Re: SCOUTED: Hotel Lost Liberty
On 6/29/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 6/29/2005 2:59:57 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If a burglar is someone guilty of burglary, if a glutton is someone guilty of gluttony ... then God is an iron. -- Spider Robinson (1948 - ), Canadian science fiction writer.** **With more talent and less ego than Sawyer. Met Sawyer this past weekend - didn't seem more ego prone than most writers and I am very impressed with his Human/Hominid trilogy. News note if the UN behaved like the US: The UN today seized the island of Malta to dismantle it as it interfered with a direct shipping route to the Suez Canal. Vilyehm Apropos of Malta and large bureaucracies the recently defeated EU new Constitution had a protocol of understandings regarding Malta that had detailed breakdowns of handling Malta vacation properties of different values. The REAL EU PREAMBLE according to EU leftists - We the government bureaucrats and large businesses of the European Union in order to promote the general welfare and establish universal taxing and trade authorities hereby establish this Constitution and all agreements, protocols and understandings herein considered incorporated to ensure the blessings of lifetime jobs and increased profits to us the real rulers. -- Gary Denton http://www.apollocon.org June 24-26, 2005 Easter Lemming Blogs http://elemming.blogspot.com http://elemming2.blogspot.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: SCOUTED: Hotel Lost Liberty
From: Gary Denton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com Subject: Re: SCOUTED: Hotel Lost Liberty Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 01:02:41 -0500 On 6/29/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 6/29/2005 2:59:57 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If a burglar is someone guilty of burglary, if a glutton is someone guilty of gluttony ... then God is an iron. -- Spider Robinson (1948 - ), Canadian science fiction writer.** **With more talent and less ego than Sawyer. Met Sawyer this past weekend - didn't seem more ego prone than most writers and I am very impressed with his Human/Hominid trilogy. I've only read Calculating God, but it was more than enough for me to label him a fairly decent writer all the same. -Twavis _ MSN® Calendar keeps you organized and takes the effort out of scheduling get-togethers. http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-capage=byoa/premxAPID=1994DI=1034SU=http://hotmail.com/encaHL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines Start enjoying all the benefits of MSN® Premium right now and get the first two months FREE*. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: What is religion (was Re: Religion and social capital)
Tue, 28 Jun 2005 20:16:13 -0400 Maru Dubshinki wrote: on Wed, 29 Jun 2005 00:20:49 +0100 William Goodall wrote: On 27 Jun 2005, at 5:49 am, Warren Ockrassa wrote: Though there are correlates. Loosely, the Kama Sutra and the Christian sacrament/communion can fall into those categories. One is sex for the purpose of interaction with deity; the other is ritual deicide/cannibalism. Eat the enemy to get his power; eat the god to become immortal. I think the Christian sacrament is more like ca-nibble-ism because those wafers are really tiny :) It would be a whole lot more fun if they transubstantiated some nice BBQ... (How delicious, this thread is still running). William, I looked this up; and in order to be Kosher (sorry) the BBQ would have to be made of human flesh from a willing victim. (plus you'd have to get it approved by Rome) -- You think far too small, my dear William. Just imagine all the time a God-fearing Catholic could save if they got *themselves* transubstaniated! Uh, I kinda thought this was purported to be the whole *point* of christianity. Dating back 1900change years ago I believe. ~Maru skip straight to the big finale, neh? As a R.C. myself, I really find this ritual deicide/cannabalism thing really appealing. It's so mammilian in it's character. Like breast feeding. Only a trancendant god is so transcendent that *It* can totally give *Itself* via obliteration to the nourishment of *It's* children and not even be bothered by it in the long run. In addition, we have the archetypical modus of human interaction (that of food sharing) elevated to the status of transcendence itself. very cool.It might be *only* a symbol but I believe it's a darn good one. Now Catholics also have ritual sex for the purposes of interacting with a diety. It is called marriage. (references available upon request) Some feminists have decride marriage as ritualized prostitution and I would say , they probably have a point. While the sex itself is not usually ritualized (except by the most *daring*:)) it's placement in society as an Institution makes it defacto ritualized. Or so it would seem. In addition, this ritualization does also seem to be a primary architype, much like food sharing behaviors. It crosses cultural boundaries and predates the christian eras. LeonardJMatusik [EMAIL PROTECTED] A bad thing done for a good cause is still a bad thing. It's why so few people slap their political opponents. That, and because slapping looks so silly. - Randy Cohen. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l - Yahoo! Sports Rekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy Football ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Admin info
