Re: Race to the Bottom

2004-03-11 Thread Jan Coffey
Ritu, I almost let this thread die, or go on without me, but I decided that I would answer. --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], ritu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, I am not forgetting any such thing. Nor have I heard anybody ever claim that these companies were Indian or that they exist for the good of

Re: Race to the Bottom

2004-03-11 Thread Richard Baker
Jan said: There is ownership and then their is ownership. The point is that it has been our hard work, our society, our national decisions, and our commitment that has fostered these companies and allowed them to exist. As with every system there is trade offs. Our society has both good

Re: Do as I say, not as I do Democrats

2004-03-11 Thread Kevin Tarr
At 02:06 AM 3/11/2004, you wrote: Kevin Tarr wrote: http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/valleyindependent/news/s_183239.html State lawmaker accused of drunken driving Friday, March 05, 2004 By Ed Blazina, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette State Rep. David Levdansky, D-Forward, is scheduled for a

RE: Race to the Bottom

2004-03-11 Thread ritu
Jan wrote: Ritu, I almost let this thread die, or go on without me, but I decided that I would answer. Like you, I debated answering this mail, then I wondered where to start and then the answer was just so very obvious. I don't know if I would ever get around to answering some of the points

Re: Paul Winfield, RIP

2004-03-11 Thread Tom Beck
Did you know there's a Tenagra Observatory whose name is based on the episode? http://www.tenagraobservatories.com/Who%20are%20we.htm There's also a Darmok Dictionary at http://www.chaparraltree.com/sflang/darmok.shtml.

RE: Race to the Bottom

2004-03-11 Thread Richard Baker
Ritu said: I live in India. I was born here and have lived here ever since. I am curious - what made you assume otherwise? You mean... they have the Internet in India? Next you'll be telling me they have it in England! Or France! Rich ___

RE: Race to the Bottom

2004-03-11 Thread ritu
Rich wrote: Ritu said: I live in India. I was born here and have lived here ever since. I am curious - what made you assume otherwise? You mean... they have the Internet in India? Next you'll be telling me they have it in England! Or France! *g* Oh, that nothing! I'll be *really*

Re: Race to the Bottom

2004-03-11 Thread Erik Reuter
On Thu, Mar 11, 2004 at 05:29:24PM +0530, ritu wrote: I'll be *really* heretical and repeat something Gord told me: apparently South Korea has better internet connectivity and speed than even the North American Continent... Why is that heretical? I would think it would be obvious, considering

Re: Race to the Bottom

2004-03-11 Thread Erik Reuter
On Thu, Mar 11, 2004 at 02:01:39AM -0800, Richard Baker wrote: Are you sure that's why companies get tax breaks? I would've thought it would be much more sensible to give companies tax breaks because it will encourage economic growth and give Americans a better standard of living. Yes, of

RE: Race to the Bottom

2004-03-11 Thread ritu
Erik Reuter wrote: I'll be *really* heretical and repeat something Gord told me: apparently South Korea has better internet connectivity and speed than even the North American Continent... Why is that heretical? I would think it would be obvious, considering the population density.

RE: Race to the Bottom

2004-03-11 Thread Gautam Mukunda
--- ritu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Erik Reuter wrote: I'll be *really* heretical and repeat something Gord told me: apparently South Korea has better internet connectivity and speed than even the North American Continent... Why is that heretical? I would think it would be

Re: Race to the Bottom

2004-03-11 Thread Erik Reuter
On Thu, Mar 11, 2004 at 06:10:55PM +0530, ritu wrote: I found the information surprising though and although the population density bit looks obvious now, it still hasn't worked out quite that way here yet. Yes, there are other factors as well. But for GDP/capita's in the same ballpark,

Re: Br!n: Key Human-Brain Gene Found

2004-03-11 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Julia Thompson wrote: I was thinking more along the lines of Pinky and The Brain. /me too. I guess that's because of the noise we have at home :-) Alberto Monteiro ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Br!n: Key Human-Brain Gene Found

2004-03-11 Thread Julia Thompson
Trent Shipley wrote: On Wednesday 2004-03-10 21:53, Julia Thompson wrote: The Fool wrote: From: Davd Brin [EMAIL PROTECTED] I recall from last year another gene that they discovered that caused mice brains to become highly folded (like a human brain) instead of being 'flat'.

