My daughter Nelli and I had a long talk last night about world politics,
Africa, Europe, the US, land mines, Iraq, etc. Toward the end of it we
discussed multi-generation African Americans. She said that that she has
been told repeatedly that she wasn't black enough because she takes hard
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
Behalf Of Erik Reuter
Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 5:23 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: br!n: [LINK] What Science Fiction Author Are You?
Do we still have to be careful about the brin: tag? That is,
Dan Minette wrote:
My daughter Nelli and I had a long talk last night about world politics,
Africa, Europe, the US, land mines, Iraq, etc. Toward the end of it we
discussed multi-generation African Americans. She said that that she has
been told repeatedly that she wasn't black enough
Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten wrote:
I finally did it. Finished the bathroom late yesterday evening.
Congratulations! :-)
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Brin-L list pages
From: Adam C. Lipscomb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
http://gning.org/skiffy.html
I got:
Philip José Farmer
This prolific author brings surprising depths to he-man adventure tales, and
broke science fiction's prudery barrier.
Surprising... While I really like PJF (I ran a role-playing game
At 09:47 AM 12/16/02 -0600, Julia Thompson wrote:
Dan Minette wrote:
My daughter Nelli and I had a long talk last night about world politics,
Africa, Europe, the US, land mines, Iraq, etc. Toward the end of it we
discussed multi-generation African Americans. She said that that she has
been
From: Jon Gabriel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Anyway, the 'hot alien chick' guest star is Padma Lakshmi. I knew she
Wasn't she the queen in _The Phantom Menace_?
Oh wait... that was Padme...
- jmh
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I'm waiting for Two Towers. Peter Jackson RAWKS.
*does dance*
Gotta have a new Object of Fanboy Worship, since Lucas managed to
completely f*ck up Star Wars.
I'm taking the day off from work in honor of the event! I got my tickets
for the 11:00 a.m. show on Wednesday morning! Got a
On Mon, 16 Dec 2002, Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
quote
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site and provide ads that are relevant to our audience. It's fast and it's
FREE.
/quote
What if I don't want ANY ads, relevant or not?
Then you get a print
On Mon, 16 Dec 2002, Horn, John wrote:
I'm waiting for Two Towers. Peter Jackson RAWKS.
*does dance*
Gotta have a new Object of Fanboy Worship, since Lucas managed to
completely f*ck up Star Wars.
I'm taking the day off from work in honor of the event! I got my tickets
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Sonja wrote:
I finally did it. Finished the bathroom late yesterday evening.
Steve replied:
Congratulations! :-)
Ditto! Now the question becomes, how long will it take for the men in your
life to break it? ;-)
Reggie Bautista
weave
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At 11:24 AM 12/16/02 -0600, Reggie Bautista wrote:
Sonja wrote:
I finally did it. Finished the bathroom late yesterday evening.
Steve replied:
Congratulations! :-)
Ditto! Now the question becomes, how long will it take for the men in
your life to break it? ;-)
Even more important:
-Original Message-
From: John Garcia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, December 14, 2002 08:53 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Taken
Has anyone watched the SciFi Channel's production Taken? What did you
think about it?
I've managed to avoid it, despite it being
In a message dated 12/16/02 10:09:01 AM US Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I'm going to an 11 PM showing that night. Sure, I'll be asleep at work
the next day, but around here I'm sure no-one will notice
The only reason I won't go on the first day is that I tend
In a message dated 12/16/02 10:28:42 AM US Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
weave
Float like a butterfly?
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http://abcnews.go.com/sections/wnt/DailyNews/saudi_teachers021210.html
In Praise of Bin Laden
Some Saudi Schools Teach Students to Hate the U.S., Love Osama
Reporter's Notebook
By Jim Sciutto
Dec. 10 The Saudi government insists religious extremism is not
sanctioned in the kingdom, and that
From: The Fool [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
http://abcnews.go.com/sections/wnt/DailyNews/saudi_teachers021210.html
Many here also frequently point out that the U.S. military campaign in
Afghanistan left civilians dead - justification, they say,
for al Qaeda's attacks on American civilians.
