Re: States Bent on Collecting Internet Taxes

2004-03-09 Thread Julia Thompson
Mike Lee wrote: Erik came up with a modest proposal to help the poor pay their fair share: So tax color TV's and microwave ovens, if you can. And woofers. And anything made by Hostess. And fake fingernails. The National Enquirer. Velvet Elvis paintings. Burritos from 7-ll. Come to

RE: States Bent on Collecting Internet Taxes

2004-03-08 Thread Mike Lee
Ronn, compassionately interested in my dirty life and times, asked: So, why were you poor? Because I deserved it. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

RE: States Bent on Collecting Internet Taxes

2004-03-08 Thread Mike Lee
Erik came up with a modest proposal to help the poor pay their fair share: So tax color TV's and microwave ovens, if you can. And woofers. And anything made by Hostess. And fake fingernails. The National Enquirer. Velvet Elvis paintings. Burritos from 7-ll. Come to think of it, the poor are

RE: States Bent on Collecting Internet Taxes

2004-03-08 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 09:54 PM 3/8/04, Mike Lee wrote: ...snip... (b) To eat cake, because Albertson's is closed before you get out of bed for the day, you must go to a 24 hour market Most of the Albertson's stores I'm familiar with (in Utah and Colorado) are open 24/7. (At least they were when I was living

Re: States Bent on Collecting Internet Taxes

2004-03-07 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 10:18 PM 3/6/04, Robert Seeberger wrote: - Original Message - From: Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2004 9:33 PM Subject: Re: States Bent on Collecting Internet Taxes Ronn!Blankenship wrote: At 03:46 PM 3/6/04

Re: States Bent on Collecting Internet Taxes

2004-03-07 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: Ronn!Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2004 1:22 PM Subject: Re: States Bent on Collecting Internet Taxes At 10:18 PM 3/6/04, Robert Seeberger wrote: - Original Message - From: Julia

Re: States Bent on Collecting Internet Taxes

2004-03-07 Thread Julia Thompson
Ronn!Blankenship wrote: At 10:18 PM 3/6/04, Robert Seeberger wrote: - Original Message - From: Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2004 9:33 PM Subject: Re: States Bent on Collecting Internet Taxes Ronn

Re: States Bent on Collecting Internet Taxes

2004-03-07 Thread Julia Thompson
Robert Seeberger wrote: xponent Why Do You Put Babies In A Blender Feet First? Maru rob I'm afraid of the answer on this one. But curious. Julia ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: States Bent on Collecting Internet Taxes

2004-03-07 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2004 2:19 PM Subject: Re: States Bent on Collecting Internet Taxes Robert Seeberger wrote: xponent Why Do You Put Babies In A Blender Feet First? Maru

RE: States Bent on Collecting Internet Taxes

2004-03-07 Thread Mike Lee
Tom Beck defended the poor from higher consumption taxes: Except, the poor have no choice but to consume (we all have to consume SOMETHING), and nothing to invest (because they've spent all their little money). An assumption being made here is that the poor should pay less just because

Re: States Bent on Collecting Internet Taxes

2004-03-07 Thread Julia Thompson
Robert Seeberger wrote: xponent And Then There Is The Truckload Of Bowling Balls Maru rob Too hard to unload with a pitchfork. Julia ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

RE: States Bent on Collecting Internet Taxes

2004-03-07 Thread Kevin Tarr
At 04:55 PM 3/7/2004, you wrote: Tom Beck defended the poor from higher consumption taxes: Except, the poor have no choice but to consume (we all have to consume SOMETHING), and nothing to invest (because they've spent all their little money). An assumption being made here is that the poor

RE: States Bent on Collecting Internet Taxes

2004-03-07 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 03:55 PM 3/7/04, Mike Lee wrote: ...snip... The majority of people who are poor are either young and paying their dues or else they work less, work less intelligently, have less discipline and focus, and contribute less to the wealth and infrastructure of our culture. Very many of them

Re: States Bent on Collecting Internet Taxes

2004-03-07 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
on Collecting Internet Taxes Ronn!Blankenship wrote: At 03:46 PM 3/6/04, Julia Thompson wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 3/6/2004 1:58:30 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But (if your locality is like many, where

Re: States Bent on Collecting Internet Taxes

2004-03-07 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 02:49 PM 3/7/04, Robert Seeberger wrote: - Original Message - From: Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2004 2:19 PM Subject: Re: States Bent on Collecting Internet Taxes Robert Seeberger wrote: xponent Why Do You

Re: States Bent on Collecting Internet Taxes

2004-03-07 Thread Erik Reuter
On Sun, Mar 07, 2004 at 01:55:27PM -0800, Mike Lee wrote: An assumption being made here is that the poor should pay less just because they're poor. Actually, I can see a good argument for them having to pay *more* because they contribute so little to the society that makes it possible for

Re: States Bent on Collecting Internet Taxes

2004-03-06 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 10:38 PM 3/5/04, Kevin Tarr wrote: At 06:01 PM 3/5/2004, you wrote: What I didn't add: the main reason for moving the ST was to bring property tax relief. In other words, shift the tax burden from the well-off (property owners) to the less-well-off (the poor, who spend a much higher

Re: States Bent on Collecting Internet Taxes

2004-03-06 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 3/6/2004 1:58:30 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But (if your locality is like many, where property taxes are the major source of funding for schools) what about the children? -- Ronn! :) They taste good with ketchup. ---Smaug, get out

Re: States Bent on Collecting Internet Taxes

2004-03-06 Thread Julia Thompson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 3/6/2004 1:58:30 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But (if your locality is like many, where property taxes are the major source of funding for schools) what about the children? -- Ronn! :) They taste good

Re: States Bent on Collecting Internet Taxes

2004-03-06 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 3/6/2004 2:46:13 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: what about the children? -- Ronn! :) They taste good with ketchup. ---Smaug, get out of here. You're in the wrong string of messages. But are they crunchy? Julia Considering

Re: States Bent on Collecting Internet Taxes

2004-03-06 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 03:46 PM 3/6/04, Julia Thompson wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 3/6/2004 1:58:30 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But (if your locality is like many, where property taxes are the major source of funding for schools) what about the children?

