Re: Brin: in the Conservapedia

2008-07-01 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 7/1/2008 11:14:03 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It's not even comprehensive. I could have written a better survivalist entry... bleah. Would a pro-luddite website be an oxymoron? Vilyehm **Gas prices getting you down? Sear

Re: Brin: in the Conservapedia

2008-07-01 Thread David Brin
It's not even comprehensive. I could have written a better survivalist entry... bleah. --- Alberto Monteiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > BTW, it's frustating that the only reference to > David Brin in > the Conservapedia is in article: > > http://www.conservapedia.com/Survivalist_retreat > >

Re: Bacteria evolve; Conservapedia demands recount

2008-07-01 Thread Alberto Monteiro
David Hobby wrote: > >> If you consider that Wikipedia's math content was stolen >> from Eric W. Weisstein's MathWorld, who, in his turn, also >> stole from voluntary contributions, then I think it's fine. > > In my experience, the two differ a fair amount. To be fair, > there are only so many w

Brin: in the Conservapedia

2008-07-01 Thread Alberto Monteiro
BTW, it's frustating that the only reference to David Brin in the Conservapedia is in article: http://www.conservapedia.com/Survivalist_retreat Alberto Monteiro ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Bacteria evolve; Conservapedia demands recount

2008-07-01 Thread David Hobby
Alberto Monteiro wrote: ... > I guess the only vaguely math related topic in the Bible > is the approximation pi ~ 3. But how can we do mathematics without divine guidance!? >>> Conservapedia is quite poor in Math articles. >> Hence the question: How blatantly can they steal content >> they want

Re: Bacteria evolve; Conservapedia demands recount

2008-07-01 Thread Alberto Monteiro
David Hobby wrote: > > A lot of people don't like imaginary numbers, so that would > be popular. I don't think it says in the Bible that sqrt(2) > is rational, so they'd probably let it stay irrational. : ) > I guess the only vaguely math related topic in the Bible is the approximation pi ~ 3.

RE: Bacteria evolve; Conservapedia demands recount

2008-07-01 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Dan M wrote: > >> OTOH, maybe a conservative math would be comfortable with an >> absolute universal set... > > For a while the Catholic church would only accept Cardinal numbers > up to 72. :-) > No, if you take God's promise to Abraham, modified by the New Testament interpretation, that the

RE: Bacteria evolve; Conservapedia demands recount

2008-07-01 Thread Dan M
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Nick Arnett > Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 10:08 AM > To: Killer Bs (David Brin et al) Discussion > Subject: Re: Bacteria evolve; Conservapedia demands recount > > On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 7:00 AM, Dan

Re: Bacteria evolve; Conservapedia demands recount

2008-07-01 Thread Nick Arnett
On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 7:00 AM, Dan M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Good old Tommy Aquinas argued against that about 1000 years ago. But, he's > Catholic and suspect. It would have been rather difficult for him to have been a Protestant. Are there conservative Christians who seriously say t

Re: Bacteria evolve; Conservapedia demands recount

2008-07-01 Thread David Hobby
Alberto Monteiro wrote: ... >> There are some thorny problems for religious fundamentalists, >> even in mathematics. The only safe thing to do might be to >> have a completely finitary mathematics, making no assumptions >> about infinite objects whatsoever. >> > Maybe a conservative math should ba

RE: Bacteria evolve; Conservapedia demands recount

2008-07-01 Thread Dan M
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Alberto Monteiro > Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 9:32 AM > To: Killer Bs (David Brin et al) Discussion > Subject: Re: Bacteria evolve; Conservapedia demands recount > > OTOH, maybe a conservative math

Re: Bacteria evolve; Conservapedia demands recount

2008-07-01 Thread Alberto Monteiro
David Hobby wrote: > > Hi. Thanks for pointing out the status of the Conservapedia. > I'd say it's a good thing, since I don't really want the > authors trying to edit Wikipedia! > As if there were enough trolls in the Wikipedia... > There is an interesting question: Could Conservapedia just

RE: Bacteria evolve; Conservapedia demands recount

2008-07-01 Thread Dan M
> (Maybe they'll get around to copying material for it > eventually.) But this axiom implies the Axiom of Choice. Being religiously minded, I tend to take a totally different tact with literalists. I agree that scripture is the inspired word of God. But, I then to go whether it was intended to

Re: Bacteria evolve; Conservapedia demands recount

2008-07-01 Thread David Hobby
Alberto Monteiro wrote: > I love the Conservapedia. It's an endless source of humor. Maybe > I should sign in and create an account. Some articles, like... > > http://www.conservapedia.com/Axiom_of_Choice > > ... lack enough "conservatism"; there's no line claiming that > the Axiom of Choice is a

Bacteria evolve; Conservapedia demands recount

2008-07-01 Thread Alberto Monteiro
I love the Conservapedia. It's an endless source of humor. Maybe I should sign in and create an account. Some articles, like... http://www.conservapedia.com/Axiom_of_Choice ... lack enough "conservatism"; there's no line claiming that the Axiom of Choice is atheistic mathematics and the work of S

Re: Bacteria evolve; Conservapedia demands recount

2008-07-01 Thread Charlie Bell
On 01/07/2008, at 11:27 AM, William T Goodall wrote: > > On 1 Jul 2008, at 01:55, William T Goodall wrote: > >> "By John Timmer | Published: June 29, 2008 - 11:35PM CT >> Noises off > > http://arstechnica.com/articles/culture/conservapedias-evolutionary-foibles.ars It's well worth reading Lenski