns to slow down. In fact, the was still well above the altitude where those S-turns would have started. I guess it's

Re: Test, was Re: Test

2003-02-03 Thread Jon Gabriel
From: Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Test, was Re: Test Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2003 14:24:15 +0100 Me too. So far one lost and two returned. I'm not *really* _that_ controversial, am I? puzzled Sonja ;o) GCU: The eternal

Scouted: Hunter Thompson interview

2003-02-03 Thread Jon Gabriel
Hunter Thompson was interviewed by Salon.com -- published today. Accessible to all. Jon Witch-King of Angmar?s suggestion to place pictures of Ruling Ring on milk cartons and wait for calls to come in was ignored. From: The Very Secret Diary of RingWraith No. 5 Intro Excerpt:

[SCOUTED] Spider Robinson on the Shuttle accident

2003-02-03 Thread Jean-Louis Couturier
In the Globe and Mail this morning : http://shorterlink.com/?RDUFJG Comet of grief and hope Saturday's terrible news reminded me and my wife of her near-rendezvous with the Challenger -- and why we believe that space voyaging must go on By SPIDER ROBINSON Monday, February 3, 2003 – Page A15

Re: The Axis of Weasel

2003-02-03 Thread Julia Thompson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 1/30/2003 7:37:21 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Let's be really clear on this. French and German policy has consistently been to weaken any and all attempts to depose or weaken Saddam.

Re: [SCOUTED] Spider Robinson on the Shuttle accident

2003-02-03 Thread Jon Gabriel
From: Jean-Louis Couturier [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SCOUTED] Spider Robinson on the Shuttle accident Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2003 10:57:20 -0500 In the Globe and Mail this morning : http://shorterlink.com/?RDUFJG Comet of grief and hope Saturday's terrible news reminded me and my wife of her

Re: The Axis of Weasel

2003-02-03 Thread Erik Reuter
On Fri, Jan 31, 2003 at 11:25:32PM -0500, Jean-Louis Couturier wrote: What if you compare the number with a country's GDP? Still #1 you think? People need food calories, not percentages of GDP. Ask a hungry person which is more important, what percentage of the GDP the food they were NOT

Re: Colin Powell

2003-02-03 Thread Erik Reuter
Not a bad statement of the situation, I thought. My only quibble: On Mon, Feb 03, 2003 at 10:29:31AM -0500, John D. Giorgis wrote: challenges. The fruits of our partnership are evident all around the globe, from Western Europe to Japan, Korea, Bosnia and Afghanistan.

RE: Lousy reporting

2003-02-03 Thread Miller, Jeffrey
-Original Message- From: Nick Arnett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 07:39 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Lousy reporting Watching ABC this morning... their reporter, sitting in a shuttle simulator, called the heat buildup the re-entry burn,

Re: Lousy reporting

2003-02-03 Thread Erik Reuter
On Mon, Feb 03, 2003 at 10:04:56AM -0800, Miller, Jeffrey wrote: I've been spoiled by the quality and timely reporting the web has brought me that I've forgotten how cruddy the 24hr news cycle shows are. No wonder Fox News is so ugly. Hmmm, I hadn't noticed because I almost never watch TV

RE: Lousy reporting

2003-02-03 Thread Nick Arnett
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Erik Reuter Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 10:03 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Lousy reporting On Mon, Feb 03, 2003 at 10:04:56AM -0800, Miller, Jeffrey wrote: I've been spoiled by the

Re: Best Dr. Who Actors

2003-02-03 Thread John Garcia
On Friday, January 31, 2003, at 03:31 PM, The Fool wrote: From: John Garcia [EMAIL PROTECTED] Since we're mentioning Dr. Who Which of the actors was your favorite? I like Jon Pertwee if for nothing else the looks he threw to the Brigadier when the doctor thought the Brigadier was being

RE: eBay \ Columbia shuttle feeding frenzy begins....

2003-02-03 Thread Horn, John
From: Gary L. Nunn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] But this one is my favorite. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=3205287911; category=1 3904 Not there anymore, apparently. What was it? Or shouldn't I ask... - jmh ___

RE: eBay \ Columbia shuttle feeding frenzy begins....

