--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Debbi
who can't comment on Tytlals, but doesn't
recommend
shaking a dreaming cat when it's wormed it's way
under the covers with you... ;)
Out of the covers can be dangerous as well.
This is supposed to be a true story..
The end of the tale:
on 18/12/02 1:05 am, Ronn! Blankenship at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
At 11:06 PM 12/17/02 +, William T Goodall wrote:
Genetically it makes more sense to lump people together by invisible
features like (say) blood group than by visible ones like skin/eye/hair
colour.
Perhaps . . . but
Amanda,
Just a reminder, since your subject had brin: in it, your message was
sent to David Brin's email box for his special attention! If you did not
intend this, you can change it to something else (I used br!n:).
--
Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.erikreuter.net/
Trent Shipley wrote:
(Humans *will* play with their own genes. It is our nature. All higher
primates like to play with their own shit.)
Humans _are_ playing with our own genes. All those babies that
are fertilized outsite the body and then implanted are genetically
tested. This test
Deborah Harrell wrote:
A chromosomal mutation like Down's (trisomy 21),
It's not a mutation. Trisomy means that the 21 chromosome
gets a third _copy_. Mutation means that a gene is
alterered.
on the other hand, doesn't appear amenable (to me) to
gene therapy,
Yes, it is very difficult to
If anyone remembers anything that happens in 2003 in
any sf timeline, please tell me. I am desperately in need
of events for this Year. It seems that almost nothing
happens in 2003 :-/
http://www.geocities.com/albmont/year2003.htm
Alberto Monteiro
From: Alberto Monteiro [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Remember the Future
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 14:53:40 -
If anyone remembers anything that happens in 2003 in
any sf timeline, please tell me. I am desperately in need
of events for this Year. It
If anyone remembers anything that happens in 2003 in
any sf timeline, please tell me. I am desperately in need
of events for this Year. It seems that almost nothing
happens in 2003 :-/
http://www.geocities.com/albmont/year2003.htm
Alberto Monteiro
...this HAS to be one of
Robert Seeberger wrote:
I learned how to conjugate verbs in French class. After many years of
english classes it suddenly made sense to me when I was taught how to do it
in French. It still amazes me that grammar made much more sense to me when I
had another language to do it in.
I had a
Ronn! Blankenship wrote:
Okay, so we outlaw alcohol, tobacco, and all other recreational drugs
(including coffee and tea?), as well as unhealthy/excessive food.
The problem is, all of the things you list above except the tobacco and
unhealthy food have been shown to have some health benefits
Deborah Harrell wrote:
I think it's more multi-causal than that (although
hypoxia is absolutely a potential brain-hammer; I say
potential because _all_ vaginal births involve a
certain amount of hypoxia, which we all have obviously
survived). I'll try to look into this in the next
couple
In a message dated 12/18/02 10:26:19 AM US Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I had a similar experience. English grammar made a lot more sense after
I'd spent time learning about German grammar. I think the German
grammar did me more good than the grammar of any of the
Deborah Harrell wrote:
--- Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The second story mentioned is found in _Sacred
Visions_, an anthology of
Catholic-related SF. It's The Pope of the Chimps
by Robert
Silverberg. If you're interested in Catholicism in
SF, _Sacred Visions_
is a
Deborah Harrell wrote:
Bonus points for those who come up with *legitimate*
instances of alcohol or cocaine use that promotes
survival (there are several, but they don't involve
addiction either).
Chewing on the leaves of the plant that ridiculous westerners distill
into cocaine helps the
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 12/17/02 6:22:09 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Out of 60 or so emails so far, 50 have been laudatory. 5 questioning
and 5 politely nit-picky. Not one hate message
I hate pickles.
Then send me yours.
In a message dated 12/18/02 11:34:54 AM US Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 12/17/02 6:22:09 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Out of 60 or so emails so far, 50 have been laudatory. 5 questioning
From: Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: How much do people care about health? (Was:
dorepublicans/politicians care...)
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 11:03:11 -0600
Deborah Harrell wrote:
Bonus points for those who come up with
I hate pickles.
Then send me yours.
Julia
How does one clean the smell of pickle brine out of a fax machine before
the repairman (or the boss) arrives? Answer needed ASAP.
---
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://just-john.com/cn/rfe.shtml *
___
just john wrote:
I hate pickles.
Then send me yours.
Julia
How does one clean the smell of pickle brine out of a fax machine before
the repairman (or the boss) arrives? Answer needed ASAP.
