Re: 9/11 conspiracies

2006-09-16 Thread Gibson Jonathan
Greetings Gautam, Thank you for your response. I appreciate the level headed tone and reasonable queries. And for giving this a much-needed new thread label. Conspiracies theories, are just that until proven and are by necessity vague to some depth. I am earnestly seeking answers and

Re: 9/11 conspiracies (WAS RE: What should we believe when there is no reliable information?)

2006-09-16 Thread Dave Land
Gautam, et al, Sometimes, my wife says of herself, I don't know how you can stand to be around me: _I_ can barely take it. That's a little how I feel about myself and my recent interest in all the 9/11 conspiracies: I can hardly stand to be around myself when I get caught up in it. After

Re: 9/11 conspiracies (WAS RE: What should we believe when there is no reliable information?)

2006-09-16 Thread Gautam Mukunda
--- Dave Land [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm writing to apologize for being such a pompous ass. Also to state that my current position on the whole thing is that whoever it was who plotted to bring down the WTC buildings succeeded in a manner so spectacular that it must have surprised even

9-11 conspiricy theories

2006-09-16 Thread Dan Minette
I'm going to move a few things in Jonathan's post around a bit to try to organize a response on what I think is a key to the discussion. That is, how one evaluates opinions. The first thing I want to address is the idea that folks who have the knowledge needed to demonstrate something is clearly

Re: 9/11 conspiracies

2006-09-16 Thread Gautam Mukunda
--- Gibson Jonathan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have no idea if your accomplished friend is in on anything. If I had I would have directly said so. I wasn't trying to besmirch her, I was pointing out many people accept a go-along-to-get-along mentality and yet others find this quite

Re: 9/11 conspiracies (WAS RE: What should we believe when there is no reliable information?)

2006-09-16 Thread William T Goodall
On 16 Sep 2006, at 9:12PM, Dave Land wrote: After watching the Pyroclastic video that WTG pointed to, Not me. Just to clear that up Maru -- William T Goodall Mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web : http://www.wtgab.demon.co.uk Blog : http://radio.weblogs.com/0111221/ Theists cannot be trusted

Pioneer anomaly, was: Re: 9-11 conspiricy theories

2006-09-16 Thread David Hobby
Dan Minette wrote: ... When scientists tracked one of the interplanetary probes, the found an anomaly in its orbit. After doing exhaustive work ruling out the conventional explanations that they could think of, and after discussing it with colleagues, they published the anomaly. For a year,