Re: Brin: LotR and Conservatives

2004-01-31 Thread Davd Brin
--- Gautam Mukunda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Davd Brin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: None of which changes the central fact an iota. FDR got rid of Wallace and replaced him with Truman for those very reasons. NATO, the MArshall plan and all of that were PUSHED BY DEMOCRATS (for the

Re: Brin: LotR and Conservatives

2004-01-31 Thread Jan Coffey
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Davd Brin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2 - Saddam would go next. 3 - The Saudi sheiks would piss in pants. We could tell them so far - because you are rich and play golf with our aristos - we have let you have BOTH homes in LAs Vegas and Jihad against out

Conseptual lines - Re: Brin: LotR and Conservatives

2004-01-31 Thread Jan Coffey
One can believe (as I do NOT) that a centralized autocratic government, possibly headed by a dictatorial leader, with economic and social regimentation is a good idea, without beleiving that anyone of a differnt race should die or be subjugated. On can have been a patriotic German in 1938 and

Re: Stephan King

2004-01-31 Thread Jim Sharkey
Robert Seeberger wrote: From: Jim Sharkey I hope I'm not seeing reference jokes where there aren't any Maru Loose reference to I Have No Mouth And I Must Scream You're on top of things Jim! Ah, good. I thought I felt my nerd-sense tingling on that one. :) Have you ever seen the version

My field is more academic, nyah, nyah, was: Re: Brin: LotR and Conservatives

2004-01-31 Thread Jim Sharkey
I prefer the expression My brain is bigger than yours, myself. If I could attach images, I'd add the picture of Brain Guy from MST3K. FWIW, this has been an entertaining little discourse. Well worth the price of admission of a few hours of reading. And at my billing rate, that's decent

UN members bribed?

2004-01-31 Thread Robert J. Chassell
According to a story from ABC News on 29 Jan 2004 http://abcnews.go.com/sections/WNT/Investigation/saddam_oil_vouchers_040129.html ABCNEWS has obtained an extraordinary list that contains the names of prominent people around the world who supported Saddam Hussein's regime and were

International Organizational Constitution?

2004-01-31 Thread Robert J. Chassell
[In a previous message, UN members bribed? I quoted from an ABC News story of 29 Jan 2004 that ... prominent people around the world ... supported Saddam Hussein's regime and were given oil contracts as a result. which leads to the question of whether anyone was bribed to persuade

Re: Stephan King

2004-01-31 Thread Julia Thompson
Jim Sharkey wrote: Robert Seeberger wrote: From: Jim Sharkey I hope I'm not seeing reference jokes where there aren't any Maru Loose reference to I Have No Mouth And I Must Scream You're on top of things Jim! Ah, good. I thought I felt my nerd-sense tingling on that one. :) Have you

Re: Frat boys? (was Re: Br!n: LotR and Conservatives)

2004-01-31 Thread Damon Agretto
Jim Pi Kappa Phi, Beta Alpha #569 Maru Heh. Damon, Chi Psi, Alpha Nu Delta #27 = Damon Agretto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum. http://www.geocities.com/garrand.geo/index.html Now Building:

Re: Brin: LotR and Conservatives

2004-01-31 Thread Damon Agretto
Clark has administrative experience. Rhodes scholar. Led the most complicated, delicately fragile and ultimately successful military alliance in all of our history to the most satisfying victory we ever had. I'm personally a Clark supporter as well, mainly on his career and record. Of

Re: Brin: LotR and Conservatives

2004-01-31 Thread Damon Agretto
Gautam, I don't have the time to adress this in full (I just got a teaching job on the side, and its proving more challenging than I had anticipated), but let me ask you this: what do you think would have happened if the Iraqi army proved to HAVE some spine, and decided to turn their cities into

Re: Stephan King

2004-01-31 Thread Jim Sharkey
Julia Thompson wrote: Jim Sharkey wrote: Has a signed, slipcased edition of the original City on the Edge of Forever script Maru Dang, I just have a paperback, and I haven't had it signed. To be honest, I bought this particular signed version from Borderlands Press ~9 years ago, I *think*

Re: Frat boys? (was Re: Br!n: LotR and Conservatives)

2004-01-31 Thread Jim Sharkey
Damon Agretto wrote: Damon, Chi Psi, Alpha Nu Delta #27 At least I'm not alone! Where'd you go to school, Damon? Jim NJIT alum Maru ___ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web!