Re: Do as I say, not as I do Democrats

2004-03-11 Thread Matt Grimaldi
Kevin Tarr wrote: At 02:06 AM 3/11/2004, you wrote: Kevin Tarr wrote: http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/valleyindependent/news/s_183239.html State lawmaker accused of drunken driving Friday, March 05, 2004 By Ed Blazina, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette State Rep. David

RE: I think I almost died last night

2004-03-11 Thread Horn, John
From: Kevin Tarr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I'll admit that I never had that particular symptom of GERD. But I would wake up in the middle of the night and think that someone was trying to pick me up with an old-time ice block grabber-thingie. I had tests to see if I could have that

Re: Br!n: Key Human-Brain Gene Found

2004-03-11 Thread Steve Sloan II
Trent Shipley wrote: The Rats of NiMH? That's the one I was thinking about. It had fantasy elements -- the non-enhanced animals could talk, too. I'm wondering if anyone has ever written a hard science fiction version of the same premise, of enhanced rats escaping, then trying to form their own

Re: Do as I say, not as I do Democrats

2004-03-11 Thread Jon Gabriel
From: Matt Grimaldi [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Do as I say, not as I do Democrats Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 07:55:21 -0800 Kevin Tarr wrote: At 02:06 AM 3/11/2004, you wrote: Kevin Tarr wrote:

Re: Race to the Bottom

2004-03-11 Thread Jan Coffey
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], ritu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jan wrote: Ritu, I almost let this thread die, or go on without me, but I decided that I would answer. Like you, I debated answering this mail, then I wondered where to start and then the answer was just so very obvious. I don't

Re: Race to the Bottom

2004-03-11 Thread Jon Gabriel
From: Jan Coffey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Race to the Bottom Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 17:44:10 - --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], ritu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jan wrote: Ritu, I almost let this thread

Re: Race to the Bottom

2004-03-11 Thread Jon Gabriel
From: Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Race to the Bottom Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 07:33:07 -0500 On Thu, Mar 11, 2004 at 05:29:24PM +0530, ritu wrote: I'll be *really* heretical and repeat

Re: Race to the Bottom

2004-03-11 Thread Jon Gabriel
From: Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Race to the Bottom Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 08:05:51 -0500 On Thu, Mar 11, 2004 at 06:10:55PM +0530, ritu wrote: I found the information surprising though

RE: Race to the Bottom

2004-03-11 Thread Lalith Vipulananthan
Jan wrote: My best friend is Indian and holds an Indian passport, I'm curious about this friend of yours. A few questions: does he work in IT as well? Is he getting paid much less than a typical American, and if so, is he directly employed by a US company or he is being hired out from India as

Re: Do as I say, not as I do Democrats

2004-03-11 Thread Julia Thompson
Kevin Tarr wrote: Some people on this list consider drunk driving to be a horrible crime that isn't punished harshly enough. (I'm not one of them.) At least he wasn't caught legally gambling, the republicans would really howl over that! IMO, it isn't punished harshly enough when it leads to

Re: Race to the Bottom

2004-03-11 Thread Jan Coffey
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Gautam Mukunda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- ritu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Erik Reuter wrote: I'll be *really* heretical and repeat something Gord told me: apparently South Korea has better internet connectivity and speed than even the North

Re: Race to the Bottom

2004-03-11 Thread Julia Thompson
Jan Coffey wrote: --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], ritu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I live in India. I was born here and have lived here ever since. I am curious - what made you assume otherwise? Quite honestly, you talke as if you are here, and have a right to have an opinion about ~parts~ of

Re: Race to the Bottom

2004-03-11 Thread Gautam Mukunda
--- Jan Coffey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry, but your numbers I believe are wrong. It is 1 in 6 jobs that are going to India, that's not 1 in 6 tech jobs, it's 1 in 6 jobs. Jan, think about what you're saying here. There are ~100 million jobs in the United States. 1 in 6 would mean more