In a message dated 12/16/02 10:28:42 AM US Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
weave
Float like a butterfly?
Sting like a bee!
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http://abcnews.go.com/sections/wnt/DailyNews/saudi_teachers021210.html
Many here also frequently point out that the U.S. military campaign in
Afghanistan left civilians dead - justification, they say,
for al Qaeda's attacks on American civilians.
-Original Message-
From: Jon Gabriel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 10:54 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: bob
In a message dated 12/16/02 10:28:42 AM US Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
weave
Float like a butterfly?
Matthew 13:12 For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall
have more abundance: but whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away
even that he hath.
So now you know!
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At 19:41 15-12-2002 -0500, Jim Sharkey wrote:
For my birthday last week, a friend of mine was kind enough to burn me a
CD. I finally got a chance to listen to it.
Swell, you say. That was nice of him.
It would be, except it's a CD of Wlliam Shatner and Leonard Nimoy
singing. You've not
Dan wrote:
My daughter Nelli and I had a long talk last night about world politics,
Africa, Europe, the US, land mines, Iraq, etc. Toward the end of it we
discussed multi-generation African Americans. She said that that she has
been told repeatedly that she wasn't black enough because she takes
At 19:26 15-12-2002 -0600, Robert Seeberger wrote:
A Gambian man unused to Germany's winter weather woke up to find his car had
turned completely white overnight and called police to complain vandals had
painted it.
And he didn't notice that everything else in the street was also painted
- Original Message -
From: Reggie Bautista [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 1:24 PM
Subject: Re: African not black enough?
Dan wrote:
My daughter Nelli and I had a long talk last night about world
politics,
Africa, Europe, the US, land mines,
At 19:26 15-12-2002 -0600, Robert Seeberger wrote:
A Gambian man unused to Germany's winter weather woke up to find his car
had
turned completely white overnight and called police to complain vandals
had
painted it.
And he didn't notice that everything else in the street was also painted
--- Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Deborah Harrell wrote:
snippage
Exactly! _Little House On The Prairie_; the fire
may have been set by the Indians before their big
migration, to make it easier for the travois to be
pulled, and something about encouraging new grass
growth for
In Praise of Bin Laden
Some Saudi Schools Teach Students to Hate the U.S., Love Osama
So? I bet some _brazilian_ schools teach students to hate the USA and
love Osama too
Alberto Monteiro
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At 14:59 16-12-2002 -0500, Jon Gabriel wrote:
Speaking of unlurking, there was an Amanda Marlowe posting here in
1997/1998 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). Are you that same Amanda by any chance?
And before you get really wierded out by the question, he's probably
asking for 'probably under construction'
At 13:37 16-12-2002 -0600, Dan Minette wrote:
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I must inform you
Hi folks.
Just a reminder... please remove the Brin: from subject headers when
you (in your own judgment) feel the topic has drifted away from
importance to me.
NOT a serious matter, just a small courtesy.
It's fun to see Brin-L active again and at peace.
Happy holidays all!
db
At 12:35 12-12-2002 -0800, Nick Arnett wrote:
Such as? I know that Outlook, Eudora and Hotmail show the From: header
(name *and* e-mail address), and IIRC so does Netscape. Come to think of
it, it would be rather strange for an e-mail client to not tell you who
sent you a message.
Outlook
From: d.brin
Happy holidays all!
You mean that Sun worshipping thingy coming up in 9 days, that is perhaps
the single biggest amalgam of pagan rituals?
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From: J. van Baardwijk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 2:12 PM
Subject: Re: African not black enough?
At 13:37 16-12-2002 -0600, Dan Minette wrote:
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At 02:48 PM 12/16/02 -0500, Jon Gabriel wrote:
At 19:26 15-12-2002 -0600, Robert Seeberger wrote:
A Gambian man unused to Germany's winter weather woke up to find his car had
turned completely white overnight and called police to complain vandals had
painted it.
