RE: Re Cost of conservation

2007-05-22 Thread Dan Minette
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Deborah Harrell > Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2007 2:31 PM > To: Killer Bs Discussion > Subject: Re: Re Cost of conservation > > > So I'm not sure how I feel about using corn for > ethanol; is there really

Re: How to survive in a black hole

2007-05-22 Thread dcaa
I remember doing some research on wormholes, and ISTR if you drop "exotic" matter into the singularity, it will theoretically expose it (meaning logically the escape velocity >! C). I, however, have a history degree, not an astrophysics. Plus, I'm interested mainly as RPG fodder... :) Damon. --

RE: How to survive in a black hole

2007-05-22 Thread Horn, John
> On Behalf Of Richard Baker > On the other > hand, I'm pretty sure that for the spinning, uncharged case > you have to pass through an infinite blueshift surface on the > way through though, so you'll be fried even if you aren't shredded. I really hate it when that happens. Obligatory second

Re: How to survive in a black hole

2007-05-22 Thread Richard Baker
Damon said: > Really though, isn't this largely academic, since you probably > wouldn't survive the tidal forces involved? Sufficiently large black holes have low enough tidal forces at the horizon that you should be able to survive crossing that without too much difficulty. You'll still be

Re: How to survive in a black hole

2007-05-22 Thread dcaa
Really though, isn't this largely academic, since you probably wouldn't survive the tidal forces involved? Would you be able to escape if you dropped some "exotic" matter into the singularity? Damon. Damon Agretto [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Q

Re: How to survive in a black hole

2007-05-22 Thread PAT MATHEWS
>From: Richard Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion >To: Killer Bs Discussion >Subject: Re: How to survive in a black hole >Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 19:22:55 +0100 > >Pat said: > > > Wait a minute! As I have always understood black holes, don't you > > have all the time in the

Re: How to survive in a black hole

2007-05-22 Thread Richard Baker
Pat said: > Wait a minute! As I have always understood black holes, don't you > have all the time in the world left? No, you don't. From the viewpoint of a distant observer you *appear* to fall ever more slowly towards the horizon (and your image becomes ever dimmer and redder), but from yo

RE: How to survive in a black hole

2007-05-22 Thread PAT MATHEWS
Wait a minute! As I have always understood black holes, don't you have all the time in the world left? http://idiotgrrl.livejournal.com/ "'Earth is just a starter planet.' Stephen Colbert" From: Ronn! Blankenship <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion To: "Killer Bs Discuss

How to survive in a black hole

2007-05-22 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
So there you are: you discover that your spaceship has inadvertently slipped across the event horizon of a black hole — the boundary beyond which nothing, not even light, can escape the hole's fearsome gravity. The only question is how you can maximize the time you have left. What do you do?