Re: Wikileaks

2010-12-01 Thread Charlie Bell
On 01/12/2010, at 3:51 PM, Doug Pensinger wrote: There seems to be overwhelming sentiment against Wikileaks' release of confidential documents and I was wondering how people here (some of whom may have read Brin's Transparent Society) felt about it. Judging by how they do it - letting the

Re: Wikileaks

2010-12-01 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Doug Pensinger wrote: I'm generally for transparency and haven't heard of anything yet that is beyond mildly embarrassing to the U. S. government. I do think where the safety of our troops is concerned confidentially is important, but that government secrets should have a relatively short

RE: Wikileaks

2010-12-01 Thread Dan Minette
What if this happened 70 years ago and Manhattan Project was leaked to the nazis (or even the soviets)? It was leaked to the Soviets. While Joe McCarthy was able to find 100% of the communist activists working for the Soviet Union in the United States (names kept in his locked briefcase),

Re: Wikileaks

2010-12-01 Thread Wayne Eddy
It is interesting to hear that there is overwhelming sentiment against Wikileaks in the US. From the comments I have read on newspaper articles about Wikileaks here in Australia, I would think a majority of people here (maybe about 75%) are supportive. Personally, I think there is good and bad

Re: Wikileaks

2010-12-01 Thread Damon Agretto
I don't know; I think it still remains to be seen if the good outweighs the bad. While so far the damage to the US appears to be fairly light, I have to wonder about the damage done to US allies and other countries across the globe. I'm sure the Yemeni president (who has been allegedly lying to

RE: Wikileaks

2010-12-01 Thread Dan Minette
I'm generally for transparency and haven't heard of anything yet that is beyond mildly embarrassing to the U. S. government. I do think where the safety of our troops is concerned confidentially is important, but that government secrets should have a relatively short shelf life in all cases.

Re: Wikileaks

2010-12-01 Thread Matt Grimaldi
Those are just the loudest voices at the moment. I'm wondering, where are the juicy bits that would justify someone to turn whistleblower? Where are the docs to prove that Soylent Green is really people? It would be a shame to waste such an opportunity on something merely embarrassing.

WikiLeaks

2010-12-01 Thread Jon Louis Mann
Doug Pensinger wrote: I'm generally for transparency and haven't heard of anything yet that is beyond mildly embarrassing to the   U.S. government.  I do think where the safety of our troops is concerned confidentially is important, but that government secrets should have a

Re: WikiLeaks

2010-12-01 Thread Doug Pensinger
Jon wrote: Anyone with clearance to that level is personally responsible and signed an oath. 23-year-old, Bradley Manning, a US army intelligence analyst, e-mailed former hacker, Adrian Lamo, bragging that he leaked the diplomatic cables to WikiLeaks, along with a highly classified video

Re: WikiLeaks

2010-12-01 Thread Charlie Bell
On 02/12/2010, at 3:23 PM, Doug Pensinger wrote: Jon wrote: Anyone with clearance to that level is personally responsible and signed an oath. 23-year-old, Bradley Manning, a US army intelligence analyst, e-mailed former hacker, Adrian Lamo, bragging that he leaked the diplomatic cables