Off the top of my head, I'd do something with baking soda. Not sure
quite what,
Not sure what baking soda will do to a fax machine, although it's more
plausible to have tried to send some paper through that had just a
little baking soda spilled on each page than to have tried to send
anything actually *wet* with pickle brine.
Wouldja believe it's a flatbed combination
Deborah Harrell wrote:
Bonus points for those who come up with *legitimate*
instances of alcohol or cocaine use that promotes
survival (there are several, but they don't involve
addiction either).
Give them to Keith Richards to your band can finish its tour and pay off
Vinnie
Deborah Harrell wrote:
Bonus points for those who come up with *legitimate*
instances of
alcohol or cocaine use that promotes survival (there
are several,
but they don't involve addiction either).
High amounts of muscle relaxants help when you're involved in a car
--- Alberto Monteiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Deborah Harrell wrote:
A chromosomal mutation like Down's (trisomy 21),
It's not a mutation. Trisomy means that the 21
chromosome
gets a third _copy_. Mutation means that a gene is
alterered.
nitpick
Well, mutation in biology means
On this evening of Wednesday dreary
when I logged in,
bored and weary
In the world of Brin-L Chat
As so oft' before
I had
So much it came as a surprise
when I saw blackness,
blackness b'fore my eyes
Again I endeavoured to join in
which I failed,
failed to my chagrin
My
J. van Baardwijk wrote:
On this evening of Wednesday dreary
when I logged in,
bored and weary
In the world of Brin-L Chat
As so oft' before
I had
So much it came as a surprise
when I saw blackness,
blackness b'fore my eyes
If you can't get in through mud.sloansteady.com,
Do decent workers in your countries have the nasty
habbit of turning into annoying beggars during Christmas?
The newspaper delivery boy, the magazine delivery boy,
everywhere I go, I see people asking for money. Wtf should
**I** finance their Christmas shoppings?
Alberto Grinch Monteiro
--- Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Deborah Harrell wrote:
Bonus points for those who come up with
*legitimate*
instances of alcohol or cocaine use that promotes
survival (there are several, but they don't
involve addiction either).
Chewing on the leaves of the plant that
The weekly Brin-L chat is going on right now. Follow the
instructions at
http://www.sloan3d.com/brinl/brinmud.html
This is a newer server that William set up. I changed mud.sloansteady.com to forward to the new server, but it's
been having problems. If mud.sloansteady.com doesn't work,
use
--- Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snippage
The second series is fantasy in SF trappings and
begins with _The
Warlock In Spite Of Himself_. The magic is
explained, but not
entirely to my satisfaction; the magic is on one
planet in a universe
where humans have done a lot of
Julia Thompson wrote:
1 glass of red wine with a red meat meal assists in digestion and may
help with cholesterol issues. (Can't remember the source.)
Paul, in the Bible, in one of the Letters :-)
Alberto Monteiro
___
Deborah Harrell wrote:
A chromosomal mutation like Down's (trisomy 21),
It's not a mutation. Trisomy means that the 21
chromosome gets a third _copy_. Mutation
means that a gene is alterered.
nitpick
Well, mutation in biology means heritable alteration
of the genes or chromosomes (unless
At 15:31 18-12-2002 -0600, Steve Sloan wrote:
If you can't get in through mud.sloansteady.com, try wtgab.demon.co.uk or
80.177.15.74. All use port 2102.
It's a different MUD server, so it may take some getting used to.
On this evening of Wednesday dreary
when I logged in
bored and weary
--- Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ronn! Blankenship wrote:
Okay, so we outlaw alcohol, tobacco, and all other
recreational drugs
(including coffee and tea?), as well as
unhealthy/excessive food.
The problem is, all of the things you list above
except the tobacco and
--- Jon Gabriel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Deborah Harrell wrote:
Bonus points for those who come up with
*legitimate* instances of alcohol or cocaine use
that
promotes
survival (there are several, but they don't
involve addiction either).
Re: alcohol
Disinfectant for wounds.
Can
--- Miller, Jeffrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Deborah Harrell wrote:
Bonus points for those who come up with
*legitimate* instances of
alcohol or cocaine use that promotes
survival (there are several,
but they don't involve addiction either).
High amounts of muscle
On Wed, 18 Dec 2002, Deborah Harrell wrote:
VBG
Not what I had in mind, but if this is the voice of
experience speaking...