2003-02-03 Thread Miller, Jeffrey
-Original Message- From: Horn, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 10:40 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: eBay \ Columbia shuttle feeding frenzy begins From: Gary L. Nunn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] But this one is my favorite.

Re: Best Dr. Who Actors

2003-02-03 Thread The Fool
From: John Garcia [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Friday, January 31, 2003, at 03:31 PM, The Fool wrote: From: John Garcia [EMAIL PROTECTED] Since we're mentioning Dr. Who Which of the actors was your favorite? I like Jon Pertwee if for nothing else the looks he threw to the Brigadier

Re: Thanks for suggestions

2003-02-03 Thread Jean-Louis Couturier
At 08:34 2003-02-02 -0800, Nick wrote: Thanks, everyone, for all the book suggestions. Many were somewhat obvious (like the whole genre of cyberpunk) but the neurons weren't clicking. Nick I'd like to add one more suggestion. Jim Munroe's _Everyone in Silico_ is a great read, and is more

RE: eBay \ Columbia shuttle feeding frenzy begins....

2003-02-03 Thread Gary L. Nunn
Not there anymore, apparently. What was it? Or shouldn't I ask... - jmh Someone had created a fake auction and was using it to blast all of the vultures that were trying to profit from the accident. Also, there were a handful of people going in an bidding on Columbia items to outrageous

Cold weather and Poor fireplaces

2003-02-03 Thread Robert J. Chassell
According to Fernand Braudel, 308 years ago today, on 3 February 1695, the Palatine wrote: `At the king's table the wine and water froze in the glasses.' in the Hall of Mirrors at Versailles, France. This was the combined result of the little ice age and poorly designed fireplaces. [from

Re: The Axis of Weasel

2003-02-03 Thread Jean-Louis Couturier
At 12:42 2003-02-03 -0500, Erik wrote: On Fri, Jan 31, 2003 at 11:25:32PM -0500, Jean-Louis Couturier wrote: What if you compare the number with a country's GDP? Still #1 you think? People need food calories, not percentages of GDP. Ask a hungry person which is more important, what

Re: The Axis of Weasel

2003-02-03 Thread John D. Giorgis
At 02:35 PM 2/3/2003 -0500 Jean-Louis Couturier wrote: At 12:42 2003-02-03 -0500, Erik wrote: On Fri, Jan 31, 2003 at 11:25:32PM -0500, Jean-Louis Couturier wrote: What if you compare the number with a country's GDP? Still #1 you think? I was replying to the statement implying that since

Re: Colin Powell

2003-02-03 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 3 Feb 2003 at 10:29, John D. Giorgis wrote: TIME IS RUNNING OUT We Will Not Shrink From War Iraq has flouted the will of the world with its deceptions and empty claims. UK has said much the same. Andy Dawn Falcon ___

Scouted: Vatican: Harry Potter's OK with us

2003-02-03 Thread Gary L. Nunn
I am pleasantly surprised that the Vatican has such an open mind about this. Vatican: Harry Potter's OK with us VATICAN CITY (Reuters) --Harry Potter fans, relax. The Vatican says the kid is all right. The question of whether J.K. Rowling's books and the films on the boy wizard have a

RE: Colin Powell

2003-02-03 Thread Miller, Jeffrey
-Original Message- From: Andrew Crystall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 12:34 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Colin Powell On 3 Feb 2003 at 10:29, John D. Giorgis wrote: TIME IS RUNNING OUT We Will Not Shrink From War Iraq has

Re: Scouted: Vatican: Harry Potter's OK with us

2003-02-03 Thread Julia Thompson
Gary L. Nunn wrote: I am pleasantly surprised that the Vatican has such an open mind about this. Vatican: Harry Potter's OK with us I'm not that surprised. Now, if the Southern Baptists make such a statement, *that* would be more surprising. Julia

Interest article on shuttle tile damage from 1980

2003-02-03 Thread Miller, Jeffrey
http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/features/2001/8004.easterbrook-fulltext.html The external fuel tank, for instance, is full of oxygen and hydrogen cooled to -400ƒ F. to make the gases flow as liquids. Ice will form on the tank. When Columbia's tiles started popping off in a stiff breeze, it