And he didn't notice that
You mean that Sun worshipping thingy coming up in 9 days, that is perhaps
the single biggest amalgam of pagan rituals?
You got it.
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In Praise of Bin Laden
Some Saudi Schools Teach Students to Hate the U.S., Love Osama
So? I bet some _brazilian_ schools teach students to hate the USA and
love Osama too
Alberto Monteiro
Are you saying that Brazilian schools also teaching that the murder of
innocent American civilians is
--- The Fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
http://www.secweb.org/asset.asp?AssetID=236
yawns and quits reading after ~ 1/4 article
There are much better parodies and indictments out
there. A sci-fi short story from ~ 20 years ago (it
was in a collection of stories related to religion,
from the SF
--- The Fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Matthew 13:12 For whosoever hath, to him shall be
given, and he shall
have more abundance: but whosoever hath not, from
him shall be taken away even that he hath.
So now you know!
LOL
Much better!
Irony, Satire Or 'Resembles That' Maru
At 21:15 16-12-2002 +0100, I wrote:
Yes and no. The question has everything to do with the Alpha Mail
Statistics, but that page is not under construction; I just haven't
gotten around to restore the content of www.brin-l.com yet.
That problem has been remedied; as of right now, www.brin-l.com
At 19:31 2002-12-15 -0600, you wrote:
http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/story.hts/bizarre/1698583
French is such a rich language that it now has, by state decree, two words
for the at sign, which has become a worldwide symbol for the Internet, but
only one official way to pronounce it.
... snip
In
At 19:37 2002-12-15 -0600, The Fool wrote:
From: Robert Seeberger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/story.hts/bizarre/1698583
French is such a rich language that it now has, by state decree, two
words
French is like those galactic languages, in which their is only one way
to say
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
Behalf Of Jean-Louis Couturier
...
I take it you don't go out much. No two French countries use the
exact same
idiom and even in France, there are regional differences.
Vraiment, comme une vache!
(Thought
So I sent this out to a bunch of friends on Halloween, and apparently,
one of them forwarded it to other people, who forwarded it and forwarded it,
etc. It just arrived *back* in my mailbox from a co-worker.
Only took two months. :)
Anyway, I thought I'd share as it seems to be popular.
Jon
The Fool wrote:
http://www.secweb.org/asset.asp?AssetID=236
You know, that would be funnier if Bob as a religious figure hadn't
already been taken. I'm reading the thing, and waiting for the slack
punchline, and it never comes. Highly irritating.
Julia
who knows a number of
Jeroen wrote:
That problem has been remedied; as of right now, www.brin-l.com is back in
business! :-)
Whaddya know, I'm now in the top 50!
Reggie Bautista
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William T Goodall wrote:
http://www.assotron.com/arse-or-elbow/
I got 10/14. I don't care to speculate what this might mean.
I got 11/14. I'll admit to having hung around clothing-optional events.
Hm, maybe I should send the link to the people more into attending
clothing-optional events,
I just got 2 amusing missives from another list regarding unexpected
mergers. If you'd like copies sent to you off-list, please reply to this
off-list, and I'll send 'em out later.
Julia
p.s. it won't be too late for a good number of days, either, so don't be
shy about asking if
- Original Message -
From: Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 9:09 AM
Subject: African not black enough?
My daughter Nelli and I had a long talk last night about world politics,
Africa, Europe, the US, land mines, Iraq, etc. Toward the
In a message dated 12/16/2002 3:15:56 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
French is like those galactic languages, in which their is only one way
to say something. French is rather anal retentive.