Re: Gas Prices

2004-03-11 Thread Deborah Harrell
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ; I live 45 minutes from the office and 30 minutes from the stable; I have always tried to plan things like grocery shopping etc. to be 'on the way home.' Ouch! What type of books-on-tape do you listen to? None; I crank up the CD

Re: Race to the Bottom

2004-03-11 Thread Richard Baker
Gautam said: Let me suggest an analogy. Someone invents a gadget - a new computer program, let's say - that allows us to replace computer programmers with this program. Would you argue that the government should stop us from using that program? If yes, why? If no, then, how is

Emulation (was: Federal Marriage Amendment)

2004-03-11 Thread Deborah Harrell
Robert J. Chassell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: most snipped Rather than talk about the human morality of killing humans, I am curious how many on this list think that it is morally good to emulate a `higher being'? That depends on whether the 'higher being' _is_ morally goodMost of the

Re: Do as I say, not as I do Democrats

2004-03-11 Thread Kevin Tarr
An interesting editorial from salon.com details the VRWC's latest attacks on Kerry. I guess Republicans are now seeing him as a serious threat. Editorial is here: http://www.salon.com/opinion/conason/2004/03/09/conspiracy/index.html. Jon So Republicans shouldn't consider the Democratic nominee

Re: Brin: Key Human-Brain Gene Found

2004-03-11 Thread Bemmzim
In a message dated 3/10/2004 8:53:27 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Heh. I had heard of this. My best guess is that simply pumping up that gene leads to more neurons, and that a species without OTHER adaptation will simply suffer from severe internal skull squeeze. It

RE: Gas Prices

2004-03-11 Thread ChadCooper
-Original Message- From: John D. Giorgis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2004 2:13 PM To: Killer Bs Discussion Subject: Re: Gas Prices At 01:54 PM 3/7/2004 -0800 Damon Agretto wrote: You also have to consider the cost-of-living factor. I know, FREX, that

Re: LIBERAL TALKRADIO NETWORK TO LAUNCH MARCH 31

2004-03-11 Thread Bemmzim
In a message dated 3/10/2004 10:27:42 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: No, you'd be honest about it if you admitted that you already had one - it's called NPR - paid for with my tax dollars. If you want to waste _your_ money on such a thing, be my guest. There is a

Re: LIBERAL TALKRADIO NETWORK TO LAUNCH MARCH 31

2004-03-11 Thread Bemmzim
In a message dated 3/10/2004 11:58:49 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think the time is ripe, actually. I'll be checking it out... They need to have entertaining personalities. Frankin will succeed and if they can find a few more like him it will fly. Of course if

Re: America, land of the Ashcroft-haters

2004-03-11 Thread Bemmzim
In a message dated 3/10/2004 11:04:56 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Why, is he defending cowards again? OSL. Get off it. He never defended the cowards. He pointed out in his iconclastic way that calling the 911 terrorists cowards was inaccurate. He did not call them

Re: LIBERAL TALKRADIO NETWORK TO LAUNCH MARCH 31

2004-03-11 Thread Bemmzim
In a message dated 3/10/2004 11:58:49 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think the time is ripe, actually. I'll be checking it out... They need to have entertaining personalities. Frankin will succeed and if they can find a few more like him it will fly. Of course if

Re: Do as I say, not as I do Democrats

2004-03-11 Thread Bemmzim
In a message dated 3/11/2004 6:21:20 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: For a law maker to break any law should be enough for him to be removed from office. Maybe he'll go for the democrat daily double and lie under oath. Uh - you are kidding right? Any law? Drunk driving

Re: Abstinence-Only Driving School

2004-03-11 Thread Deborah Harrell
The Fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.pandagon.net/mtarchives/001260.html An anology that explains why Abstinence-Only education is so very wrong. The abstract isn't available in PubMed, but here is the title of one comment on this approach: Why we should just say no to exclusive

Re: Race to the Bottom

2004-03-11 Thread Julia Thompson
Richard Baker wrote: Gautam said: Let me suggest an analogy. Someone invents a gadget - a new computer program, let's say - that allows us to replace computer programmers with this program. Would you argue that the government should stop us from using that program? If yes, why?