Re: [SCOUTED] Spider Robinson on the Shuttle accident

2003-02-03 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 3 Feb 2003 at 10:57, Jean-Louis Couturier wrote: In the Globe and Mail this morning : http://shorterlink.com/?RDUFJG Comet of grief and hope Saturday's terrible news reminded me and my wife of her near-rendezvous with the Challenger -- and why we believe that space voyaging must go on

Re: Cold weather and Poor fireplaces

2003-02-03 Thread Robert J. Chassell
Robert J. Chassell wrote: According to Fernand Braudel, 308 years ago today, on 3 February 1695, `At the king's table the wine and water froze in the glasses.' Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] asks Which calendar were they using? When did France switch calendars? Being

Shuttle Update

2003-02-03 Thread Reggie Bautista
I'm posting this to the list because it includes some info I hadn't heard before. It might have been reported in television, but I've been avoiding most of that coverage. http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/space/02/03/sprj.colu.shuttle/index.html or http://makeashorterlink.com/?A29521453 NASA

Re: The Axis of Weasel

2003-02-03 Thread Jean-Louis Couturier
At 14:46 2003-02-03 -0500, John wrote: If you look at that total number, I think that you will see that the American people are quite generous when it comes to charitably supporting the rest of the world. JDG I'm not saying you're not generous. I'm saying you're not alone. I'm hearing more

Re: The Axis of Weasel

2003-02-03 Thread Gautam Mukunda
--- Jean-Louis Couturier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not saying you're not generous. I'm saying you're not alone. As I recall, you said something along the lines of generosity from the US was very rare since the end of the Cold War. One reason that we thought you were saying that is that I

Re: The Axis of Weasel

2003-02-03 Thread Erik Reuter
On Mon, Feb 03, 2003 at 02:47:03PM -0800, Gautam Mukunda wrote: As I recall, you said something along the lines of generosity from the US was very rare since the end of the Cold War. One reason that we thought you were saying that is that I think you kind of did. If I misremember your post,

Practice safe shuttle with a rubber.

2003-02-03 Thread Medievalbk
If the tiles are fragile on the way up, but not needed until the way down, why not keep them covered until needed. A front page newspaper story states that NASA is getting a lot of Armageddon type solutions. This is probably just one more William Taylor

Re: Lousy reporting

2003-02-03 Thread Deborah Harrell
--- Nick Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip I guess it's too much to hope that network reporters would actually study what they're reporting on. More correctly, perhaps, it's too much to hope that they'd be given the time to do so. Re: that last - shortened time in which to do a given

Re: Cold weather and Poor fireplaces

2003-02-03 Thread Deborah Harrell
--- Robert J. Chassell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: According to Fernand Braudel, 308 years ago today, on 3 February 1695, the Palatine wrote: `At the king's table the wine and water froze in the glasses.' in the Hall of Mirrors at Versailles, France. This was the combined result of

Re: Scouted: Vatican: Harry Potter's OK with us

2003-02-03 Thread Deborah Harrell
--- Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gary L. Nunn wrote: I am pleasantly surprised that the Vatican has such an open mind about this. Vatican: Harry Potter's OK with us I'm not that surprised. Now, if the Southern Baptists make such a statement, *that* would be more

Re: Cold weather and Poor fireplaces

2003-02-03 Thread Erik Reuter
On Mon, Feb 03, 2003 at 03:57:57PM -0800, Deborah Harrell wrote: Apparently the screen over the chimney is faulty, allowing a squirrel to fall/squirm in (I say the latter b/c that squirrel shoved through the doors even after I'd put a box of papers in front to brace them!). Bastards! I hate

Re: Photos show odd images near shuttle

2003-02-03 Thread Russell Chapman
David Hobby wrote: How does one produce negatives to match a picture created in Photoshop, anyway? : ) Take a photo of the monitor! ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Slightly unusual book suggestion request

2003-02-03 Thread Bemmzim
In a message dated 2/2/2003 11:24:30 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Interesting. I recall that Tesla intrigued me, but I can't quite remember the context. Something to do with creativity and innovation. Maybe Norbert Wiener. Well he was really the mad scientist come

