Re: Are You A Neocon? Neocon Quiz

2004-12-11 Thread Doug Pensinger
Gautam wrote: You wouldn't? You're awfully certain about which policies are right and wrong on a lot of different issues to agree with what I've written. The two stances conflict. I have strong opinions on many subjects, but expressing an opinion doesn't equal certianty. If you want my

Week 14 NFL Picks

2004-12-11 Thread John D. Giorgis
After a respectable 11-5 last week, I am now 111-81 for the year. The Upset Special moved to 6-7 after Dallas came back in the final minutes against Seattle on Monday Night Football. Oakland at Atlanta - The last time the Falcons got clobbered this season, they bounced back with a huge game in

Re: Week 14 NFL Picks

2004-12-11 Thread Erik Reuter
Starting from week 13, cumulative scores +7 benchmark +6 JDG --- Week 14 --- Benchmark FAVORITES: Arizona Atlanta Baltimore Buffalo Carolina Dallas Denver Green Bay Indianapolis Jacksonville Minnesota New England Philadelphia Pittsburgh San Diego Bechmark ABSTAIN: Tennessee vs. Kansas

Re: Week 14 NFL Picks

2004-12-11 Thread Julia Thompson
On Sat, 11 Dec 2004, John D. Giorgis wrote: Oakland at Atlanta - Pick: FALCONS Falcons. Cleveland at Buffalo - Pick: BILLS Browns. New Orleans at Dallas - Pick: COWBOYS Cowboys. Chicago at Jacksonville - Pick: BEARS UPSET SPECIAL Bears. New York Giants at Baltimore - Pick: RAVENS

I hope that you really are fair...

2004-12-11 Thread Erik Reuter
http://news.ft.com/cms/s/3280514e-4a47-11d9-b065-0e2511c8.html Dock of the bay By Mark Huband Financial Times, December 10 2004 18:09 EXCERPTS: Nearly 750 men from more than 40 countries have been jailed in Guantánamo since the US toppled the Taliban regime in Afghanistan at the end of

Re: God Is With Us L3

2004-12-11 Thread Warren Ockrassa
On Dec 11, 2004, at 11:59 AM, Damon Agretto wrote: Apparently armor-plate manufacturers are currently working at only half capacity. They say they can double output any time the Fed asks them to. (Presumably they are not outsourcing.) Do you have a cite? Took some digging. It was initially

Re: God Is With Us L3

2004-12-11 Thread Warren Ockrassa
On Dec 11, 2004, at 4:39 PM, Gautam Mukunda wrote: --- Warren Ockrassa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Which is even more disgusting, since half of them were AROUND when Viet Nam was taking place. How pig-stupid ass-backwards do you have to be to not even recall the lessons of history you've lived

Re: Are You A Neocon? Neocon Quiz

2004-12-11 Thread Gautam Mukunda
--- Doug Pensinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have strong opinions on many subjects, but expressing an opinion doesn't equal certianty. It rather depends on the opinion, doesn't it? What are the long term effects of pissing everyone in the world off, Gautam? It's not really about

Re: God Is With Us L3

2004-12-11 Thread Warren Ockrassa
On Dec 11, 2004, at 10:33 PM, Dan Minette wrote: From: Warren Ockrassa [EMAIL PROTECTED] Let's see. For starters, don't let old hawks like Rummy and Cheney grab the reins. Um, don't assume that US forces will be welcomed by the natives. Never assume you've got a situation in hand before you've

Re: Are You A Neocon? Neocon Quiz

2004-12-11 Thread Doug Pensinger
I thought I already sent this - over three hours ago, but I don't see it on the list so I'll try again. Gautam wrote: See, Doug, this is where we disagree. You have somehow managed to convince yourself that the rest of the world is interested in the right thing. No, _I'm_ interested in doing

Re: Are You A Neocon? Neocon Quiz

2004-12-11 Thread Gautam Mukunda
--- Doug Pensinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, _I'm_ interested in doing the right thing as, I believe, are the vast majority of the people (not governments) of the world. How nice for you. It must be nice to be able to operate in such a world. Want to, say, take an opinion poll in Syria

Re: God Is With Us L3

2004-12-11 Thread Damon Agretto
Apparently armor-plate manufacturers are currently working at only half capacity. They say they can double output any time the Fed asks them to. (Presumably they are not outsourcing.) Do you have a cite? All Rummy and co have to do is send a team to Iraq, evaluate the different field solutions

Re: God Is With Us L3

2004-12-11 Thread Gautam Mukunda
--- Warren Ockrassa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Which is even more disgusting, since half of them were AROUND when Viet Nam was taking place. How pig-stupid ass-backwards do you have to be to not even recall the lessons of history you've lived through? -- Warren Ockrassa,

Re: God Is With Us L3

2004-12-11 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: Warren Ockrassa [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2004 5:59 PM Subject: Re: God Is With Us L3 Let's see. For starters, don't let old hawks like Rummy and Cheney grab the reins. Um, don't assume that US