Re: Do as I say, not as I do Democrats

2004-03-11 Thread Jon Gabriel
From: Kevin Tarr [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Do as I say, not as I do Democrats Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 17:08:56 -0500 An interesting editorial from salon.com details the VRWC's latest attacks on Kerry.

Red Dwarf predicted this 20 years ago (almost)

2004-03-11 Thread Tom Beck
Still, it's scary (reminds me of the parody of Joyce Kilmer's Trees: I think that I shall never see/A billboard lovely as a tree/Indeed, unless the billboards fall/I'll never see a tree at all). http://www.cnn.com/2004/TECH/space/03/11/russia.space.ap/index.html MOSCOW, Russia (AP) -- Orion,

Re: America, land of the Ashcroft-haters

2004-03-11 Thread Gautam Mukunda
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 3/10/2004 11:04:56 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Why, is he defending cowards again? OSL. Get off it. He never defended the cowards. He pointed out in his iconclastic way that calling the 911 terrorists cowards was

Re: Race to the Bottom

2004-03-11 Thread Gautam Mukunda
--- Richard Baker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gautam said: Let me suggest an analogy. Someone invents a gadget - a new computer program, let's say - that allows us to replace computer programmers with this program. Would you argue that the government should stop us from using that

Re: LIBERAL TALKRADIO NETWORK TO LAUNCH MARCH 31

2004-03-11 Thread Gautam Mukunda
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 3/10/2004 10:27:42 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: No, you'd be honest about it if you admitted that you already had one - it's called NPR - paid for with my tax dollars. If you want to waste _your_ money on such a

RE: Gas Prices

2004-03-11 Thread Damon Agretto
Is this the same in NJ? It translates to about an extra 10 cents per gallon. We are paying about 1.80-1.90 pg Traditionally gas in NJ is cheaper than gas in PA. I don't know what the prices are now though, since I don't work in Jersey and have NO reason to go there (except to go to the

Re: LIBERAL TALKRADIO NETWORK TO LAUNCH MARCH 31

2004-03-11 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: Gautam Mukunda [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 5:18 PM Subject: Re: LIBERAL TALKRADIO NETWORK TO LAUNCH MARCH 31 --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 3/10/2004 10:27:42 PM Eastern

Re: LIBERAL TALKRADIO NETWORK TO LAUNCH MARCH 31

2004-03-11 Thread Gautam Mukunda
--- Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What percentage of NPR funding do you think is from tax money? And, is it overall funding going right to the general budget, or specific grants for specific features? Dan M. I believe that it goes to the general fund, but it doesn't really matter

Re: LIBERAL TALKRADIO NETWORK TO LAUNCH MARCH 31

2004-03-11 Thread Gautam Mukunda
--- Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What percentage of NPR funding do you think is from tax money? And, is it overall funding going right to the general budget, or specific grants for specific features? Dan M. I believe that it goes to the general fund, but it doesn't really matter

Re: LIBERAL TALKRADIO NETWORK TO LAUNCH MARCH 31

2004-03-11 Thread Tom Beck
I believe that it goes to the general fund, but it doesn't really matter to me. Nor does the percentage matter (I believe it's around 40%, but say that with no confidence). It's the principal of the thing. The fact that _my tax dollars_ go to fund leftist propaganda is an outrage. It's coerced

Re: LIBERAL TALKRADIO NETWORK TO LAUNCH MARCH 31

2004-03-11 Thread Gautam Mukunda
--- Tom Beck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And NPR is hardly leftist propaganda. Most of it is completely unobjectionable, and the rest is leftist only to extreme right-wingers. NPR is actually quite moderate, for the most part. Someone who thinks the average American is an idiot is perhaps