Re: Slightly unusual book suggestion request

2003-02-03 Thread Bemmzim
In a message dated 2/2/2003 11:24:30 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Interesting. I recall that Tesla intrigued me, but I can't quite remember the context. Something to do with creativity and innovation. Maybe Norbert Wiener. Well he was really the mad scientist come

Re: Marriage Anneversaries(sic)

2003-02-03 Thread Bemmzim
In a message dated 2/2/2003 10:24:06 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Julia displays good spelling. Are you predicting the worst for her marriage? To every rule there is an exception. We have always known that Julia is exceptional

Re: Happy happy

2003-02-03 Thread Jim Sharkey
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Re: Pay no mind to reminders from test list

2003-02-03 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: Nick Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 9:08 PM Subject: Pay no mind to reminders from test list Some or all of the subscribers to Brin-l may receive two reminder messages about their list subscription. The extra

Re: The Axis of Weasel

2003-02-03 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: Gautam Mukunda [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 4:47 PM Subject: Re: The Axis of Weasel Having said all of that, I still think it's far better than 50/50 that France will sign up in Iraq before it's all over. If it

Re: The Axis of Weasel

2003-02-03 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: Jean-Louis Couturier [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 10:25 PM Subject: Re: The Axis of Weasel It seems to me that the many countries have been trying to set up rules that define what is unacceptable behavior for

RE: Pay no mind to reminders from test list

2003-02-03 Thread Jon Gabriel
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Dan Minette Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 10:28 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Pay no mind to reminders from test list - Original Message - From: Nick Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Death to Sysbath-Finorc!

2003-02-03 Thread Medievalbk
Jennifer is not playing fair. Rational thought is not a part of the NationStates. The police cameras and gun control issues were the last straw. The answers to the issues seem to be written so that you have to be a fool to not answer the way someone wants you to answer. Death to Big Sister.

Re: Pay no mind to reminders from test list

2003-02-03 Thread Medievalbk
Subject: Re: Pay no mind to reminders from test list If you don't mind, this is a non-miner post-minor's minor remedial reminder to remind you that I am paying no mind to the aforementioned reminder. Which, I believe, exists just on the left hand side of China. See what I mean? William

Re: The Space Shuttle Must Be Stopped

2003-02-03 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: Robert Seeberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 11:45 PM Subject: Re: The Space Shuttle Must Be Stopped IIRC the crystal experiments are a medical program and are partially funded by drug companies. Well, the drug

Re: The Space Shuttle Must Be Stopped

2003-02-03 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: Trent Shipley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 11:29 PM Subject: Re: The Space Shuttle Must Be Stopped Huh? No hard feelings, but that is no more accurate than stating that natural farming with horses is better for

Re: Practice safe shuttle with a rubber.

2003-02-03 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
At 06:10 PM 2/3/03 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If the tiles are fragile on the way up, but not needed until the way down, why not keep them covered until needed. A front page newspaper story states that NASA is getting a lot of Armageddon type solutions. This is probably just one more

Re: Cold weather and Poor fireplaces

2003-02-03 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
At 03:57 PM 2/3/03 -0800, Deborah Harrell wrote: --- Robert J. Chassell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: According to Fernand Braudel, 308 years ago today, on 3 February 1695, the Palatine wrote: `At the king's table the wine and water froze in the glasses.' in the Hall of Mirrors at

Re: The Space Shuttle Must Be Stopped

2003-02-03 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
At 10:29 PM 2/3/03 -0700, Trent Shipley wrote: No, no, no. Spend the money on *social science*, well some of it...a billion, half a billion. Do you know how much basic economics and sociology you can do with 250 million dollars? Just think of how much less we would need to spend on police

Re: Cold weather and Poor fireplaces

2003-02-03 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
At 02:27 PM 2/3/03 -0500, Robert J. Chassell wrote: According to Fernand Braudel, 308 years ago today, on 3 February 1695, the Palatine wrote: `At the king's table the wine and water froze in the glasses.' in the Hall of Mirrors at Versailles, France. This was the combined result of the