On Wed, 29 Jun 2005, Ronn!Blankenship wrote: At 03:24 PM Wednesday 6/29/2005, Julia Thompson wrote: On Sun, 26 Jun 2005, Julia Thompson wrote: I have some of my stuff back up and running, but not Thunderbird yet, which is what I use to check the usual administration address. (Need to get all my mail folders, etc. moved over, and if I don't block out 30 minutes for it, it'll take 60, but if I block out the 30 minutes, it'll only take 10. Or so it seems to go.) Don't bet on the latter. Bet on the former being ridiculously optimistic, especially if you total up the time from all of the multiple times you will have to repeat the process until it works correctly (and it may not be obviously working incorrectly for several hours/days//weeks until suddenly everything comes to a screeching halt). (This applies to _any_ task involving computers. Especially the ones which are obviously so simple and straightforward that they should take no more than 10 minutes.) I went to check the e-mail on the web, and the password isn't working. :) So no getting it all in shape until I have a working password (I'm sleeping with the admin, though, so I figure I can get it taken care of before too much longer) I'll have that up tomorrow evening or sometime Friday. (Got a date with my hubby tonight -- married 14 years ago today!) Congratulations! Happy anniversary! And I still need to install the camera software and the genealogy software, but that'll wait until the mail stuff is up and running properly. :) IOW, maybe sometime in the fall¹ . . . (¹Note that a year is not specified.) Voice Of Experience Maru 1) Genealogy software, maybe. About all I have to do is beat on the cousin who gave us a database about at least one DOB being totally wrong, maybe more stuff, besides. But I have to find the disk first. 2) Can't download pictures from the camera without having that software installed, and as soon as I find the disk, there I am. Really. I think it's somewhere on my desk (Hey, the Palm software was, and I *had* to have that up and running yesterday to extract some info as to whether or not an appointment had been made for yesterday afternoon, so's I could be ready for it if it had been scheduled for then.) Gotta go play with Sam for awhile while his siblings are napping. :) Julia ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Fwd: NASA RESEARCHERS DISCOVER PLANET WITH LARGEST SOLID CORE
Erica Hupp Headquarters, Washington June 30, 2005 (Phone: 202/358-1237) RELEASE: 05-169 NASA RESEARCHERS DISCOVER PLANET WITH LARGEST SOLID CORE NASA researchers recently discovered the largest solid core ever found in an extrasolar planet, and their discovery confirms a planet formation theory. For theorists, the discovery of a planet with such a large core is as important as the discovery of the first extrasolar planet around the star 51 Pegasi in 1995, said Shigeru Ida, theorist from the Tokyo Institute of Technology, Japan. When a consortium of American, Japanese and Chilean astronomers first looked at this planet, they expected one similar to Jupiter. None of our models predicted that nature could make a planet like the one we are studying, said Bun'ei Sato, consortium member and postdoctoral fellow at Okayama Astrophysical Observatory, Japan. Scientists have rarely had opportunities like this to collect such solid evidence about planet formation. More than 150 extrasolar planets have been discovered by observing changes in the speed of a star, as it moves toward and away from Earth. The changes in speed are caused by the gravitational pull of planets. This planet also passes in front of its star and dims the starlight. When that happens, we are able to calculate the physical size of the planet, whether it has a solid core, and even what its atmosphere is like, said Debra Fischer. She is consortium team leader and professor of astronomy at San Francisco State University, Calif. The planet, orbiting the sun-like star HD 149026, is roughly equal in mass to Saturn, but it is significantly smaller in diameter. It takes just 2.87 days to circle its star, and the upper atmosphere temperature is approximately 2,000 degrees Fahrenheit. Modeling of the planet's structure shows it has a solid core approximately 70 times Earth's mass. This is the first observational evidence that proves the core accretion theory about how planets are formed. Scientists have