Re: LIBERAL TALKRADIO NETWORK TO LAUNCH MARCH 31

2004-03-11 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: Gautam Mukunda [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 6:04 PM Subject: Re: LIBERAL TALKRADIO NETWORK TO LAUNCH MARCH 31 --- Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What percentage of NPR funding do you

Re: LIBERAL TALKRADIO NETWORK TO LAUNCH MARCH 31

2004-03-11 Thread Jon Gabriel
From: Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: LIBERAL TALKRADIO NETWORK TO LAUNCH MARCH 31 Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 17:49:46 -0600 - Original Message - From: Gautam Mukunda [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:

Re: LIBERAL TALKRADIO NETWORK TO LAUNCH MARCH 31

2004-03-11 Thread Dan Minette
Coerced speech is a violation of the most fundamental principles of the United States. It is ironic and revelatory that people who think preventing flag burning is an atrocity are fine with NPR. So, are you saying that any entity that gets government money for any reason whatsoever is

Re: LIBERAL TALKRADIO NETWORK TO LAUNCH MARCH 31

2004-03-11 Thread Gautam Mukunda
--- Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, unless they deliberately lie it's 2%. The only direct government funding NPR receives is through competitive grants from government agencies for specific projects. Such grants are awarded by the Corporation for Public Broadcasting, the

Re: Brin: Key Human-Brain Gene Found

2004-03-11 Thread Davd Brin
In fact during development there is extensive neuronal die off (neurons compete for various connections and when they don't get them they are supposed to die). For a description of this that PREDATES the science, see an obscure novel called Earth ;-) = . . * Please note. My email

Re: Race to the Bottom

2004-03-11 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: ritu [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Killer Bs Discussion' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 5:33 AM Subject: RE: Race to the Bottom Jan wrote: Then move back to India, or act like a guest while you are here. You don't get to come here and have

Re: LIBERAL TALKRADIO NETWORK TO LAUNCH MARCH 31

2004-03-11 Thread Gautam Mukunda
--- Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Coerced speech is a violation of the most fundamental principles of the United States. It is ironic and revelatory that people who think preventing flag burning is an atrocity are fine with NPR. So, are you saying that any entity that gets

Re: LIBERAL TALKRADIO NETWORK TO LAUNCH MARCH 31

2004-03-11 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: Gautam Mukunda [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 6:39 PM Subject: Re: LIBERAL TALKRADIO NETWORK TO LAUNCH MARCH 31 --- Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, unless they deliberately lie it's

Re: Race to the Bottom

2004-03-11 Thread William T Goodall
On 11 Mar 2004, at 9:29 pm, Gautam Mukunda wrote: --- Jan Coffey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry, but your numbers I believe are wrong. It is 1 in 6 jobs that are going to India, that's not 1 in 6 tech jobs, it's 1 in 6 jobs. Jan, think about what you're saying here. There are ~100 million jobs

Re: Red Dwarf predicted this 20 years ago (almost)

2004-03-11 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 3/11/2004 3:57:10 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Red Dwarf predicted this 20 years ago (almost) And Arthur C. Clarke did it even 20 years before Red Dwarf. Though he never mentioned the product by name.. William Taylor

Re: LIBERAL TALKRADIO NETWORK TO LAUNCH MARCH 31

2004-03-11 Thread Gautam Mukunda
--- Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What I don't understand is how you can make this a consistent matter of principal. If you apply this to for profit corporations, then a number of things that you have defended as free speech are really coerced speech. For example, is it OK for

Re: Red Dwarf predicted this 20 years ago (almost)

2004-03-11 Thread Tom Beck
And Arthur C. Clarke did it even 20 years before Red Dwarf. Though he never mentioned the product by name.. Did he really? In which story? -- Tom Beck my LiveJournal:

RE: Race to the Bottom

2004-03-11 Thread Horn, John
From: Jon Gabriel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] By the way Jan, Ritu is probably one of the nicest, most levelheaded people we have on this list. Especially considering she's an import from that other list (along with Lal, of course). grin Seriously, that's one of the greatest thing about

