Re: Brin: Probably not what you meant by Transparency

2008-04-30 Thread Dave Land
On Apr 30, 2008, at 5:03 PM, Nick Arnett wrote: > On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 9:59 AM, David Brin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > >> Gadzooks. I predicted this would be painful... A >> site that plots people convicted by crimes in a map >> of any neighborhood. >> http://www.felonspy.com/search.htm

Memristor: Missing Fourth Electronic Circuit Element

2008-04-30 Thread Rceeberger
http://blog.wired.com/gadgets/2008/04/scientists-prov.html Researchers at HP Labs have built the first working prototypes of an important new electronic component that may lead to instant-on PCs as well as analog computers that process information the way the humain brain does. The new compone

Bio fuels

2008-04-30 Thread jon louis mann
which is better for ethanol; sugar cane, corn, switch grass, soy or hemp?~) jon A: None of the above, because they all contribute to world hunger. Ethanol manufactured from atmosphere processing plants powered by solar energy is the correct answer. I was being facetious, curtis, although i think

Bio fuels

2008-04-30 Thread jon louis mann
which is better for ethanol; sugar cane, corn, switch grass, soy or hemp?~) Malt and hops... Drink it, don't burn it. Right. And then, because you're all liquored up, you ought not to drive, so you save fuel. Brilliant. Dave I prefer the evil henbane plant. then i can fly!~) jon

Re: Brin: Probably not what you meant by Transparency

2008-04-30 Thread Nick Arnett
feloneyspy.com is fake!! At this point in our nation's history, I don't believe there is any way to even compile such a database, other than the Megan's Law one, which only covers certain sexual offenses. Not that it makes sense to have a registry of them, but not murderers... but that's how it is.

Re: Bio fuels

2008-04-30 Thread Dave Land
On Apr 30, 2008, at 1:35 PM, Charlie Bell wrote: > On 01/05/2008, at 6:06 AM, jon louis mann wrote: >> which is better for ethanol; sugar cane, corn, switch grass, soy or >> hemp?~) > > Malt and hops... > > Drink it, don't burn it. Right. And then, because you're all liquored up, you ought not to

Re: Bio fuels

2008-04-30 Thread Charlie Bell
On 01/05/2008, at 6:42 AM, Curtis Burisch wrote: >>> What about algae the produce large amounts of complex hydrocarbons >>> per unit >>> of input sunlight, as the syn biology proposal I mentioned would do. >>> Granted, it's a tough job as Charlie pointed out, but the price of >>> equipment for syn

Re: Bio fuels

2008-04-30 Thread Charlie Bell
On 01/05/2008, at 6:40 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> Drink it, don't burn it. > > Just as long as you don't fill your tank with 40 liters of > ethanol. :-) Not > even a Scott can handle that much. :-) Who's Scott? Charlie ___ http://www.mccmedia.

RE: Bio fuels

2008-04-30 Thread Curtis Burisch
>> What about algae the produce large amounts of complex hydrocarbons >> per unit >> of input sunlight, as the syn biology proposal I mentioned would do. >> Granted, it's a tough job as Charlie pointed out, but the price of >> equipment for synthetic biology is falling faster than Moore's >> la

RE: Bio fuels

2008-04-30 Thread Curtis Burisch
>> which is better for ethanol; sugar cane, corn, switch grass, soy or >> hemp?~) >Malt and hops... >Drink it, don't burn it. Hey, I like this guy! I like they way he thinks! Rgds C ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Bio fuels

2008-04-30 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Original Message: - From: Charlie Bell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 06:35:29 +1000 To: brin-l@mccmedia.com Subject: Re: Bio fuels On 01/05/2008, at 6:06 AM, jon louis mann wrote: >> which is better for ethanol; sugar cane, corn, switch grass, soy or >> hemp?~) >Malt

Re: Bio fuels

2008-04-30 Thread Charlie Bell
On 01/05/2008, at 6:26 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >> A: None of the above, because they all contribute to world hunger. > > Agreed. It might be pointed out, though, that it took 1/3rd of the > US corn > crop being devoted to ethanol for the price of food to affect the > lives of > peopl

Re: Bio fuels

2008-04-30 Thread Charlie Bell
On 01/05/2008, at 6:06 AM, jon louis mann wrote: > which is better for ethanol; sugar cane, corn, switch grass, soy or > hemp?~) Malt and hops... Drink it, don't burn it. Charlie ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

RE: Bio fuels

2008-04-30 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Original Message: - From: Curtis Burisch [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 22:10:30 +0200 To: brin-l@mccmedia.com Subject: RE: Bio fuels >>which is better for ethanol; sugar cane, corn, switch grass, >>soy or hemp?~) >A: None of the above, because they all contribute to