Re: Conseptual lines - Re: Brin: LotR and Conservatives

2004-01-31 Thread Damon Agretto
difference - but _you should_. In the last three years 500 Americans have died smashing two fascist totalitarian dictatorships. In the 1940s tens of thousands died smashing three other fascist governments. Those governments were fascist. Calling the Americans that - whatever your

Re: Stephan King

2004-01-31 Thread Julia Thompson
Jim Sharkey wrote: It's quite nifty; a bibliophile like yourself would be set all a-drooling, I'm sure. :) Whaddya mean, bibliophile? I'm a bibliomaniac! :) Jim Occasionally suffers from fanboy disease Maru Same here, but I try to keep it under control around the folks I'm fans of

Student suspended for anti-Confederate flag petition

2004-01-31 Thread The Fool
TARPON SPRINGS, Fla. — A Tarpon Springs High School student has been suspended for 10 days for circulating an unauthorized petition to ban Confederate flag symbols at the Pinellas County school. http://www.post-gazette.com/breaking/20040130flagp6.asp - I Pledge Impertinence to the

The MATRIX Project

2004-01-31 Thread Gary Nunn
Where does transparency end and invasion of privacy begin? This federally funded database project tracks criminal and correctional history, motor vehicle, pilot and boat licenses and registrations, federal and local weapons and hunting licenses, voter registrations, public digitized photos

Re: Conceptual lines - EasterBrook

2004-01-31 Thread The Fool
From: Davd Brin [EMAIL PROTECTED] ^^ ^^^i^^ To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Which is what the right is now turning toward to the left to a degree. HimmlerCroft and His patriot Act I II. They are cementing their own power, and turning ever more

Re: Brin: LotR and Conservatives

2004-01-31 Thread Gautam Mukunda
--- Damon Agretto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm personally a Clark supporter as well, mainly on his career and record. Of all the Dems right now, I think he has the best chance of balancing internal administration with an understanding of the world situation. Damon. That's interesting,

Defense Reform

2004-01-31 Thread Gautam Mukunda
--- Damon Agretto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gautam, I don't have the time to adress this in full (I just got a teaching job on the side, and its proving more challenging than I had anticipated), but let me ask you this: what do you think would have happened if the Iraqi army proved to HAVE

RE: International Organizational Constitution?

2004-01-31 Thread Bryon Daly
From: Robert J. Chassell [EMAIL PROTECTED] I made the point that ... institutions must not only be impervious to the bribery of their members, they must also be seen as being impervious. I completely agree. As a beginning, for a new international institution, I suggest A three

Re: Defense Reform

2004-01-31 Thread Damon Agretto
Couple things: If the Iraqis tried to challenge the Allies in the open we would have destroyed them in whole and in parts, just as we did in GW1. The Iraqis obviously knew this, so they wisely tried not to challenge the US forces. That much we're in agreement on. However, if instead they

Re: Brin: LotR and Conservatives

2004-01-31 Thread Damon Agretto
That's interesting, Damon. You are _literally_ the first person with military experience I've communciated with who thinks that Clark should be allowed in the White House on anything other than a public tour. Did you encounter him while you were in the service? Nope. Damon. =

Re: Brin: LotR and Conservatives

2004-01-31 Thread Davd Brin
--- Damon Agretto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's interesting, Damon. You are _literally_ the first person with military experience I've communciated with who thinks that Clark should be allowed in the White House on anything other than a public tour. Did you encounter him while you

Re: Defense Reform

2004-01-31 Thread Nick Lidster
Gautam, I too have far less expertise then Damon , however as you put it, the army of today are better tehn teh army that fought in the Gulf war, Wrong IMO. The Gulf War army was teh WW3 army of europe that had been training for the ultimate show down between the Allies and the Commies. on the

Re: Doing Business With The Enemy

2004-01-31 Thread Bemmzim
In a message dated 1/29/2004 9:50:45 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Maybe. If so he is fairly unique among dictators. Saddam Hussein and Kim Jong Il, to pick two, are unlikely to have been influenced by access to the world economy. And if that had really been enough,

Re: Doing Business With The Enemy

2004-01-31 Thread Bemmzim
In a message dated 1/29/2004 9:50:45 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Maybe. If so he is fairly unique among dictators. Saddam Hussein and Kim Jong Il, to pick two, are unlikely to have been influenced by access to the world economy. And if that had really been enough,

SCOUTED: Eaten Alive!