Re: LIBERAL TALKRADIO NETWORK TO LAUNCH MARCH 31

2004-03-11 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: Gautam Mukunda [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 7:05 PM Subject: Re: LIBERAL TALKRADIO NETWORK TO LAUNCH MARCH 31 --- Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What I don't understand is how you can

Re: Emulation (was: Federal Marriage Amendment)

2004-03-11 Thread William T Goodall
On 11 Mar 2004, at 10:06 pm, Deborah Harrell wrote: Robert J. Chassell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: most snipped Rather than talk about the human morality of killing humans, I am curious how many on this list think that it is morally good to emulate a `higher being'? That depends on whether the

Re: Race to the Bottom

2004-03-11 Thread Jan Coffey
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Lalith Vipulananthan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jan wrote: My best friend is Indian and holds an Indian passport, I'm curious about this friend of yours. A few questions: does he work in IT as well? Is he getting paid much less than a typical American, and if

Re: LIBERAL TALKRADIO NETWORK TO LAUNCH MARCH 31

2004-03-11 Thread Dan Minette
I just checked the local public radio website and got the following number Nearly 90% of Houston Public Radio's annual operating budget comes from the local community 60% comes from individual listeners, a lot comes from local companies. I don't think Houston has a budget for public radio. If

Re: LIBERAL TALKRADIO NETWORK TO LAUNCH MARCH 31

2004-03-11 Thread Kevin Tarr
NPR's own official ombudsman, Jeffrey Dvorkin, admitted a liberal bias in NPR's talk programming. The daily program Fresh Air with Terry Gross -- a 60-minute talk show about the arts, literature and also politics -- airs on 378 public-radio stations across the fruited plain. Gross recently

Re: Race to the Bottom

2004-03-11 Thread Jan Coffey
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Gautam Mukunda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Jan Coffey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry, but your numbers I believe are wrong. It is 1 in 6 jobs that are going to India, that's not 1 in 6 tech jobs, it's 1 in 6 jobs. Jan, think about what you're saying here.

Re: Race to the Bottom

2004-03-11 Thread Jan Coffey
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Gautam Mukunda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Richard Baker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gautam said: Let me suggest an analogy. Someone invents a gadget - a new computer program, let's say - that allows us to replace computer programmers with this program.

Re: Race to the Bottom

2004-03-11 Thread Jan Coffey
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 11 Mar 2004, at 9:29 pm, Gautam Mukunda wrote: --- Jan Coffey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry, but your numbers I believe are wrong. It is 1 in 6 jobs that are going to India, that's not 1 in 6 tech jobs, it's 1

Re: LIBERAL TALKRADIO NETWORK TO LAUNCH MARCH 31

2004-03-11 Thread Kevin Tarr
At 07:47 PM 3/11/2004, you wrote: --- Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Coerced speech is a violation of the most fundamental principles of the United States. It is ironic and revelatory that people who think preventing flag burning is an atrocity are fine with NPR. So, are you

Re: Race to the Bottom

2004-03-11 Thread Jan Coffey
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Horn, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Jon Gabriel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] By the way Jan, Ritu is probably one of the nicest, most levelheaded people we have on this list. I never suggested otherwise. She is entitled to her opinions, but it is a bit rude

Re: LIBERAL TALKRADIO NETWORK TO LAUNCH MARCH 31

2004-03-11 Thread Gautam Mukunda
--- Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My taxes are being given to Halliburton to do things the government want done. I have as much choice in the matter as you do with NPR. They turn around and use part of that money to buy political influence. Public radio is given government money to

Re: LIBERAL TALKRADIO NETWORK TO LAUNCH MARCH 31

2004-03-11 Thread Tom Beck
NPR's own official ombudsman, Jeffrey Dvorkin, admitted a liberal bias in NPR's talk programming. The daily program Fresh Air with Terry Gross -- a 60-minute talk show about the arts, literature and also politics -- airs on 378 public-radio stations across the fruited plain. Gross recently