two competing but viable theories about planet formation. In the gravitational instability theory, planets form during a rapid collapse of a dense cloud. With the core accretion theory, planets start as small rock-ice cores that grow as they gravitationally acquire additional mass. Scientists believe the large, rocky core of this planet could not have formed by cloud collapse. They think it must have grown a core first, and then acquired gas. This is a confirmation of the core accretion theory for planet formation and evidence that planets of this kind should exist in abundance, said Greg Henry, an astronomer at Tennessee State University, Nashville. He detected the dimming of the star by the planet with his robotic telescopes at Fairborn Observatory in Mount Hopkins, Arizona. Support for this research came from NASA, the National Astronomical Observatory of Japan and the National Science Foundation. A paper about this discovery was accepted for publication in the Astrophysical Journal. The paper, supporting materials and illustrations are available on the Internet at: http://tauceti.sfsu.edu/n2k/ For information about NASA and agency programs on the Internet, visit: http://www.nasa.gov/home/index.html -end- * * * NASA press releases and other information are available automatically by sending an Internet electronic mail message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message (not the subject line) users should type the words subscribe press-release (no quotes). The system will reply with a confirmation via E-mail of each subscription. A second automatic message will include additional information on the service. NASA releases also are available via CompuServe using the command GO NASA. To unsubscribe from this mailing list, address an E-mail message to [EMAIL PROTECTED], leave the subject blank, and type only unsubscribe press-release (no quotes) in the body of the message. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Admin info
At 01:26 PM Thursday 6/30/2005, Julia Thompson wrote: 1) Genealogy software, maybe. About all I have to do is beat on the cousin who gave us a database about at least one DOB being totally wrong, Based on what? Frex, I have copies of three supposedly official documents (marriage certificate, WWI military records, census record) each of which gives a different YOB (while agreeing on the month and day) for my father's father . . . Complex Roots Maru -- Ronn! :) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Admin info
At 07:46 PM Thursday 6/30/2005, Julia Thompson wrote: On Thu, 30 Jun 2005, Ronn!Blankenship wrote: At 01:26 PM Thursday 6/30/2005, Julia Thompson wrote: 1) Genealogy software, maybe. About all I have to do is beat on the cousin who gave us a database about at least one DOB being totally wrong, Based on what? Frex, I have copies of three supposedly official documents (marriage certificate, WWI military records, census record) each of which gives a different YOB (while agreeing on the month and day) for my father's father . . . Complex Roots Maru Well, I've seen the birth certificate of the person in question. :) AFAIK there was no contemporarily-issued birth certificate for my grandfather . . . of course, he was born on a rural farm before the beginning of the 20th century . . . -- Ronn! :) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Admin info
On Thu, 30 Jun 2005, Ronn!Blankenship wrote: At 07:46 PM Thursday 6/30/2005, Julia Thompson wrote: On Thu, 30 Jun 2005, Ronn!Blankenship wrote: At 01:26 PM Thursday 6/30/2005, Julia Thompson wrote: 1) Genealogy software, maybe. About all I have to do is beat on the cousin who gave us a database about at least one DOB being totally wrong, Based on what? Frex, I have copies of three supposedly official documents (marriage certificate, WWI military records, census record) each of which gives a different YOB (while agreeing on the month and day) for my father's father . . . Complex Roots Maru Well, I've seen the birth certificate of the person in question. :) AFAIK there was no contemporarily-issued birth certificate for my grandfather . . . of course, he was born on a rural farm before the beginning of the 20th century . . . Let's just say that if the genealogy file given to me were put up on Rootsweb, about 80% of the people in it would have no info besides last name viewable by anyone besides the owner of it (Rootsweb hides data aside from last name for anyone assumed to be living, i.e. anyone under 70 without a date of death in the database) Julia ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Plot Holes: War of the worlds - SPOILERS
