I wrote
However, a base 12 counting system would have been much better ...
and Bryon Daly [EMAIL PROTECTED] asked
Why base 12? Why not base 16, and then we'd at least benefit from
easy conversion to/from binary?
Because base 12 can be divided by both 2 and 3 (and by 4 and 6) but
On Wed, Mar 03, 2004 at 09:35:55AM -0600, Dan Minette wrote:
From: Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
average
unemployment
rate
years %
==
2001-2004 5.3
1997-2000 4.5
1993-1996 6.3
1989-1992 6.1
1985-1988 6.6
1981-1984 8.6
From: Travis Edmunds [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
boring). You want a good guitarist, with good mechanics, that's
not
flashy/trashy, and just may have an exceptional ear? Mark
Knopfler.
How about Nils Lofgren? From what I've heard he's the guitarists
pick for best guitarist. He's been around
Well, a little better. Depending how you count, you can
argue that 12 has more factors than 10. This must be worth
something, since I don't hear anyone pushing for prime bases such
as 11. Agreed, it's not a big deal. It might be more to make a
number base feel comfortable
From: Robert Seeberger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Haiku
Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2004 17:39:52 -0600
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From: Travis Edmunds [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday,
From: Robert Seeberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
SNIP
This needs to be submitted to rec.humor.funny or something. These
are great!
I'm so totally going to steal them... grin
- jmh
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I cant reply to this.. 'cause no one likes me L
Nick no likes me Lidster
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From: Travis Edmunds [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 10:32 AM
Subject: Re: Haiku
From: Robert Seeberger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Killer Bs
Also, if you look at the tips of your fingers and those knuckles
closest to the tips, you will see 12 of them on one hand -- so it is
Robert J. Chassell Rattlesnake Enterprises
http://www.rattlesnake.com GnuPG Key ID: 004B4AC8
As far as I know, Gautam's and Dan's discussions of the US Civil War
are correct:
* The Fugitive Slave Act was an imposition on states' rights. It
meant a change from the previous, more or less `live and let live'
tolerance policy to a Federally imposed `you will help us kidnap
Gautam Mukunda asks
... was Southern defeat inevitable? I would actually say, in
retrospect, that it's actually fairly improbable.
This is a nice question. The early 1860s were the first period in
which the North had the economic power to fund a civil war and win.
But it just barely
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], ritu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
'Tis just that I can't see *how* India is supposed to be blamed
for this
and thus, I will ask when someone says that in front of me.
The logic is that americans workers tax dollors, hard work building
american corporations, and the
I think it was the babylonians who first used base 60, which is how we got
hours, minutes and seconds, as well as the 360 points on a compass. Its
worked pretty well so far.
I found this on a web site as a possible reason for base 60.
Here is one way that it could have happened. One can count up
David Hobby wrote:
However, a base 12 counting system would have been much better;
No, it wouldn't
Well, a little better.
A little worse.
Depending how you count, you can
argue that 12 has more factors than 10. This must be worth
something, since I don't hear anyone pushing for
On Thu, Mar 04, 2004 at 11:10:04AM -0500, Robert J. Chassell wrote:
Does anyone know of long run British figures brought up to date and
more likely to be accurate? Is my thesis reasonable? As for an
explanation: Britain did not grow faster because people first had to
invent the
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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From: Jan Coffey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2004 5:52 PM
To: Killer Bs Discussion
Subject: Re: Race to the Bottom
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Kevin Tarr [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: David Hobby [EMAIL PROTECTED]
There are two kinds of divisibility tests. They aren't
usually given names, but let's call them ending tests and
sum of digits tests. Working base 10, there are ending
tests for 2,4,8,... and 5,25,... as well as for their products.
(Let's ignore
David Hobby wrote:
Well, a little better. Depending how you count, you can
argue that 12 has more factors than 10. This must be worth
something, since I don't hear anyone pushing for prime bases such
as 11. Agreed, it's not a big deal. It might be more to make a
number
Horn, John wrote:
From: Travis Edmunds [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
boring). You want a good guitarist, with good mechanics, that's
not
flashy/trashy, and just may have an exceptional ear? Mark
Knopfler.
How about Nils Lofgren? From what I've heard he's the guitarists
pick for best
Horn, John wrote:
From: Dan Minette [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
In Texas, school children are required to either say the pledge of
allegiance to Texas or to stand respectfully while others do.