Re: Race to the Bottom

2004-03-11 Thread Gautam Mukunda
--- Jan Coffey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: San Jose Paper. sais 1 in 6 jobs in the bay area are now or will be replaced by outsourcing. Without even having seen the article I say, without fear of contradiction, that it did not. _At most_ it said that 1 in 6 jobs in San Jose were at risk from

Study: ReptiliKlan 'Abstince Only' Sex Education Completely Fails

2004-03-11 Thread The Fool
http://releases.usnewswire.com/GetRelease.asp?id=147-03092004 Virginity Pledges Do Not Reduce Rates of Sexually Transmitted Diseases; More Evidence that Young People Need Comprehensive Sexuality Education NEW YORK, March 9 /U.S. Newswire/ -- A report released today at the National STD Prevention

Re: LIBERAL TALKRADIO NETWORK TO LAUNCH MARCH 31

2004-03-11 Thread Kevin Tarr
At 08:46 PM 3/11/2004, you wrote: I just checked the local public radio website and got the following number Nearly 90% of Houston Public Radio's annual operating budget comes from the local community 60% comes from individual listeners, a lot comes from local companies. I don't think Houston

Re: LIBERAL TALKRADIO NETWORK TO LAUNCH MARCH 31

2004-03-11 Thread Kevin Tarr
At 09:15 PM 3/11/2004, you wrote: NPR's own official ombudsman, Jeffrey Dvorkin, admitted a liberal bias in NPR's talk programming. The daily program Fresh Air with Terry Gross -- a 60-minute talk show about the arts, literature and also politics -- airs on 378 public-radio stations across the

Re: LIBERAL TALKRADIO NETWORK TO LAUNCH MARCH 31

2004-03-11 Thread Erik Reuter
On Thu, Mar 11, 2004 at 06:07:44PM -0800, Gautam Mukunda wrote: But it's not a real parallel, because Halliburton wins those contracts on a free market basis. I think he has a point, Gautam. Everyone competes for government money. The government could cut off all funding for public radio, or

Re: Red Dwarf predicted this 20 years ago (almost)

2004-03-11 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 3/11/2004 6:12:35 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: And Arthur C. Clarke did it even 20 years before Red Dwarf. Though he never mentioned the product by name.. Did he really? In which story? Damn. I figured someone would ask. I don't

Re: Paul Winfield, RIP

2004-03-11 Thread Jim Sharkey
Tom Beck wrote: Jon Gabriel wrote: Did you know there's a Tenagra Observatory whose name is based on the episode? http://www.tenagraobservatories.com/Who%20are%20we.htm There's also a Darmok Dictionary at http://www.chaparraltree.com/sflang/darmok.shtml. Both of these links were tres cool.

Re: LIBERAL TALKRADIO NETWORK TO LAUNCH MARCH 31

2004-03-11 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: Kevin Tarr [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 8:18 PM Subject: Re: LIBERAL TALKRADIO NETWORK TO LAUNCH MARCH 31 There was an editorial I read, it may have been on here, about science reporting. How

Re: Race to the Bottom

2004-03-11 Thread Jim Sharkey
Erik Reuter wrote: ritu wrote: I'll be *really* heretical and repeat something Gord told me: apparently South Korea has better internet connectivity and speed than even the North American Continent... Why is that heretical? I would think it would be obvious, considering the population density.

Re: Emulation

2004-03-11 Thread Dave Land
William T Goodall wrote: Religion is about crazy people blowing stuff up. Sorry, can't agree. *Intolerance* and *fanaticism* often involve crazy people blowing stuff up, not religion. To insist on equating religion with violence is a form of intolerance in itself, and to have a statement like

Re: LIBERAL TALKRADIO NETWORK TO LAUNCH MARCH 31

2004-03-11 Thread Gautam Mukunda
--- Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Mar 11, 2004 at 06:07:44PM -0800, Gautam Mukunda wrote: But it's not a real parallel, because Halliburton wins those contracts on a free market basis. I think he has a point, Gautam. Everyone competes for government money. The

Re: Race to the Bottom

2004-03-11 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: Jan Coffey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 7:56 PM Subject: Re: Race to the Bottom --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Horn, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Jon Gabriel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Oh that liberal media

