Re: Wal-Mart efficiency (was Re: My annual Xmas tirade...)

2006-01-05 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: The Fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 12:37 AM Subject: Re: Wal-Mart efficiency (was Re: My annual Xmas tirade...) Are you seriously saying that walmart sells for $1.00 goods for every

Re: Wal-Mart efficiency (was Re: My annual Xmas tirade...)

2006-01-04 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: The Fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 9:39 PM Subject: Re: Wal-Mart efficiency (was Re: My annual Xmas tirade...) Do you exclude food from your calculations? (Most food isn't grown in Red

Re: Wal-Mart efficiency (was Re: My annual Xmas tirade...)

2006-01-04 Thread The Fool
From: Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: The Fool Do you exclude food from your calculations? (Most food isn't grown in Red China) No, I didn't realize that certain things didn't count as products for you. But, I'll be happy to look at non-food items as a catagory. The

RE: Wal-Mart efficiency (was Re: My annual Xmas tirade...)

2005-12-28 Thread Andrew Paul
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Stores are ecconomic entities. Forcing people to buy from less efficent stores is an ecconomic decision. What other factors, that are not tied to jobs, prices, income, etc. are you thinking of? I know

Re: Wal-Mart efficiency (was Re: My annual Xmas tirade...)

2005-12-28 Thread Nick Arnett
On 12/24/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... ignoring the impact on people who are marginalized by the changes brought about by Wal-Mart's tactics is bad, in my opinion. But, isn't the fact that Wal-Mart cut prices by innovation good? Isn't making the nation, as a whole,

RE: Wal-Mart efficiency (was Re: My annual Xmas tirade...) L3

2005-12-28 Thread Robert J. Chassell
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote, One of the basic precepts of free market economics is competition between suppliers. ... Many of these companies (eg Walmart) are growing so huge and powerful that they are endangering that. Here in Australia we have basically two large food etc

Re: Wal-Mart efficiency (was Re: My annual Xmas tirade...)

2005-12-24 Thread Nick Arnett
On 12/23/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For example, you brought up that cost is not the only measure, the distance needed to travel to shop is a factor that has to be included. The counter would be that shoppers at Wal-Mart have already made this tradeoff. People won't

Re: Wal-Mart efficiency (was Re: My annual Xmas tirade...)

2005-12-24 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Original Message: - From: Nick Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2005 09:14:35 -0800 To: brin-l@mccmedia.com Subject: Re: Wal-Mart efficiency (was Re: My annual Xmas tirade...) On 12/23/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For example, you brought up

Re: Wal-Mart efficiency (was Re: My annual Xmas tirade...)

2005-12-24 Thread The Fool
-- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - From: Nick Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 12/23/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The fact that Wal-Mart can make money and people end up driving farther doesn't make it good that they've driven smaller businesses out of

Re: Wal-Mart efficiency (was Re: My annual Xmas tirade...)

2005-12-23 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To:brin-l@mccmedia.com CC: BCC: Subject:Re: Wal-Mart efficiency L3 Original Message: - From: Nick Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 09:08:30 -0800 To: brin-l@mccmedia.com Subject: Re: Wal-Mart efficiency (was Re: My annual Xmas tirade...) On 12/22/05, Dan Minette

Re: Wal-Mart efficiency (was Re: My annual Xmas tirade...)

2005-12-23 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
And cutting unnecessary costs. Wal-Mart has driven up _productivity_. 'Productivity' is just another word for the 'efficiency' that you worship like a supply sider. Like Brad Delong and Paul Krugman? Are you seriously arguing against the notion that improved productivity has been the

Re: Wal-Mart efficiency (was Re: My annual Xmas tirade...)

2005-12-23 Thread The Fool
-- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] And cutting unnecessary costs. Wal-Mart has driven up _productivity_. 'Productivity' is just another word for the 'efficiency' that you worship like a supply sider. Like Brad Delong and Paul Krugman? --- Who both argue for the joys of 'free trade' as if

Re: Wal-Mart efficiency (was Re: My annual Xmas tirade...)

2005-12-22 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: Nick Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 7:15 PM Subject: Re: Wal-Mart efficiency (was Re: My annual Xmas tirade...) On 12/21/05, Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That it drives out

Re: Wal-Mart efficiency (was Re: My annual Xmas tirade...)

2005-12-22 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 09:39 PM Wednesday 12/21/2005, The Fool wrote: From: Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: The Fool -- From: Dave Land [EMAIL PROTECTED] And no, I don't want us to be communist or something else, I just don't want my economy destroyed by rapacity. Since most

Re: Wal-Mart efficiency (was Re: My annual Xmas tirade...)

2005-12-22 Thread Nick Arnett
On 12/22/05, Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But, the efficiency improvement from Wal-Mart is documented. It is really efficiency. That's only one measurement. Surely you don't think that prices and profits are all there is to evaluating Wal-Mart? Are you unwilling to consider other

Re: Wal-Mart efficiency (was Re: My annual Xmas tirade...)