There's a pledge of allegiance to Texas? The state? Weird. Just
when you think you've
Nick Lidster wrote:
Also, if you look at the tips of your fingers and those knuckles
closest to the tips, you will see 12 of them on one hand -- so it is
Robert J. Chassell Rattlesnake Enterprises
http://www.rattlesnake.com GnuPG Key ID:
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From: Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 1:40 PM
Subject: Re: Stirling engine queries
Describe how to count up to 1023 on 10 fingers. :)
I'm not sure that regestered with me. :-)
Dan M.
I have not seen any mention of the North's concern about the White Slave.
Since slavery was defined as a racial thing, and people born to slaves
inherited being a slave, the possiblity existed of a slave being born that
was mostly white, but a slave since their mother was a slave. It would only
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have not seen any mention of the North's concern
about the White Slave.
Since slavery was defined as a racial thing, and
people born to slaves
inherited being a slave, the possiblity existed of a
slave being born that
was mostly white, but a slave since their
--- The Fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
http://www.glocom.org/opinions/essays/20040301_tsurumi_president/
President George Bush and the Gilded Age
Yoshi Tsurumi (Professor of International Business,
Baruch College, the City University of New York )
most snipped
At Harvard Business School,
From Russell C.:
Thankyou Michael for the profanity - big help from someone who has made
such demands about the way we treat him onlist in the past...
You are right, I am an unreasonable person, I've been so demanding. By the
by I've only made requests, not demands, but I'm sure you see
Feel the HATE flowing from GOP republiKKKlans:
http://www.ktok.com/cc-common/feeds/view.php?feed_id=135feed=/local.htm
linstance=1article_id=1559
Cole Claims a Vote Against Bush Is a Vote For Hitler
Wednesday, March 3, 2004 at 9:04pm
Republican Congressman Tom Cole claims a vote against the
Are you any safer because of this incompetence?
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4431601/
Avoiding attacking suspected terrorist mastermind
Abu Musab Zarqawi blamed for more than 700 killings in Iraq
By Jim Miklaszewski
Correspondent
NBC News
Updated: 7:14 p.m. ET March 02, 2004
With Tuesday's
Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
Base 10 has a minor advantage in divisibility tests that I don't
think you get with any other possible base between 5 and 17. And
unlike 5 and 17, it's not prime.
What are the tests and the advantage? I don't know anything about
this. Perhaps
... but can someone please count to 12 using the tips and top
knuckels of one hand, 'cause i only get 10.
I count 12:
Looking at my left hand, palm towards my eyes, with my fingers curled
over, I see the four tips of my fingers and four of the knuckles
closest to my finger tips and four
Alberto Monteiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
The problem with base 12 is that it has _2_ twice and _3_ once
when you factor it, so that the practical man rules to check if
a number is divisible by another would get a higher degree of
confusion.
Ah, I see your point. However, I
Russell wrote:
Out of curiosity, and without wanting to get into the whole is it good/is it bad/is it fair thing:
What is it that the people who complain about off-shoring want done about it.
I see this proposal has been submitted to the house:
*
The proposed Defending American Jobs
Julia, et al,
Describe how to count up to 1023 on 10 fingers. :)
That's easy to describe, but a whole lot more difficult to use :-).
I remember seeing Doug Engelbart (inventor of the computer mouse, etc)
http://tinyurl.com/9km7 using a one-handed chorded keyboard
http://tinyurl.com/3ajld that
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], The Fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Feel the HATE flowing from GOP republiKKKlans:
http://www.ktok.com/cc-common/feeds/view.php?
feed_id=135feed=/local.htm
linstance=1article_id=1559
Cole Claims a Vote Against Bush Is a Vote For Hitler
Wednesday, March 3, 2004 at
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Russell Chapman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Russell wrote:
Out of curiosity, and without wanting to get into the whole is it
good/is it bad/is it fair thing:
What is it that the people who complain about off-shoring want
done about it.
I see this proposal has
--- Robert J. Chassell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
The famous phrase is that the Northern government
was going to give former slaves
`40 acres and a mule'.