2004-03-11 Thread Gautam Mukunda
A pretty classic example... http://slingsnarrows.erudite-absurdity.com/archive/001447.html = Gautam Mukunda [EMAIL PROTECTED] Freedom is not free http://www.mukunda.blogspot.com __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search - Find what you’re looking for faster

RE: Race to the Bottom

2004-03-11 Thread ritu
Julia Thompson wrote: Richard Baker wrote: Gautam said: Let me suggest an analogy. Someone invents a gadget - a new computer program, let's say - that allows us to replace computer programmers with this program. Would you argue that the government should stop us from

Re: LIBERAL TALKRADIO NETWORK TO LAUNCH MARCH 31

2004-03-11 Thread Kevin Tarr
At 09:47 PM 3/11/2004, you wrote: - Original Message - From: Kevin Tarr [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 8:18 PM Subject: Re: LIBERAL TALKRADIO NETWORK TO LAUNCH MARCH 31 There was an editorial I read, it may have been on

Re: LIBERAL TALKRADIO NETWORK TO LAUNCH MARCH 31

2004-03-11 Thread Kevin Tarr
At 09:47 PM 3/11/2004, you wrote: - Original Message - From: Kevin Tarr [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 8:18 PM Subject: Re: LIBERAL TALKRADIO NETWORK TO LAUNCH MARCH 31 There was an editorial I read, it may have been on

Re: Race to the Bottom

2004-03-11 Thread William T Goodall
On 12 Mar 2004, at 2:16 am, Gautam Mukunda wrote: Wages adjusted for the lower cost of living? Higher, certainly. The _total welfare of the society will increase_. Now, it's an entirely appropriate use of government power to tax the winners in this sort of free market friction to compensate

Terror Blasts Kill at Least 192 in Spain

2004-03-11 Thread Robert Seeberger
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20040311/D818EM8G1.html A series of bombs hidden in backpacks exploded in quick succession Thursday, blowing apart four commuter trains and killing at least 192 people and wounding 1,200. Spain blamed Basque separatists but a shadowy group claimed responsibility

Re: America, land of the Ashcroft-haters

2004-03-11 Thread Bemmzim
In a message dated 3/11/2004 6:16:55 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: True as far as it goes, but I believe that he called _American_ soldiers cowards instead. That was not exactly okay. a serious charge if true. can you document

Re: LIBERAL TALKRADIO NETWORK TO LAUNCH MARCH 31

2004-03-11 Thread Bemmzim
In a message dated 3/11/2004 6:19:01 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: There is a difference, in fact. NPR is much worse. NPR is done with _my tax dollars_. That is, it supported by money taken by threat of force. And NPR pretends to be unbiased, when it is in fact

Re: LIBERAL TALKRADIO NETWORK TO LAUNCH MARCH 31

2004-03-11 Thread Doug Pensinger
Gautam wrote: If NPR's _only_ public funding was from federal grants that it won competitively, that would be fine. But it doesn't - it gets special allocations and special privileges that aren't on the open market. It competes not through bidding, but through the political process - through

Re: Race to the Bottom

2004-03-11 Thread Gautam Mukunda
--- William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It depends how it is distributed. I recall reading something about how the more socialist and redistributive taxation in Europe had caused growth to be slightly lower than in the US (as you argue), but that the poorest 25% in the US are

Re: America, land of the Ashcroft-haters

2004-03-11 Thread Gautam Mukunda
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 3/11/2004 6:16:55 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: True as far as it goes, but I believe that he called _American_ soldiers cowards instead. That was not exactly okay. a serious charge if true. can you

Re: LIBERAL TALKRADIO NETWORK TO LAUNCH MARCH 31

2004-03-11 Thread Bemmzim
In a message dated 3/11/2004 7:39:45 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Note that it could be 50 cents, and I would still think it's unconscionable, but I _believe_ that this is a fudge on their part. Not a lie, per se, but I think that some fairly substantial fractions of

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