Re: Draft [was: Bush II]

2004-11-07 Thread Erik Reuter
On Sat, Nov 06, 2004 at 09:13:38PM -0500, Damon Agretto wrote: Right now, this becomes a very pertinent question for me. One of my relatives is of draftable age, and is a junior in college. Currently, I think he's becoming a bit of a screw-up (problems with

Re: Draft [was: Bush II]

2004-11-07 Thread Robert J. Chassell
I'm wondering what your take is on the draft According to the CIA World Factbook http://www.odci.gov/cia/publications/factbook/print/us.html the US has 2,124,164 (2004 est.) males reaching military age annually. The usual estimates are that the US military needs 100,000 more

Draft [was: Bush II]

2004-11-06 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Gautam Mukunda wrote: No, actually, I know far better than you do that it isn't. That's nonsense. It's not coming back. I read somewhere that the volunteer soldiers that are dying in Viet... Oops... Iraq are actually foreigners who want to get USA citizenship, and the only way to get it is

Re: Draft [was: Bush II]

2004-11-06 Thread Damon Agretto
If this group has some magnitude in numbers, then I imagine draft will not come back - except when the USA ceases to be an economically viable place to emigrate to. Some may be. Enlisting in the US Military has NEVER been subject to the condition of citizenship. Any person can qualify to join

Re: Draft [was: Bush II]

2004-11-06 Thread Doug Pensinger
Damon wrote: Some may be. Enlisting in the US Military has NEVER been subject to the condition of citizenship. Any person can qualify to join the Army, no matter what country they come from, or what citizenship they hold (barring any extenuation circumstances, like espionage etc). But I have

Re: Draft [was: Bush II]

2004-11-06 Thread Gautam Mukunda
--- Doug Pensinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not saying Gautam is wrong, I trust that he knows what he's talking about in this instance, but I don't want to be caught off guard either. -- Doug Thanks, Doug. Just a note - the Washington Post ran an article on the possibility just

Re: Draft [was: Bush II]

2004-11-06 Thread Damon Agretto
I'm wondering what your take is on the draft, Damon. I don't see how Iraq can be subdued without greater numbers and I think that it's likely that we'll begin to loose coalition members as the violence continues; what if the UK pulls out? Well, its as I had said before: we reap what we sow.

Re: Draft [was: Bush II]

2004-11-06 Thread Julia Thompson
On Sat, 6 Nov 2004, Gautam Mukunda wrote: Thanks, Doug. Just a note - the Washington Post ran an article on the possibility just before the election. Quite a few Republicans (myself included, actually) thought it was a clear attempt to help the Kerry campaign (and thus somewhat out of

Re: Draft [was: Bush II]

2004-11-06 Thread Gautam Mukunda
--- Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Occasionally the Post will skew things and create stuff that just isn't there. And if they do it on the wrong story, someone a lot closer to the facts will harbor a deep mistrust of the paper for 10 years or so, and will only reluctantly be

Re: Draft [was: Bush II]

2004-11-06 Thread Doug Pensinger
Damon wrote: I'm wondering what your take is on the draft, Damon. I don't see how Iraq can be subdued without greater numbers and I think that it's likely that we'll begin to loose coalition members as the violence continues; what if the UK pulls out? Well, its as I had said before: we reap

Re: Draft [was: Bush II]

2004-11-06 Thread Damon Agretto
OK, but if what you're saying is that an 18 division all volunteer army is possible; we could recruit enough people to fill the ranks, then why didn't we start doing it after 9/11? I'm not saying that an all volunteer 18 division army is possible, it has been done! Prior to GW1 and after

Re: Draft [was: Bush II]

2004-11-06 Thread Julia Thompson
On Sat, 6 Nov 2004, Gautam Mukunda wrote: --- Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Occasionally the Post will skew things and create stuff that just isn't there. And if they do it on the wrong story, someone a lot closer to the facts will harbor a deep mistrust of the paper for