Secular belief vs Science

2008-08-29 Thread David Land
Folks, We talk a lot -- some might say too much -- about the pernicious effects of blind religious belief, especially as it prevents rational thought about science. You might say that Science is sacred around here. But secular belief can be just as blinding just as stupid dangerous. Consider

Re: Secular belief vs Science

2008-08-29 Thread William T Goodall
On 29 Aug 2008, at 20:18, David Land wrote: My mind boggled. Why ask the damn question, then? She had faith. Unreasoning Belief Maru -- William T Goodall Mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web : http://www.wtgab.demon.co.uk Blog : http://radio.weblogs.com/0111221/ There's no chance that the

Secular belief vs Science

2008-08-29 Thread Jon Louis Mann
Consider the caller Charlane on NPR's Science Friday just now. The topic was the (now thoroughly-debunked) concerns about links between vaccines autusm and other vaccine scares. She was adamant about not having her baby immunized on the CDC-recommended schedule because, among other

Re: Secular belief vs Science

2008-08-29 Thread William T Goodall
On 29 Aug 2008, at 21:04, Jon Louis Mann wrote: when it was time for my son to be immunized several years ago, i opted to wait till he was older, and then space them out; figuring better to be safe than sorry. i suppose that is why some people choose to believe in gawd. jon So it's

Secular belief vs Science

2008-08-29 Thread Jon Louis Mann
when it was time for my son to be immunized several years ago, i opted to wait till he was older, and then space them out; figuring better to be safe than sorry. i suppose that is why some people choose to believe in gawd. jon So it's the immunization version of Pascal's

Re: Secular belief vs Science

2008-08-29 Thread Charlie Bell
On 30/08/2008, at 8:05 AM, Jon Louis Mann wrote: Pascal's Wager (or Pascal's Gambit) is a suggestion posed by the French philosopher Blaise Pascal that even though the existence of God cannot be determined through reason, a person should wager as though God exists, because so living