WARNING !!! MAJOR spoilers below S P O I L E R S P A C E I saw War of the Worlds tonight, and I really liked it except for a few major plot holes and inconsistencies. I don't usually pick apart plot holes, but these are bugging me 1. If the tripods were all buried hundreds of years ago, why didn't someone accidentally find at least one? 2. If the aliens were here hundreds of years ago, why didn't they take over the planet then, when there would have been no resistance? 3. Why didn't the aliens become infected with a virus (or bacteria) the first time they were here to bury the ships? ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Plot Holes: War of the worlds - SPOILERS
On Thu, 30 Jun 2005, Gary Nunn wrote: WARNING !!! MAJOR spoilers below S P O I L E R S P A C E I saw War of the Worlds tonight, and I really liked it except for a few major plot holes and inconsistencies. I don't usually pick apart plot holes, but these are bugging me 3. Why didn't the aliens become infected with a virus (or bacteria) the first time they were here to bury the ships? The virus or bacteria mutated between the time the ships were buried and now? That seems very plausible to me, anyway. Julia whose last trip to the theater was to see The Incredibles at full price (and worth every penny, too!) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
RE: Plot Holes: War of the worlds - SPOILERS
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Julia Thompson Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 12:08 AM To: Killer Bs Discussion Subject: Re: Plot Holes: War of the worlds - SPOILERS On Thu, 30 Jun 2005, Gary Nunn wrote: WARNING !!! MAJOR spoilers below S P O I L E R S P A C E I saw War of the Worlds tonight, and I really liked it except for a few major plot holes and inconsistencies. I don't usually pick apart plot holes, but these are bugging me 3. Why didn't the aliens become infected with a virus (or bacteria) the first time they were here to bury the ships? The virus or bacteria mutated between the time the ships were buried and now? That seems very plausible to me, anyway. Julia Ok, I could buy that, but why didn't they just stay the first time instead of burying ships and leaving? ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
RE: Plot Holes: War of the worlds - SPOILERS
On Fri, 1 Jul 2005, Gary Nunn wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Julia Thompson Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 12:08 AM To: Killer Bs Discussion Subject: Re: Plot Holes: War of the worlds - SPOILERS On Thu, 30 Jun 2005, Gary Nunn wrote: WARNING !!! MAJOR spoilers below S P O I L E R S P A C E I saw War of the Worlds tonight, and I really liked it except for a few major plot holes and inconsistencies. I don't usually pick apart plot holes, but these are bugging me 3. Why didn't the aliens become infected with a virus (or bacteria) the first time they were here to bury the ships? The virus or bacteria mutated between the time the ships were buried and now? That seems very plausible to me, anyway. Julia Ok, I could buy that, but why didn't they just stay the first time instead of burying ships and leaving? That, I could not tell you. :) Julia ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Plot Holes: War of the worlds - SPOILERS
Gary Nunn wrote: WARNING !!! MAJOR spoilers below S P O I L E R S P A C E I saw War of the Worlds tonight, and I really liked it except for a few major plot holes and inconsistencies. 2. If the aliens were here hundreds of years ago, why didn't they take over the planet then, when there would have been no resistance? 3. Why didn't the aliens become infected with a virus (or bacteria) the first time they were here to bury the ships? Not having seen it, maybe I shouldn't comment, but couldn't the ones burying the ships have died from bacteria? Could the advance party have been an invasion force first wave that came to set the equipment in place, but when they succumbed to the bacteria, the military chiefs on Mars were waiting for a signal which never came, and so it took all this time to mount a new attack? Cheers Russell C. --- This email (including any attachments) is confidential and copyright. The School makes no warranty about the content of this email. Unless expressly stated, this email does not bind the School and does not necessarily constitute the opinion of the School. If you have received this email in error, please delete it and notify the sender. --- GWAVAsig ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
I think I'm back
I think I'm back. Had some problems with copying mail folders to the right place, and I lost a few non-list e-mails in the process, but other than that, I think I'm back in business. If this piece of listmail goes to the right folder, that'll be a good start. :) Julia ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: I think I'm back
Julia Thompson wrote: I think I'm back. Had some problems with copying mail folders to the right place, and I lost a few non-list e-mails in the process, but other than that, I think I'm back in business. If this piece of listmail goes to the right folder, that'll be a good start. :) It did. :) Julia ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