RE: Bio fuels

2008-04-30 Thread Curtis Burisch
A: None of the above, because they all contribute to world hunger. Ethanol manufactured from atmosphere processing plants powered by solar energy is the correct answer. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of jon louis mann Sent: Wednesday, April 3

Bio fuels

2008-04-30 Thread jon louis mann
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RE: polyandry

2008-04-30 Thread Curtis Burisch
>but what would happen to the excess women? Isn't that where the polygamists come into the equation? :D lol Rgds c ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

polyandry

2008-04-30 Thread jon louis mann
empowering women is definitely a pragmatic solution. protecting children, ending polygamy and legalizing same sex marriage, also... jon How do you feel about polyandry? Julia makes a lot more mathematical sense than polygamy. two goes into one more practically than one into two... women

Weekly Chat Reminder

2008-04-30 Thread William T Goodall
The Brin-L weekly chat has been a list tradition for over nine years. Way back on 27 May, 1998, Marco Maisenhelder first set up a chatroom for the list, and on the next day, he established a weekly chat time. We've been through several servers, chat technologies, and even casts of regulars over th

Re: Brin: Probably not what you meant by Transparency

2008-04-30 Thread David Brin
Gadzooks. I predicted this would be painful... A site that plots people convicted by crimes in a map of any neighborhood. http://www.felonspy.com/search.html We both need this new ere of better vision... and need desperately to grow up, in order to use it wisely. Again, see my Google Tech Talk

Re: culling the species

2008-04-30 Thread Kevin B. O'Brien
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Original Message: > - > From: Kevin B. O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 15:56:38 -0400 > To: brin-l@mccmedia.com > Subject: Re: culling the species > > > > >> If not, why do you think that the present level of population is >> unsustai

RE: Brin: Probably not what you meant by Transparency

2008-04-30 Thread Curtis Burisch
I had heard about this from a recent post on, I forget -- either el reg or Slashdot. Nowhere was there an implication that it was fake. It's possible this _particular_ url is fake, but there certainly is a real one floating about, whether it's this one or not. Personally I think it's a truly great

Re: culling the species

2008-04-30 Thread Julia Thompson
On Tue, 29 Apr 2008, jon louis mann wrote: > empowering women is definitely a pragmatic solution. protecting > children, ending polygamy and legalizing same sex marriage, also... How do you feel about polyandry? Julia ___ http://www.mccmedi

Re: Global Warming

2008-04-30 Thread Julia Thompson
On Tue, 29 Apr 2008, Nick Arnett wrote: > On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 12:42 PM, jon louis mann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > >> The point, however, is that you seldom hear of any rich, white, >> American environmentalists offering to stop polluting and green the >> planet by composting themselves .

Re: Brin: Probably not what you meant by Transparency

2008-04-30 Thread Nick Arnett
On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 6:38 AM, Alberto Monteiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > A site that plots people convicted by crimes in a map: > > http://www.felonspy.com/search.html You think it's not DB's idea of transparency because of the nature of it... or because it is totally fake? Because it is,

Brin: Probably not what you meant by Transparency

2008-04-30 Thread Alberto Monteiro
A site that plots people convicted by crimes in a map: http://www.felonspy.com/search.html Alberto Monteiro ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Global Warming

2008-04-30 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Russell Chapman wrote: > >> The deforestation in Brazil has _zero_ correlation with AGW >> prevention, biofuels, or anything like that. It's just the >> continuous push of civilization against forests, the same >> event that devastated European forests 500 years ago and >> USA forests 200 years ag

Re: Global Warming

2008-04-30 Thread Russell Chapman
Alberto Monteiro wrote: > Russell Chapman wrote: > >> The same source puts Brazil at 5th in the world for the >> same reason - ironically due to US AGW prevention measures >> >> > The deforestation in Brazil has _zero_ correlation with AGW > prevention, biofuels, or anything like that. It's

Re: Global Warming

2008-04-30 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Russell Chapman wrote: > > The same source puts Brazil at 5th in the world for the > same reason - ironically due to US AGW prevention measures > The deforestation in Brazil has _zero_ correlation with AGW prevention, biofuels, or anything like that. It's just the continuous push of civilization a

Re: Global Warming

2008-04-30 Thread Russell Chapman
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > China has the coal reserves to keep up this rate of increase, and it's at > the heart of their ecconomic expansion. At this rate, by 2015, they'll > have about twice the output of Europe and the US combined. That's why > getting the cost of green technology down is crit

Re: Brin-l Digest, Vol 377, Issue 3

2008-04-30 Thread Charlie Bell
On 18/04/2008, at 7:02 AM, hkhenson wrote: > What gives you the idea space is harsh? Now a wind generator > standing in salt water, that's harsh. Vacuum ablation. Extreme UV and other radiation. Huge temperature differentials between sun and shade... (although they should be using that diff