2004-01-31 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
The V471 Tauri system comprises a white dwarf star (the primary) in a close orbit - one thirtieth of the distance between Mercury and the Sun - with a normal Sun-like star (the secondary). The white dwarf star was once a star several times as massive as the Sun. Chandra data on this system

SCOUTED: The Word Spy for 01/29/2004 -- paracopyright

2004-01-31 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
paracopyright (PAYR.uh.kawp.ee.ryt) n. A set of non-traditional copyright-related principles, practices, and laws that exist alongside and attempt to extend traditional copyright protection. Also: para-copyright. - Example Citations

Re: Brin: LotR and Conservatives

2004-01-31 Thread Bemmzim
In a message dated 1/29/2004 10:19:08 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: And yet, where is the left-wing plan for fighting terroism and enhancing homeland security? Where were the right wing theorists before 9/11? What did the Bush adminstration do with the

Re: Brin: LotR and Conservatives

2004-01-31 Thread Bemmzim
I might respond to this further, but I'm not sure it's possible to have a reasonable discussion. I would ask one thing, though. You criticize the lack of military service in the Bush Administration a great deal. Donald Rumsfeld was an active duty fighter pilot (ROTC at Princeton). I am

Re: Brin: LotR and Conservatives

2004-01-31 Thread Bemmzim
In a message dated 1/30/2004 8:27:55 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: No Child Left Behind This has been such a great success. Where is the money to back this slogan. The republicans control congress and the white house. Where are the progrrams behind the empty slogans?

SCOUTED: Houston

2004-01-31 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A58473-2004Jan28.html?nav=hptop_tb ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Brin: LotR and Conservatives

2004-01-31 Thread Bemmzim
In a message dated 1/30/2004 11:30:57 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: As for George Soros, it's easy to demonify, but I'll match his record at philanthopy against W's pals. Soros went into eastern europe and spent billions stabilizing and helping places like Poland,

Re: Brin: LotR and Conservatives

2004-01-31 Thread Bemmzim
public universities This? medical research How much has the NIH budget gone up under Bush? What happened to it under Regan and Bush senior? exploring space The GI Bill was passed by a Congress dominated by which party? opposing fascism and defeating Hitler You think the GOP

Re: Left Vs Right Handedness

2004-01-31 Thread Bemmzim
In a message dated 1/30/2004 2:55:24 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: think would also partially explain the tendency towards right-handedness, which effects which side of the body a baby would normally be held. Uh- right handedness is related to the normal asymmetry of the

Re: Brin: LotR and Conservatives

2004-01-31 Thread Bemmzim
In a message dated 1/30/2004 9:57:15 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You mean American political history? I have a degree in Government, I probably know something about it. Not to butt in but he was talking about the specific statements you made not about american

Re: Frat boys? (was Re: Br!n: LotR and Conservatives)

2004-01-31 Thread Jim Sharkey
Damon Agretto wrote: At least I'm not alone! Where'd you go to school, Damon? Penn State I remember seeing our Penn State chapter at a regional meeting. Twenty white guys wearing khakis, blue oxford shirts, blue blazers and penny loafers. Talk about fitting the stereotype. :) Jim What

Re: Irregulars Question: raising the dead in the sims

2004-01-31 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Steve Sloan II wrote: My 10-year-old daughter accidentally killed my 4-year-old's character. Is there any way to raise de dead? Maybe you can generate a red-headed lesbian witch character to do it. ;-) There are too many lesbian characters in The Sims. Last time, there were 4 naked women in

Re: SCOUTED: Houston

2004-01-31 Thread Kevin Tarr
At 09:19 PM 1/31/2004, you wrote: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A58473-2004Jan28.html?nav=hptop_tb Can we start calling you The Ronn! like the other list member who posits links with no info about why we might want to read them? Course, I don't read The Idiot's posts anyway

Re: Frat boys? (was Re: Br!n: LotR and Conservatives)

2004-01-31 Thread Kevin Tarr
At 01:01 PM 1/31/2004, you wrote: At least I'm not alone! Where'd you go to school, Damon? Penn State Damon Cool! Is it possible we are the first two list people to have attended the same college? (But I went to PS Harrisburg). Maybe not, I think the people who started the list were

Re: SCOUTED: Advice for CS TAs

2004-01-31 Thread Julia Thompson
Ronn!Blankenship wrote: 2.If your students are prone to reading the school paper in class, try taking out a full page ad in the paper informing them that they are going to flunk your class. What if someone is just discreetly doing the crossword puzzle, one clue about every 2 minutes or so?