Alas, no, but I'm keeping my eyes open for a way to have whisky classified
as a nutrient.
Marvin Long
Austin, Texas
Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Poindexter Ashcroft, LLP
--- J. van Baardwijk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
snip
Not it came as a surprise
when I saw but one chatter
one chatter b'fore my eyes
The regulars and others of the Mud
of this new place
clearly they knew not
So it is with this here writing
that all of thee
we
On 18 Dec 2002 at 22:26, J. van
Baardwijk wrote:
On this evening of Wednesday dreary
when I logged in,
bored and weary
snip
I, among several other people, would if it
was on IRC rather than a MUD.
AndyMr. Crick - Corpnews
(www.corpnews.com)
Faith and purity are inadequate
Kevin Tarr wrote:
I was showed by an older electrician how to play with high voltage. I've
had 480 dancing on my finger tips. I was with him unhooking a house from
the outside electric, which someone turned on. He twisted his ankle
falling
from the ladder after getting shocked but was
--- just john [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
We Were Briefly Popular While Working At The Soil
Testing Lab (which stocked Everclear) Maru
That's about the level of alcohol I'd need to
consume, before I'd even
consider taste-testing soil.
-- the relentlessly oral jj
From: Andrew Crystall [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Brin-L Chat No More?
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 22:38:14 -
On 18 Dec 2002 at 22:26, J. van
Baardwijk wrote:
On this evening of Wednesday dreary
when I logged in,
bored and weary
From: Marvin Long, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: How much do people care about health? Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002
16:40:26 -0600 (CST)
On Wed, 18 Dec 2002, Deborah Harrell wrote:
VBG
Not what I had in mind, but if this is the voice of
--- Steve Sloan II [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Deborah Harrell wrote:
I would love to chat with you.
But my 'puter will not do!
(Else my brain is just too dense
Of instructions to make sense!)
The simplest way in Windows is to hit the Start
button, then
navigate to Programs, then
Debbi wrote:
Bonus points for those who come up with *legitimate*
instances of alcohol or cocaine use that promotes
survival (there are several, but they don't involve
addiction either).
Wasn't alcohol used at one time to delay the onset of
early labor?
Reggie Bautista
Alberto asked
If anyone remembers anything that happens in 2003 in
any sf timeline, please tell me. I am desperately in need
of events for this Year. It seems that almost nothing
happens in 2003 :-/
Just looking over the previous years and I can't believe that you missed
2001:Space
Deborah Harrell wrote:
This got me to the same place that William noted (and
that I got to from your website), but I was unable to
'create debbi' or type any text at all. Help
wasn't. :(
When you get to that screen, you need to type
create debbi some_sort_of_password
without the quotes.
d.brin wrote:
While I couldn't agree more with the statement, am I wrong in my
perception that the present administration has in it's sights the
compromising of said revolution?
Doug
The revolution has worse enemies than romantics. The old feudalists
are always lurking. Always scheming.
--- Robert Seeberger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
From: Steve Sloan II [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The weekly Brin-L chat is going on right now.
Follow the
instructions at
http://www.sloan3d.com/brinl/brinmud.html
This is a newer server that William set up. I
changed mud.sloansteady.com
to
At 09:32 AM 12/16/02 -0800, Miller, Jeffrey wrote:
Instead, I watched The French Connection last night, which in some amazing
twist I've managed to avoid seeing before. AMC has an interesting new
show idea, DVD_TV Shown in LB format, they shove the image to the top
of the screen and use the
- Original Message -
From: Jon Gabriel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 5:35 PM
Subject: Re: Brin-L Chat No More?
From: Andrew Crystall [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Brin-L Chat No More?
Gary Nunn wrote:
Just looking over the previous years and I can't believe that you missed
2001:Space Odyssey. Missing that one is almost Science Fiction blasphemy!
I know. But I couldn't get a date for it :-(
Alberto Monteiro
___
Deborah Harrell wrote:
BTW, the difference between mosaics and non-downs
is much bigger than the difference between mosaics
and 100% trisomies. The reason is not clear, but
_maybe_ the mosaics are handicapped for not being
recognized in earlier stages. The key point is that
babies with Down
At 21:49 2002-12-18 +, you wrote:
Do decent workers in your countries have the nasty
habbit of turning into annoying beggars during Christmas?
