Re: Moving to Montana Soon?

2006-08-17 Thread Deborah Harrell
I'm still on the waiting list for this book, but doggonit, I'm going to jump in anyway (after all, not having read the book hasn't stopped me from joining the discussions at my book club!). [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jim wrote: I have a bit of a problem with this idea that

Re: Moving to Montana Soon?

2006-08-11 Thread jdiebremse
This first chapter is also of particular interest to me, as I traveled extensively through the State of Montana two years ago while retracing the Lewis and Clark Trail - and I'll additionally find myself in the town of Big Sky, MT next week on business for work. The chapter certainly held my

Re: Moving to Montana Soon?

2006-08-11 Thread Richard Baker
JDG said: At the end of the day, this chapter seems like a laundry list of environmental problems facing Montana. That's all well and good, but a similar list of problems could probably be produced for almost any location you care to name. What doesn't happen is that this list of

Re: Moving to Montana Soon?

2006-08-03 Thread bemmzim
Jim wrote: I have a bit of a problem with this idea that environmentalism and economics are mortal enemies. There has to be some middle ground. In fact, in the long run, environmentalism makes good business sense. The problem is that so many businesses in this country don't take

RE: Moving to Montana Soon?

2006-08-02 Thread Jim Sharkey
Doug Pensinger wrote: One interesting conundrum he discusses is the conflict between businesses that exist to make money and moral obligations to clean up after themselves. Is this a good argument against the preeminence of a free market economy or can we have both a strong economy and a

Re: Moving to Montana Soon?

2006-08-02 Thread Brother John
Doug Pensinger wrote: Collapse by Jarred Diamond Part One: Modern Montana Chapter One: Under Montana's Big Sky [...] A similarity to my home town of Morgan Hill, Ca. to the Bitterroot Valley is the contrast in attitudes of the old timers; farmers and ranchers with sizeable land holdings and

Re: Moving to Montana Soon?

2006-08-02 Thread maru dubshinki
On 8/2/06, Doug Pensinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Collapse by Jarred Diamond Part One: Modern Montana Chapter One: Under Montana's Big Sky Diamond picks Montana for his first chapter because he can gage the attitudes of the people that live there, because it provides a contrast to the more

Re: Moving to Montana Soon?

2006-08-02 Thread Bemmzim
In a message dated 8/2/2006 1:31:04 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Montana's problems are somewhat interesting. We can understand and empathize with them because we face many of the same kinds of problems. In comparison with the disaster that occurred on Easter

Re: Moving to Montana Soon?

2006-08-02 Thread Doug Pensinger
Jim wrote: I have a bit of a problem with this idea that environmentalism and economics are mortal enemies. There has to be some middle ground. In fact, in the long run, environmentalism makes good business sense. The problem is that so many businesses in this country don't take the long

Re: Moving to Montana Soon?

2006-08-02 Thread Doug Pensinger
Brother John wrote: Have you ever driven through the Bitterroot Valley south of Missoula, Montana? No. Montana is one of sevenor eight states I've never set foot in. I have done it only once, but I was deeply impressed with the beauty of it, and the size of the huge wood frame houses along

Re: Moving to Montana Soon?

2006-08-02 Thread Doug Pensinger
Bob wrote: What struck me was the absence of any easy answers. There are people of good will but they cannot agree. The issue of the long term effects of mining of non-renewable resources is more difficult and profound than I realized. I see no solution other than to hold the companies

Moving to Montana Soon?

2006-08-01 Thread Doug Pensinger
Collapse by Jarred Diamond Part One: Modern Montana Chapter One: Under Montana's Big Sky Diamond picks Montana for his first chapter because he can gage the attitudes of the people that live there, because it provides a contrast to the more fragile societies discussed in later chapters and