On the one hand, it may have been impossible for the
North to provide
mules, on account there not being enough of them (I
don't
- Original Message -
From: Robert J. Chassell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 6:38 PM
Subject: Re: Bases, was Re: Stirling engine queries
... but can someone please count to 12 using the tips and top
knuckels of one hand, 'cause i only
--- Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
In Texas, school children are required to either say
the pledge of
allegence to Texas or to stand respectfully while
others do. Ted says the
US pledge of allegence, because he feels comfortable
doing so. He's not
against Texas, but he and I
From: Nick Lidster [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
I cant reply to this.. 'cause no one likes me L
Nick no likes me Lidster
I don't see that stopping anyone else posting.
Go on, give it a go, it can't get any worse can it?
Subject: RE: Haiku
xponent
No Seasons Maru
- Original Message -
From: Horn, John [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 6:41 AM
Subject: RE: Pledge of Allegiance
From: Dan Minette [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
In Texas, school children are required to either say the pledge of
--- Robert J. Chassell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snippage
Also, if you look at the tips of your fingers and
those knuckles closest to the tips, you will see 12
of them on one hand -- so it is easy to count on your
fingers. While programmers never count on their
fingers, over the past millennia,
- Original Message -
From: David Hobby [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 7:38 AM
Subject: Re: Bases, was Re: Stirling engine queries
Well, a little better. Depending how you count, you can
argue that 12 has more
- Original Message -
From: Horn, John [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 8:18 AM
Subject: RE: Haiku
From: Robert Seeberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
SNIP
This needs to be submitted to rec.humor.funny or something. These
are
- Original Message -
From: Nick Lidster [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 9:05 AM
Subject: Re: Haiku
I cant reply to this.. 'cause no one likes me L
Nick no likes me Lidster
Why do you say that?
Or am I missing
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From: Andrew Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 5:24 PM
Subject: RE: Haiku
xponent
No Seasons Maru
rob
Good work by the way Bob,
although I did note your lack of seasons,
(apart from
On Thu, Mar 04, 2004 at 01:40:47PM -0600, Julia Thompson wrote:
Describe how to count up to 1023 on 10 fingers. :)
132 to you!
--
Erik Reuter http://www.erikreuter.net/
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At 06:46 PM 3/4/2004, you wrote:
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From: Horn, John [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 6:41 AM
Subject: RE: Pledge of Allegiance
From: Dan Minette [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
In Texas, school children are
I can do it to 1024.. but to 1023 i have no idea
I stand on the threshold of tommorow, atop the stairway of yesterday,
holding the key to today, staring through the door into the future.
-Nick Lidster
26 May 2003
http://capelites.no-ip.com
- Original Message
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Describe how to count up to 1023 on 10 fingers. :)
My wife and I (both CS) use this method exclusivly. I think I have
even posted this here before.
Anyway, one day we went to the grocer on our way for a long road
trip.
On 5 Mar 2004, at 1:03 am, Nick Lidster wrote:
I can do it to 1024.. but to 1023 i have no idea
Your fingers must have had a fencepost accident :)
--
William T Goodall
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It is our belief, however,
Nick,
I can do it to 1024.. but to 1023 i have no idea
Zero counts, but for nothing.
I stand on the threshold of tommorow, atop the stairway of yesterday,
holding the key to today, staring through the door into the future.
Bully for you. As for me, I generally stumble up the stairway of my lost
- Original Message -
From: Kevin Tarr [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 7:02 PM
Subject: Re: Pledge of Allegiance
At 06:46 PM 3/4/2004, you wrote:
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From: Horn, John [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer
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From: Robert Seeberger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 5:46 PM
Subject: Re: Pledge of Allegiance
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From: Horn, John [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL
Jan,
Anyway, one day we went to the grocer on our way for a long road
trip...
Great story. It reminded me of the Gangs Kill Sign Language Users
urban legend that http://tinyurl.com/2a8vf. So be careful: you and
your wife could end up dead, or worse -- an urban legend!
I like to use this now
- Original Message -
From: William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 10:01 PM
Subject: Re: Stirling engine queries
On 5 Mar 2004, at 1:03 am, Nick Lidster wrote:
I can do it to 1024.. but to 1023 i have no idea
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2cid=528u=/ap/20040304/ap_on_hi_te/internet_sales_tax_7printer=1
Remember all those gifts you bought online during the holidays? Now
it's time to pay sales tax on them, at least so say the income tax
forms of 20 states.
The latest to outstretch that revenue
so it should be 123?...man what a long day, first teh federation
declears war on me and now this... lol... if only i could beat the Kobayashi
Maru
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Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 10:01 PM
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Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 7:54 PM
Subject: Re: Pledge of Allegiance
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To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL
I'm not pledging allegiance to anyone's ass. And who is Tex?