2005-12-22 Thread The Fool
From: Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Nick Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 12/21/05, Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That it drives out small businesses that create qualitative and hard-to-quantify benefits? Sure, it drives out small businesses. Small businesses are rather

Re: Wal-Mart efficiency (was Re: My annual Xmas tirade...)

2005-12-22 Thread Dave Land
On Dec 22, 2005, at 3:50 AM, Dan Minette wrote: Small businesses offer less in the way of health insurance than big businesses. And Wal-Mart offers even less than most small businesses. Are you sure you're helping your case? Dave ___

Re: Wal-Mart efficiency (was Re: My annual Xmas tirade...)

2005-12-22 Thread Dave Land
On Dec 22, 2005, at 9:08 AM, Nick Arnett wrote: On 12/22/05, Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And cutting unnecessary costs. Wal-Mart has driven up _productivity_. Again, by one measure. Who is measuring the productivity of the families and communities that are impacted by

Re: Wal-Mart efficiency (was Re: My annual Xmas tirade...)

2005-12-22 Thread William T Goodall
On 22 Dec 2005, at 6:01 pm, Dave Land wrote: On Dec 22, 2005, at 9:08 AM, Nick Arnett wrote: On 12/22/05, Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And cutting unnecessary costs. Wal-Mart has driven up _productivity_. Again, by one measure. Who is measuring the productivity of the

Wal-Mart efficiency (was Re: My annual Xmas tirade...)

2005-12-21 Thread Nick Arnett
On 12/20/05, Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, I'm not sure why Wal-Mart is singled out as evil. Is there some reason that inefficiency is inherently moral? Do I understand you correctly -- your premise is that Wal-Mart is efficient and its competitors aren't? Nick -- Nick Arnett

Re: Wal-Mart efficiency (was Re: My annual Xmas tirade...)

2005-12-21 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: Nick Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 10:20 AM Subject: Wal-Mart efficiency (was Re: My annual Xmas tirade...) On 12/20/05, Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, I'm not sure why

Re: Wal-Mart efficiency (was Re: My annual Xmas tirade...)

2005-12-21 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 10:39 AM Subject: Re: Wal-Mart efficiency (was Re: My annual Xmas tirade...) Whoops, forgot the source for much of my info... http://en.wikipedia.org

Re: Wal-Mart efficiency (was Re: My annual Xmas tirade...)

2005-12-21 Thread Nick Arnett
On 12/21/05, Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wal-Mart's latest (fiscal year ending 1-05) profit margin was 3.6%. They make a good deal of profit, 10 billion, but on slim margins. This is in contrast with Microsoft, which has a profit margin of ~32% and about 13 billion in profits.

Re: Wal-Mart efficiency (was Re: My annual Xmas tirade...)

2005-12-21 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: Nick Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 2:35 PM Subject: Re: Wal-Mart efficiency (was Re: My annual Xmas tirade...) On 12/21/05, Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wal-Mart's latest

Re: Wal-Mart efficiency (was Re: My annual Xmas tirade...)

2005-12-21 Thread Jim Sharkey
Dan Minette wrote: a wearable shirt costs...at Walmat To me, that's a contradiction in terms. My personal experiences with clothes purchased at Wal-Mart is that you get *exactly* what you pay for. Cheap clothes that look like crap after just a few washings. Maybe others have had different

Re: Wal-Mart efficiency (was Re: My annual Xmas tirade...)

2005-12-21 Thread Dave Land
On Dec 21, 2005, at 12:35 PM, Nick Arnett wrote: On 12/21/05, Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wal-Mart's latest (fiscal year ending 1-05) profit margin was 3.6%. They make a good deal of profit, 10 billion, but on slim margins. This is in contrast with Microsoft, which has a profit

Re: Wal-Mart efficiency (was Re: My annual Xmas tirade...)

2005-12-21 Thread Dave Land
On Dec 21, 2005, at 3:29 PM, Dave Land wrote: ... Forgot the one about underpricing competition until it goes out of business so that it is free to claim the 'lowest prices' in town, because nobody else is in town. They even installed gas pumps at some of their stores so that none of the gas

Re: Wal-Mart efficiency (was Re: My annual Xmas tirade...)

2005-12-21 Thread Nick Arnett
On 12/21/05, Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That it drives out small businesses that create qualitative and hard-to-quantify benefits? Sure, it drives out small businesses. Small businesses are rather inefficient at selling, and have to pass the cost on to the customer. There is a

Re: Wal-Mart efficiency (was Re: My annual Xmas tirade...)

2005-12-21 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: The Fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 6:42 PM Subject: Re: Wal-Mart efficiency (was Re: My annual Xmas tirade...) -- From: Dave Land [EMAIL PROTECTED] And no, I don't want us

Re: Wal-Mart efficiency (was Re: My annual Xmas tirade...)

2005-12-21 Thread The Fool
From: Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: The Fool -- From: Dave Land [EMAIL PROTECTED] And no, I don't want us to be communist or something else, I just don't want my economy destroyed by rapacity. Since most products sold at walmart are made in china, shopping