Re: SCOUTED: Houston

2004-01-31 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 09:51 PM 1/31/04, Kevin Tarr wrote: At 09:19 PM 1/31/2004, you wrote: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A58473-2004Jan28.html?nav=hptop_tb Can we start calling you The Ronn! like the other list member who posits links with no info about why we might want to read them? Course, I

Re: Frat boys? (was Re: Br!n: LotR and Conservatives)

2004-01-31 Thread Damon Agretto
Cool! Is it possible we are the first two list people to have attended the same college? (But I went to PS Harrisburg). Well I was out at Main of course...started there as a Freshman... Ever go to Snow Shoe, Lock Haven, or Renovo? If yes, I apologize. Never went there. Never really left

Re: SCOUTED: Houston

2004-01-31 Thread Julia Thompson
Ronn!Blankenship wrote: Thought Some Of The Texans Here Might Want To Weigh In Maru I don't get to Houston very often. I think there was only one year I went there more than once, in fact. So my opinion doesn't count for much. Except that I correct the person who says the most beautiful

Re: Frat boys? (was Re: Br!n: LotR and Conservatives)

2004-01-31 Thread Julia Thompson
Kevin Tarr wrote: At 01:01 PM 1/31/2004, you wrote: At least I'm not alone! Where'd you go to school, Damon? Penn State Damon Cool! Is it possible we are the first two list people to have attended the same college? (But I went to PS Harrisburg). Maybe not, I think the

Re: Frat boys? (was Re: Br!n: LotR and Conservatives)

2004-01-31 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: Jim Sharkey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 8:05 PM Subject: Frat boys? (was Re: Br!n: LotR and Conservatives) Davd Brin wrote contemptuously of: Frat boys. What's wrong with being a frat boy? Isn't brotherhood,

Re: christianism is evil, why it must be eradicated

2004-01-31 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: Doug Pensinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2004 7:42 PM Subject: Re: christianism is evil, why it must be eradicated Many moons ago, I wrote: Dan Minette wrote: FWIW, I just saw a census

Re: Frat boys? (was Re: Br!n: LotR and Conservatives)

2004-01-31 Thread Jim Sharkey
Damon Agretto wrote: Are you the guys nicknamed Skull? Not that I know of. Jim ___ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! ___

Re: SCOUTED: Houston

2004-01-31 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2004 10:41 PM Subject: Re: SCOUTED: Houston Ronn!Blankenship wrote: Thought Some Of The Texans Here Might Want To Weigh In Maru I don't get to

Re: SCOUTED: Houston

2004-01-31 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 10:59 PM 1/31/04, Dan Minette wrote: I've lived in Houston for 19 out of the last 22 years I spent a week there one week. -- Ronn! :) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: SCOUTED: Houston

2004-01-31 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: Ronn!Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2004 11:13 PM Subject: Re: SCOUTED: Houston At 10:59 PM 1/31/04, Dan Minette wrote: I've lived in Houston for 19 out of the last 22 years I

Re: SCOUTED: Houston

2004-01-31 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 11:34 PM 1/31/04, Dan Minette wrote: - Original Message - From: Ronn!Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2004 11:13 PM Subject: Re: SCOUTED: Houston At 10:59 PM 1/31/04, Dan Minette wrote: I've lived in Houston for 19

Re: SCOUTED: Houston

2004-01-31 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: Ronn!Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2004 12:18 AM Subject: Re: SCOUTED: Houston At 11:34 PM 1/31/04, Dan Minette wrote: - Original Message - From: Ronn!Blankenship [EMAIL

Re: SCOUTED: Houston

2004-01-31 Thread Doug Pensinger
Ronn! wrote: Here's another opinion: http://www.canada.com/national/nationalpost/news/comment/story.html?id=d8f662bb-b354-4e05-9dfe-f2f9117f96fd Adds for prostitution? Pornogrification? Someone want to explain the last paragraph to me? This weekend's Super Bowl halftime show will be a salute