I take it you don't go out much. No two French countries use the
Jon Gabriel wrote:
In Praise of Bin Laden
Some Saudi Schools Teach Students to Hate the U.S., Love Osama
So? I bet some _brazilian_ schools teach students to hate the USA and
love Osama too
Are you saying that Brazilian schools also teaching that the murder of
innocent American
At 17:03 2002-12-16 -0600, you wrote:
Jean-Louis Couturier wrote:
At 19:37 2002-12-15 -0600, The Fool wrote:
From: Robert Seeberger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/story.hts/bizarre/1698583
French is such a rich language that it now has, by state decree, two
words
From: Alberto Monteiro [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: In Praise of Bin Laden
Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 23:00:43 -
Jon Gabriel wrote:
In Praise of Bin Laden
Some Saudi Schools Teach Students to Hate the U.S., Love Osama
So? I bet some
11/14 (I simply assumed that if the pictured part was misshapen that it was
an elbow.)
Jon
GSV (_)(_)
From: William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: BRIN-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Arse or Elbow?
Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 20:01:24 +
http://www.nytimes.com/2002/12/17/science/17JOUR.html
Excerpt:
New Premise in Science: Get the Word Out Quickly, Online
By AMY HARMON
A group of prominent scientists is mounting an electronic challenge to the
leading scientific journals, accusing them of holding back the progress of
science by
- Original Message -
From: Jean-Louis Couturier [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 12:41 PM
Subject: Re: Wierd news: French crack down on Internet pronunciations
xponent
The Harsh Struggle Against Reality Maru
rob
And what is reality? Should
From: Jean-Louis Couturier [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Wierd news: French crack down on Internet pronunciations
Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 18:15:32 -0500
At 17:03 2002-12-16 -0600, you wrote:
Jean-Louis Couturier wrote:
At 19:37 2002-12-15
From: Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The Fool wrote:
http://www.secweb.org/asset.asp?AssetID=236
You know, that would be funnier if Bob as a religious figure hadn't
already been taken. I'm reading the thing, and waiting for the slack
punchline, and it never comes. Highly
Jon Gabriel wrote:
*grin*
My Breadman Ultimate and I are horribly insulted.
:)
Jon
(Who will risk acne for homemade Sourdough Pizza.) :)
Does your Breadman Ultimate have a french bread setting?
An excellent question, and seeing as how I've made a variety of French
Breads, you'd
Michigan program limits drugs for low-income patients
ASSOCIATED PRESS
LANSING, Mich., Dec. 16 Michigan acted legally when it attempted to cut
health care costs by limiting the drugs doctors can
Reggie Bautista wrote:
Whaddya know, I'm now in the top 50!
I'm now well into my seventh year on this list and I still barely scrape
into the top 50. Some of the people near the top were only here for a
little while and still managed thousands of posts...
Cheers
Russell C.
Julia wrote:
William T Goodall wrote:
http://www.assotron.com/arse-or-elbow/
I got 10/14. I don't care to speculate what this might mean.
I got 11/14. I'll admit to having hung around clothing-optional
events.
12/14.
I categorically deny *ever* devoting myself to the study of elbows.
From: The Fool [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
You know, that would be funnier if Bob as a religious figure
hadn't
already been taken. I'm reading the thing, and waiting for the
slack
punchline, and it never comes. Highly irritating.
Julia
who knows a
--- The Fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Michigan program limits drugs for low-income
patients
ASSOCIATED PRESS
LANSING, Mich., Dec. 16 Michigan acted legally
when it attempted to cut
health care costs by limiting the drugs doctors can
prescribe
On 17 Dec 2002 at 10:52, Russell Chapman wrote:
Reggie Bautista wrote:
Whaddya know, I'm now in the top 50!
I'm now well into my seventh year on this list and I still barely
scrape into the top 50. Some of the people near the top were only here
for a little while and still managed
William T Goodall wrote:
http://www.assotron.com/arse-or-elbow/
I got 10/14. I don't care to speculate what this might
mean.
I got 12 out of 14. I'm not sure if that means I know too much about asses or
elbows... :)
Jim
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The Fool wrote:
From: d.brin
Happy holidays all!
You mean that Sun worshipping thingy coming up in 9 days, that is
perhaps the single biggest amalgam of pagan rituals?
