At 11:58 AM 10/22/2004 -0500 Dan Minette wrote:
Clinton, on the other hand, stands out for increasing normalized revenues
Presuming, of course, that you consider increasing federal revenues to 21%
of GDP for the first time since World War II to be a good thing.
JDG
At 09:57 AM 10/23/2004 -0400 JDG wrote:
At 11:58 AM 10/22/2004 -0500 Dan Minette wrote:
Clinton, on the other hand, stands out for increasing normalized revenues
Presuming, of course, that you consider increasing federal revenues to 21%
of GDP for the first time since World War II to be a good
At 02:16 PM 10/22/2004 -0700 David Brin wrote:
--- Dan M offered interesting statistics. But the
core thing is this. Clinton asked THIS generation to
pay for our own expenses. W is demanding that our
children pay for a trillion dollar gift to his
friends...
Actually, John Kerry has been
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From: David Brin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Did you consider the tribute that Saudi Arabia
and Kuwait
were paying after the 1st Gulf War?
The incredible
--- Dan
your attempt to paraphrase and clarify is appreciated
as sincere, but it breaks down with the following:
3) He obtains agreement to oust Hussein's army from
Kuwait, but to only do
that. He agrees to not invade Iraq. He thinks he
can inflict enough damage on Hussein's forces and
David's comment on the US budget got me thinking...how has income and
expenses changed (as a fraction of GDP) over the last 50 or so years.
Here's some US budget numbers for % changes over 4 year
intervals...corresponding to presidential terms:
YearIncome Expense
One more set of numbers...this time its a breakdown of the sources of
income for the US government:..as a fraction of GDP. The income tax, as a
% of receipts goes up and down. But, we see corporate taxes fall
significantly, while the Social security tax rises...almost in exact
opposition. In
--- Dan M offered interesting statistics. But the
core thing is this. Clinton asked THIS generation to
pay for our own expenses. W is demanding that our
children pay for a trillion dollar gift to his
friends...
...on the excuse that his frat brothers will tthen
invest in jobs at home (they
--- Dan M offered interesting statistics. But the
core thing is this. Clinton asked THIS generation to
pay for our own expenses. W is demanding that our
children pay for a trillion dollar gift to his
friends...
...on the excuse that his frat brothers will tthen
invest in jobs at home (they have
Dan Minette asked:
Did you consider the tribute that Saudi Arabia and Kuwait
were paying after the 1st Gulf War? That could easily justify
this difference.
How much was this tribute supposed to have been?
Some hundreds of billions
Alberto Monteiro
Did you consider the tribute that Saudi Arabia
and Kuwait
were paying after the 1st Gulf War?
The incredible fact that the 91 war was run at a
profit sort of helps make up (but nothing can ever
make up) for the Shame of 91. See http://www.davidbrin.com/shame.html
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Sent: Friday, October 22, 2004 8:17 PM
Subject: Re: Brin: US Budget
Dan Minette asked:
Did you consider the tribute that Saudi Arabia and Kuwait
were paying after the 1st
On Fri, Oct 22, 2004 at 11:58:12AM -0500, Dan Minette wrote:
The source for my numbers is:
http://www.gpoaccess.gov/usbudget/fy05/hist.html
Very interesting data, Dan. Thanks for posting the link. I graphed
it here:
http://erikreuter.net/econ/budget.png
A couple things that jumped out
Dan Minette wrote:
First of all; a number of nations did chip in for the cost of the first
Gulf War. It amounted to less than 100 billion. The Saudis, the Kuwaitis
and the Japanese were the biggest contributors.
But, let us look at that kind of money over 9 years (assuming it started
late
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