The newspaper delivery boy, the magazine delivery boy,
everywhere I go, I see people asking for money. Wtf should
**I** finance their Christmas
At 14:03 2002-12-18 -0800, you wrote:
One friend who loves the Dragonrider series and The
Belgariad has resisted my Brin-pushing sigh, so I've
suggested The Wheel of Time series and just about
anything by Patricia McKillip - The Riddlemaster
series is a favorite.
Addicted To Swords'n'Sorcery
The Rugrats consistently mispronounce and mangle the words that they
hear grownups say. So Bob for God, alium for alien,
quackulator for caclulator and so on. Said mangling being one of
the more funny things about Rugrats, IMHO.
john
On Tuesday, December 17, 2002, at 11:53 AM, Jon Gabriel
From: Steve Sloan II [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Brin-L Chat No More?
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 17:01:09 -0600
Deborah Harrell wrote:
I would love to chat with you.
But my 'puter will not do!
(Else my brain is just too dense
Of instructions
From: Robert Seeberger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Brin-L Chat No More?
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 18:33:14 -0600
- Original Message -
From: Jon Gabriel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 5:35 PM
In a message dated 12/18/2002 5:30:17 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Any bets on how long it will be before that space is dedicated to
advertising?
Before that happens, they will be digitally replacing billboard advertising
in order to get more product placement
On 18 Dec 2002 at 18:33, Robert Seeberger wrote:
- Original Message -
From: Jon Gabriel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 5:35 PM
Subject: Re: Brin-L Chat No More?
From: Andrew Crystall [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
just john wrote:
Not sure what baking soda will do to a fax machine, although it's more
plausible to have tried to send some paper through that had just a
little baking soda spilled on each page than to have tried to send
anything actually *wet* with pickle brine.
Wouldja believe it's a
According to labor statistics, productivity for American workers
continues to climb. I can understand how that is measured for
industries in which there is a measurable *thing* produced, such as
cars or toasters, but how do those statistics get determined for
nontangibles? Let's look at, say,
On Wed, Dec 18, 2002 at 08:22:30PM -0600, Adam C. Lipscomb wrote:
According to labor statistics, productivity for American workers
continues to climb. I can understand how that is measured for
industries in which there is a measurable *thing* produced, such as
cars or toasters, but how do
- Original Message -
From: Jean-Louis Couturier [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 4:12 PM
Subject: Re: bob
At 14:03 2002-12-18 -0800, you wrote:
One friend who loves the Dragonrider series and The
Belgariad has resisted my Brin-pushing sigh,
- Original Message -
From: Jon Gabriel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 7:14 PM
Subject: Re: Brin-L Chat No More?
From: Robert Seeberger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Brin-L Chat No
Deborah Harrell wrote:
--- Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Deborah Harrell wrote:
Bonus points for those who come up with
*legitimate*
instances of alcohol or cocaine use that promotes
survival (there are several, but they don't
involve addiction either).
(Not sure
Alberto Monteiro wrote:
Julia Thompson wrote:
1 glass of red wine with a red meat meal assists in digestion and may
help with cholesterol issues. (Can't remember the source.)
Paul, in the Bible, in one of the Letters :-)
Can you point out in which book he mentions the cholesterol part
Deborah Harrell wrote:
--- Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Tea has flavonids (sp?) that are good for you. 5
cups of green tea a
day gives demonstrated health benefits... I don't
know what the health benefits of black tea are,
but I think I remember reading something about
On Wed, Dec 18, 2002 at 08:43:10PM -0600, Robert Seeberger wrote:
And as for Yahoo being evil, well in that case I dont mind wasting
their resources. G
You consider the Brin-L chat a waste of resources? G
--
Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.erikreuter.net/
Adam C. Lipscomb wrote:
According to labor statistics, productivity for American workers
continues to climb. I can understand how that is measured for
industries in which there is a measurable *thing* produced, such as
cars or toasters, but how do those statistics get determined for
Yesterday in NC the 99th anniversary of motorized flight to
kick off a year of celebrations until the 100th anniversary.
99 different planes (that capture the evolution of flight) flew
over the Wright Brothers memorial- would've been pretty cool
to see.
Dee
--- Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
The flavonoids and polyphenols aren't tied up with
the caffeine, are
they? I've been drinking decaffeinated green tea in
the mornings for
some time now. (Mostly I want a hot beverage, and
herbal tea is now
somehow too decadent for morning
Adam C. Lipscomb wrote:
According to labor statistics, productivity for American
workers continues to climb. I can understand how that
is measured for industries in which there is a measurable
*thing* produced, such as cars or toasters, but how do
those statistics get determined for
on 19/12/02 1:11 am, Jon Gabriel at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
...and on a Mac?