--
William T Goodall
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It is our belief, however, that serious professional users will run
out of things they can do with UNIX. - Ken
From: Robert Seeberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
When I decided to write those, I went to look at a few Haiku
websites and noted that the experts bent the rules whenever
they felt like it. Not just the seasons but the number of
syllables too. Golly gee whilikers I thought. I can ignore
William T Goodall wrote:
I'm not pledging allegiance to anyone's ass. And who is Tex?
Picture at http://www.texastwisted.com/attr/bigtex/
:)
Julia
alternate answer: anyone you can sarcastically say nice shooting to
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Jan Coffey wrote:
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Describe how to count up to 1023 on 10 fingers. :)
My wife and I (both CS) use this method exclusivly. I think I have
even posted this here before.
Anyway, one day we went to the grocer on our way
Erik Reuter wrote:
On Thu, Mar 04, 2004 at 01:40:47PM -0600, Julia Thompson wrote:
Describe how to count up to 1023 on 10 fingers. :)
132 to you!
Erik! I didn't know you cared!
Julia
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On Thu, Mar 04, 2004 at 09:26:00PM -0600, Julia Thompson wrote:
Erik Reuter wrote:
On Thu, Mar 04, 2004 at 01:40:47PM -0600, Julia Thompson wrote:
Describe how to count up to 1023 on 10 fingers. :)
132 to you!
Erik! I didn't know you cared!
Wouldn't that be 9 (thumbs in) or 18
Dave Land wrote:
Julia, et al,
Describe how to count up to 1023 on 10 fingers. :)
That's easy to describe, but a whole lot more difficult to use :-).
I remember seeing Doug Engelbart (inventor of the computer mouse, etc)
http://tinyurl.com/9km7 using a one-handed chorded keyboard
- Original Message -
From: Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 9:26 PM
Subject: Re: Stirling engine queries
Erik Reuter wrote:
On Thu, Mar 04, 2004 at 01:40:47PM -0600, Julia Thompson wrote:
Describe how
Robert J. Chassell wrote:
Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
Base 10 has a minor advantage in divisibility tests that I don't
think you get with any other possible base between 5 and 17. And
unlike 5 and 17, it's not prime.
What are the tests and the advantage? I don't
At 08:48 PM 3/4/2004, you wrote:
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2cid=528u=/ap/20040304/ap_on_hi_te/internet_sales_tax_7printer=1
snip
Forty-five states require buyers to pay sales taxes on Internet and
other out-of-state purchases, though a few, including California and
Minnesota, exempt
Kevin Tarr wrote:
The debate here is to lower the sales tax from 6 to 4%, but tax everything.
Currently uncooked food and clothes are exempt. The hue and cry of course
is that this will unfairly target the poor. But most studies show that
overall the consumer will see lower taxes and with a
At 03:57 PM 3/4/2004 -0600 The Fool wrote:
Are you any safer because of this incompetence?
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4431601/
It is positive to see that The Fool's opposition to the War in Iraq is now
based on the fact that we did not attack Iraq soon enough.
Glad to see that you are on
From: John D. Giorgis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
At 03:57 PM 3/4/2004 -0600 The Fool wrote:
Are you any safer because of this incompetence?
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4431601/
It is positive to see that The Fool's opposition to the War in Iraq is
now
based on the fact that we did not attack
Jan Coffey wrote:
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], ritu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
'Tis just that I can't see *how* India is supposed to be blamed
for this
and thus, I will ask when someone says that in front of me.
The logic is that americans workers tax dollors, hard work building
Kevin wrote-
The American developers here are probably the most unsocial people
in IT.
Jan wrote-
This may be the case, but I do not believe you are correct when you
say unsocial, maybe just social in a different way than many who
studied Business instead of Computer Science. But do you
Jan wrote-
I wonder what would happen if we started outsourcing the project
management, the accounting and the administration, Indian doctors are
cheaper, Indian Drugs, Indian lawyers I bet there would be quite a
number laws made quite quickly to keep this from happeningoh wait,
there already
John wrote-
Fine then. Like Tom said, I am just going to have to accept that Brin-L
is what it is. I will accept the fact that in the minds of plenty of the
Left-Wingers around here it is impossible to be right-wing and have
respectability and credibility. That's just how it is then, and I
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