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Subject: Re: Wal-Mart efficiency (was Re: My annual Xmas tirade...)
Are you seriously saying that walmart sells for $1.00 goods for every
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Subject: Re: Wal-Mart efficiency (was Re: My annual Xmas tirade...)
Do you exclude food from your calculations? (Most food isn't grown in
Red
From: Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: The Fool
Do you exclude food from your calculations? (Most food isn't grown
in
Red China)
No, I didn't realize that certain things didn't count as products
for
you. But, I'll be happy to look at non-food items as a catagory.
The
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Stores are ecconomic entities. Forcing people to buy from less
efficent
stores is an ecconomic decision. What other factors, that are not
tied to
jobs, prices, income, etc. are you thinking of? I know
On 12/24/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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... ignoring the impact on people who are
marginalized
by the changes brought about by Wal-Mart's tactics is bad, in my opinion.
But, isn't the fact that Wal-Mart cut prices by innovation good? Isn't
making the nation, as a whole,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote,
One of the basic precepts of free market economics is competition
between suppliers. ...
Many of these companies (eg Walmart) are growing so huge and
powerful that they are endangering that. Here in Australia we
have basically two large food etc
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For example, you brought up that cost is not the only measure, the
distance
needed to travel to shop is a factor that has to be included. The counter
would be that shoppers at Wal-Mart have already made this
tradeoff. People
won't
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Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2005 09:14:35 -0800
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On 12/23/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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For example, you brought up
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The fact that Wal-Mart can make money and people end up driving
farther
doesn't
make it good that they've driven smaller businesses out of
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From: Nick Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 09:08:30 -0800
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Subject: Re: Wal-Mart efficiency (was Re: My annual Xmas tirade...)
On 12/22/05, Dan Minette
And cutting unnecessary costs. Wal-Mart has driven up
_productivity_.
'Productivity' is just another word for the 'efficiency' that you
worship like a supply sider.
Like Brad Delong and Paul Krugman? Are you seriously arguing against the
notion that improved productivity has been the
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And cutting unnecessary costs. Wal-Mart has driven up
_productivity_.
'Productivity' is just another word for the 'efficiency' that you
worship like a supply sider.
Like Brad Delong and Paul Krugman?
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Who both argue for the joys of 'free trade' as if
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Subject: Re: Wal-Mart efficiency (was Re: My annual Xmas tirade...)
On 12/21/05, Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
That it drives out
At 09:39 PM Wednesday 12/21/2005, The Fool wrote:
From: Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: The Fool
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From: Dave Land [EMAIL PROTECTED]
And no, I don't want us to be communist or something else,
I just don't want my economy destroyed by rapacity.
Since most
On 12/22/05, Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
But, the efficiency improvement from Wal-Mart is documented. It is really
efficiency.
That's only one measurement. Surely you don't think that prices and profits
are all there is to evaluating Wal-Mart? Are you unwilling to consider
other
From: Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: Nick Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 12/21/05, Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
That it drives out small businesses that create qualitative and
hard-to-quantify benefits?
Sure, it drives out small businesses. Small businesses are rather
On Dec 22, 2005, at 3:50 AM, Dan Minette wrote:
Small businesses offer less in the way of health insurance than big
businesses.
And Wal-Mart offers even less than most small businesses. Are you
sure you're helping your case?
Dave
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On Dec 22, 2005, at 9:08 AM, Nick Arnett wrote:
On 12/22/05, Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And cutting unnecessary costs. Wal-Mart has driven up
_productivity_.
Again, by one measure. Who is measuring the productivity of the
families
and communities that are impacted by
On 22 Dec 2005, at 6:01 pm, Dave Land wrote:
On Dec 22, 2005, at 9:08 AM, Nick Arnett wrote:
On 12/22/05, Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And cutting unnecessary costs. Wal-Mart has driven up
_productivity_.
Again, by one measure. Who is measuring the productivity of the
On 12/20/05, Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So, I'm not sure why Wal-Mart is singled out as evil. Is there some
reason
that inefficiency is inherently moral?
Do I understand you correctly -- your premise is that Wal-Mart is efficient
and its competitors aren't?
Nick
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On 12/20/05, Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So, I'm not sure why
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Subject: Re: Wal-Mart efficiency (was Re: My annual Xmas tirade...)
Whoops, forgot the source for much of my info...
http://en.wikipedia.org
On 12/21/05, Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Wal-Mart's latest (fiscal year ending 1-05) profit margin was 3.6%. They
make a good deal of profit, 10 billion, but on slim margins. This is in
contrast with Microsoft, which has a profit margin of ~32% and about 13
billion in profits.
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Subject: Re: Wal-Mart efficiency (was Re: My annual Xmas tirade...)
On 12/21/05, Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Wal-Mart's latest
Dan Minette wrote:
a wearable shirt costs...at Walmat
To me, that's a contradiction in terms. My personal experiences with
clothes purchased at Wal-Mart is that you get *exactly* what you pay
for. Cheap clothes that look like crap after just a few washings.
Maybe others have had different
On Dec 21, 2005, at 12:35 PM, Nick Arnett wrote:
On 12/21/05, Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Wal-Mart's latest (fiscal year ending 1-05) profit margin was 3.6%.
They make a good deal of profit, 10 billion, but on slim margins.
This is in contrast with Microsoft, which has a profit
On Dec 21, 2005, at 3:29 PM, Dave Land wrote:
...
Forgot the one about underpricing competition until it goes
out of business so that it is free to claim the 'lowest prices'
in town, because nobody else is in town. They even installed
gas pumps at some of their stores so that none of the gas
On 12/21/05, Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
That it drives out small businesses that create qualitative and
hard-to-quantify benefits?
Sure, it drives out small businesses. Small businesses are rather
inefficient at selling, and have to pass the cost on to the customer.
There is a
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From: Dave Land [EMAIL PROTECTED]
And no, I don't want us
From: Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Dave Land [EMAIL PROTECTED]
And no, I don't want us to be communist or something else,
I just don't want my economy destroyed by rapacity.
Since most products sold at walmart are made in china, shopping
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