(Some of us would like to play hooky at work. :-)
Jon
On Mac OS X, open a terminal window and type telnet mud.sloansteady.com
2102 (without the quotes). Much the same idea on Classic, although I can't
remember
On Wed, Dec 18, 2002 at 09:36:16PM -0500, Erik Reuter wrote:
My first reaction is -- every company produces a measurable thing (or is
working towards it). That thing is money = revenue = sales. Everything
is fungible to an economist or a finance guy. So, to first order, I
would think
On Wed, Dec 18, 2002 at 09:19:07PM -0600, Steve Sloan II wrote:
Adam C. Lipscomb wrote:
According to labor statistics, productivity for American
workers continues to climb. I can understand how that
is measured for industries in which there is a measurable
*thing* produced, such as cars or
Hey Damon...What was your 'brief flirtation' with the army? What are you
doing now?
I was in the Army for a few years?
What am I doing now? I was working for Dun Bradstreet but I got canned a
few months ago. Looking for something else now...
Damon.
I'd also recommend anything by Guy Gavriel Kay. His later stuff is
best, but a Swords'n'Sorcery fanatic would better start with _Tigana_.
He writes fantasy, without the coming of age, promised a great destiny
crap that makes Fantasy seem like a geek's Harlequin romance.
I dunno, of all the
I was looking at ways of cutting down the volume of mail myself, and
am wondering: if I only select a couple of filters, such as the brin and
scouted filter, from the list options and don't select the unfiltered mail,
would I see replies to things where I've changed the brin as you
describe?
How
Dee wrote:
Yesterday in NC the 99th anniversary of motorized flight to
kick off a year of celebrations until the 100th anniversary.
99 different planes (that capture the evolution of flight) flew
over the Wright Brothers memorial- would've been pretty cool
to see.
Maybe next year they can
Is there a list somewhere of the aircraft used in this event?
Damon.
Damon Agretto
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum.
http://www.geocities.com/garrand.geo/index.html
Now Building: Italeri's Merkava
Hi all,
Maybe y'all missed my question in my (in)famous return message, so I'll
repost here for the benefit of the guilty :P
I need to know the formula used to calculate flight time for a spacecraft
using the acceleration/deceleration method of space travel. Anyone know it?
Damon.
Damon wrote:
Hi all,
Maybe y'all missed my question in my (in)famous return message, so I'll
repost here for the benefit of the guilty :P
I need to know the formula used to calculate flight time for a spacecraft
using the acceleration/deceleration method of space travel. Anyone know it?
In a message dated 12/18/2002 9:42:16 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Yesterday in NC the 99th anniversary of motorized flight to
kick off a year of celebrations until the 100th anniversary.
99 different planes (that capture the evolution of flight) flew
over
Julia Thompson wrote:
Damon wrote:
Hi all,
Maybe y'all missed my question in my (in)famous return message, so I'll
repost here for the benefit of the guilty :P
I need to know the formula used to calculate flight time for a spacecraft
using the acceleration/deceleration method of space
At 12:48 AM 12/19/02 +, Alberto Monteiro wrote:
Gary Nunn wrote:
Just looking over the previous years and I can't believe that you missed
2001:Space Odyssey. Missing that one is almost Science Fiction blasphemy!
I know. But I couldn't get a date for it
Your wife wouldn't go with you,
At 09:36 PM 12/18/02 -0500, Erik Reuter wrote:
Everything is fungible to an economist or a finance guy.
Please! Watch your language!
--Ronn! :)
I always knew that I would see the first man on the Moon.
I never dreamed that I would see the last.
--Dr. Jerry Pournelle
At 08:49 PM 12/18/02 -0600, Julia Thompson wrote:
Alberto Monteiro wrote:
Julia Thompson wrote:
1 glass of red wine with a red meat meal assists in digestion and may
help with cholesterol issues. (Can't remember the source.)
Paul, in the Bible, in one of the Letters :-)
Can you point
At 11:48 PM 12/18/02 -0500, Damon wrote:
Hi all,
Maybe y'all missed my question in my (in)famous return message, so I'll
repost here for the benefit of the guilty :P
I need to know the formula used to calculate flight time for a spacecraft
using the acceleration/deceleration method of space
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