Re: States Bent on Collecting Internet Taxes

2004-03-06 Thread Julia Thompson
Ronn!Blankenship wrote: At 03:46 PM 3/6/04, Julia Thompson wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 3/6/2004 1:58:30 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But (if your locality is like many, where property taxes are the major source of funding

Re: States Bent on Collecting Internet Taxes

2004-03-06 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2004 9:33 PM Subject: Re: States Bent on Collecting Internet Taxes Ronn!Blankenship wrote: At 03:46 PM 3/6/04, Julia Thompson wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: States Bent on Collecting Internet Taxes

2004-03-05 Thread William T Goodall
The majority of online retailers based in the US now collect European sales taxes on downloadable sales to European customers. If I buy 'software' - a program, clip-art or whatever from the US I have to pay 17.5% VAT and in most cases the store will charge that and pass it on to the UK

Re: States Bent on Collecting Internet Taxes

2004-03-05 Thread Kevin Tarr
At 10:45 PM 3/4/2004, you wrote: Kevin Tarr wrote: The debate here is to lower the sales tax from 6 to 4%, but tax everything. Currently uncooked food and clothes are exempt. The hue and cry of course is that this will unfairly target the poor. But most studies show that overall the consumer

Re: States Bent on Collecting Internet Taxes

2004-03-05 Thread Tom Beck
What I didn't add: the main reason for moving the ST was to bring property tax relief. In other words, shift the tax burden from the well-off (property owners) to the less-well-off (the poor, who spend a much higher percentage of their income and thus are much more affected by increases

Re: States Bent on Collecting Internet Taxes

2004-03-05 Thread Gautam Mukunda
--- Tom Beck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In other words, shift the tax burden from the well-off (property owners) to the less-well-off (the poor, who spend a much higher percentage of their income and thus are much more affected by increases in sales tax). Or, of course, to shift the

Re: States Bent on Collecting Internet Taxes

2004-03-05 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: Gautam Mukunda [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 05, 2004 5:17 PM Subject: Re: States Bent on Collecting Internet Taxes --- Tom Beck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In other words, shift the tax burden from

Re: States Bent on Collecting Internet Taxes

2004-03-05 Thread Tom Beck
Or, of course, to shift the tax burden from investment to consumption... Except, the poor have no choice but to consume (we all have to consume SOMETHING), and nothing to invest (because they've spent all their little money). If you have to increase the sales tax, at least exempt

Re: States Bent on Collecting Internet Taxes

2004-03-05 Thread Erik Reuter
On Fri, Mar 05, 2004 at 08:22:42PM -0500, Tom Beck wrote: If you have to increase the sales tax, at least exempt necessities such as food and shelter. But the initial story posted here indicated they were going to END such an exemption. Right. Encouraging savings is a very good idea with the

Re: States Bent on Collecting Internet Taxes

2004-03-05 Thread Kevin Tarr
At 08:22 PM 3/5/2004, you wrote: Or, of course, to shift the tax burden from investment to consumption... Except, the poor have no choice but to consume (we all have to consume SOMETHING), and nothing to invest (because they've spent all their little money). If you have to increase the sales

Re: States Bent on Collecting Internet Taxes

2004-03-05 Thread Kevin Tarr
At 06:01 PM 3/5/2004, you wrote: What I didn't add: the main reason for moving the ST was to bring property tax relief. In other words, shift the tax burden from the well-off (property owners) to the less-well-off (the poor, who spend a much higher percentage of their income and thus are much

Re: States Bent on Collecting Internet Taxes

2004-03-05 Thread Julia Thompson
Kevin Tarr wrote: At 10:45 PM 3/4/2004, you wrote: Kevin Tarr wrote: The debate here is to lower the sales tax from 6 to 4%, but tax everything. Currently uncooked food and clothes are exempt. The hue and cry of course is that this will unfairly target the poor. But most studies

Re: States Bent on Collecting Internet Taxes

2004-03-05 Thread David Hobby
Robert Seeberger wrote: http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2cid=528u=/ap/20040304/ap_on_hi_te/internet_sales_tax_7printer=1 Remember all those gifts you bought online during the holidays? Now it's time to pay sales tax on them, at least so say the income tax forms of 20 states. The

States Bent on Collecting Internet Taxes

2004-03-04 Thread Robert Seeberger
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2cid=528u=/ap/20040304/ap_on_hi_te/internet_sales_tax_7printer=1 Remember all those gifts you bought online during the holidays? Now it's time to pay sales tax on them, at least so say the income tax forms of 20 states. The latest to outstretch that

Re: States Bent on Collecting Internet Taxes

2004-03-04 Thread Kevin Tarr
At 08:48 PM 3/4/2004, you wrote: http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2cid=528u=/ap/20040304/ap_on_hi_te/internet_sales_tax_7printer=1 snip Forty-five states require buyers to pay sales taxes on Internet and other out-of-state purchases, though a few, including California and Minnesota, exempt

Re: States Bent on Collecting Internet Taxes

2004-03-04 Thread Julia Thompson
Kevin Tarr wrote: The debate here is to lower the sales tax from 6 to 4%, but tax everything. Currently uncooked food and clothes are exempt. The hue and cry of course is that this will unfairly target the poor. But most studies show that overall the consumer will see lower taxes and with a