A fun alternative might have been just taking the good wishes in the spirit they were
intended.
Have a happy,
William wrote-
http://www.assotron.com/arse-or-elbow/
I got 10/14. I don't care to speculate what this might mean.
Thanks for the grins William,
LOL, I can't find my way around basic computer stuff you guys
all seem to make look like
Russell Chapman wrote:
Reggie Bautista wrote:
Whaddya know, I'm now in the top 50!
I'm now well into my seventh year on this list and I still barely
scrape into the top 50. Some of the people near the top were only
here for a little while and still managed thousands of
posts...
I was
At 05:45 PM 12/16/02 -0800, Deborah Harrell wrote:
--- The Fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Michigan program limits drugs for low-income
patients
ASSOCIATED PRESS
LANSING, Mich., Dec. 16 Michigan acted legally
when it attempted to cut
health care costs by limiting the drugs doctors can
On Monday, December 16, 2002, at 12:32 PM, Miller, Jeffrey wrote:
-Original Message-
From: John Garcia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, December 14, 2002 08:53 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Taken
Has anyone watched the SciFi Channel's production Taken? What did you
Agree with you on the dragging out of the last three episodes. I read
somewhere that SciFi channel once thought about broadcasting Taken over
20 weeks, an episode a week. That might account for the slowness of the
last few episodes. Now, was it me or did the whole toxic spill on the
North
At 09:31 PM 12/16/02 -0500, Jim Sharkey wrote:
William T Goodall wrote:
http://www.assotron.com/arse-or-elbow/
I got 10/14. I don't care to speculate what this might
mean.
I got 12 out of 14. I'm not sure if that means I know too much about
asses or elbows... :)
And I'm not sure which
On Mon, 16 Dec 2002, Dan Minette wrote:
FWIW, she is not an African-American. She is an African who intends to go
back home to live in Zambia.
So I gathered. I was just trying to point out that in America blackness
(i.e. racial/cultural authenticity and solidarity) has long been about
much
In a message dated 12/16/2002 9:04:02 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
And I'm not sure which would be worse: having an elbow that looks more
like a butt, or a butt that looks more like an elbow.
The natural conclusion to this string would be in the form of a
http://www.salon.com/ent/feature/2002/12/17/tolkien_brin/index.html
By now a familiar theme, but very well expressed -- it's been fun watch it
get refined over the last couple of years.
Marvin Long
Austin, Texas
Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Poindexter Ashcroft, LLP (Formerly the USA)
Hi again, all!
I was part of Brin-L back in the Cornell days, unsubbing in 1997.
I just read David Brin's article in today's Salon, and was gratified to see his praise of Harvard Lampoon's Bored of the Rings.
Now, I've long been a Tolkein fan, but I've also treasured BotR.
Among other things,
Hi folks.
The version of my essay on Tolkien now up at:
http://salon.com/ent/feature/2002/12/17/tolkien_brin/index.html
is a shortened version.
nice cover art!
The longer, more erudite version, going into HG Wells and such, is at
http://www.davidbrin.com/tolkienarticle1.html
Now to prepare
Jim says
At its core, LotR is about the little guy standing up and doing
what's right. Gandalf and Aragorn don't defeat Sauron. A hobbit
does.
This is a core element of storytelling that cannot be eliminated. I
have written extensively that Suspicion of Authority SOA is the core
western
In a message dated 12/16/2002 9:29:38 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
http://www.salon.com/ent/feature/2002/12/17/tolkien_brin/index.html
When I saw this post, I immediately said, What football game?
click
::read::
I wish Tolkien could have lived to see how easily
-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
Van: Reggie Bautista [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Verzonden: maandag 16 december 2002 18:25
Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Onderwerp: Re: Finished
Sonja wrote:
I finally did it. Finished the bathroom late yesterday evening.
Steve replied:
Congratulations! :-)
-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
Van: Dan Minette [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Verzonden: maandag 16 december 2002 21:48
Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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