Re: A question about Contacting Aliens

2006-03-16 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 3/16/2006 8:46:42 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Instead, a tree of patron client relations would be dominated by "explosions". Fertile patrons will have lots of clients. Most of these client lines will die out relatively soon, but some will

Re: A question about Contacting Aliens

2006-03-16 Thread Trent Shipley
David Brin has many virtues, but he is hardly obsessive about editing for continuity. Contacting Aliens has a huge number of discrepancies. The discrepancies are internal, it contradicts itself, it contradicts things written by Brin, it contradicted all sorts of stuff from Gurps Uplift, 1st e

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2006-03-16 Thread PAT MATHEWS
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2006-03-16 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 07:36 PM Wednesday 3/15/2006, Robert Seeberger wrote: Ronn!Blankenship wrote: > At 10:33 AM Wednesday 3/15/2006, Dave Land wrote: >> This thing ends here: >> >> There's a spark of magic in your eyes >> Candyland appears each time you smile >> Never thought that fairy tales came true >> But the

Re: A question about Contacting Aliens

2006-03-16 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Jim Sharkey wrote: > I am not the Evil Overlord, I just command one Legion of Terror >>> >>>Yes, but that has to have some rewards? You know, pillaging >>>peasants, impressing pneumatic young women, that kind of thing, >>>right? >> >> Yes :-) > > Sweet! Where can a sapient sign up for this d

Re: A question about Contacting Aliens

2006-03-16 Thread dcaa
Well, *some* data, that's true, but it's hardly IMHO what I would term as "reliable." In my example, FREX, can we reliably identify who the Sea Peoples are, or have a discussion on Daily Life of Sumeria? Just IMHO, a listing of kings and who they conquered this season does not constitute reliabl

Re: A question about Contacting Aliens

2006-03-16 Thread Jim Sharkey
Alberto Monteiro wrote: >Jim Sharkey wrote: >> Also, from strictly a "this is an awe-filled universe" point of >>view, I *like* the idea of races such as the Tothtoon and Krallnith >>still being out there and having a legacy that stretches over half- >>a- billion years. It gives the Four Galaxi

Re: A question about Contacting Aliens

2006-03-16 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 3/16/2006 1:02:53 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Maybe it's ok to have _one_ ancient race, but the problem is _too many_ ancient races. Worse: these races have just one client, and this client was uplifted some 500 My after the 1st race. This does

Re: A question about Contacting Aliens

2006-03-16 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Damon Agretto wrote: > > Sorry, I definitely disagree that we have reliable written records > from 6000 or even 3000 years ago; the former pre-dates writing in > general, and the latter has huge gaps, depending on what you're > studying (who, exactly, were the Sea Peoples?) > But we have some d

Re: A question about Contacting Aliens

2006-03-16 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Jim Sharkey wrote: > > That's an interesting idea, and one I hadn't considered! However, as > they might say at Terragens training schools, you can't really take > human experience and overlay it onto Galactic experience. The > extrapolation of "generations" makes some logical sense, but the >

Re: Brin: A question about Contacting Aliens

2006-03-16 Thread Alberto Monteiro
David Brin wrote: > > Terrific discussion. Oh, if only I had spare time... > Stop blogging Alberto Monteiro PS: ok, I will remove the "Brin:" for this discussion... ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Brin: A question about Contacting Aliens

2006-03-16 Thread Jim Sharkey
David Brin wrote: >Terrific discussion. Oh, if only I had spare time... Bah, spare time is overrated. Come play hooky with us for a half hour; I mean, we're actually talking about your books for once! :-) Unless of course you're afraid of what the Brin list actually talking Brin might do to

Re: Brin: A question about Contacting Aliens

2006-03-16 Thread dcaa
Sorry, I definitely disagree that we have reliable written records from 6000 or even 3000 years ago; the former pre-dates writing in general, and the latter has huge gaps, depending on what you're studying (who, exactly, were the Sea Peoples?) We really only start to get reliable records only i

Re: Brin: A question about Contacting Aliens

2006-03-16 Thread Jim Sharkey
Alberto Monteiro wrote: >If you replace "race" by "person" and "galactic society" by >"human society", you will see that 3,000 "generations" would take us >back to 100,000 years ago - and that 95% of this time is lost in >myth, speculation and (rare) scientific studies. The same goes for >Gala

Re: Brin: A question about Contacting Aliens

2006-03-16 Thread David Brin
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Re: Brin: A question about Contacting Aliens

2006-03-16 Thread David Brin
Terrific discussion. Oh, if only I had spare time... ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Brin: A question about Contacting Aliens

2006-03-16 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Jim Sharkey wrote: > >> The reason was that the book was _initially_ made with a much longer >> lifespan for each race [with races living for hundreds of millions, >> or even thousands of millions of years] > > See, that makes a little more sense to me, in that it grants a lot > more stability

Re: Brin: A question about Contacting Aliens

2006-03-16 Thread Jim Sharkey
Alberto Monteiro wrote: >The reason was that the book was _initially_ made with a much longer >lifespan for each race [with races living for hundreds of millions, >or even thousands of millions of years] See, that makes a little more sense to me, in that it grants a lot more stability to the F

"The final word is Hooray!"

2006-03-16 Thread Nick Arnett
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Re: Brin: A question about Contacting Aliens

2006-03-16 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Jim Sharkey wrote: > > After finishing up GURPS Uplift, I took another look at _Contacting > Aliens_. And while it was fun to read again and check out the pics, > etc., and it's cool how it's laid out like a "how to" book for > Terragens agents dealing with Galactics, I noticed a substantial >

Re: A question about Contacting Aliens

2006-03-16 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 3/16/2006 6:34:54 AM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: After finishing up GURPS Uplift, I took another look at _Contacting Aliens_. And while it was fun to read again and check out the pics, etc., and it's cool how it's laid out like a "how to" book fo

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2006-03-16 Thread The Fool
Now that the thugs got Borklito and Roberts they start ratcheting up their real agenda: <> The amendment, offered by Rep. Susan Phillips (R-Kansas City) removed "voluntary choice of contraception, including natural family planning" as one of

A question about Contacting Aliens

2006-03-16 Thread Jim Sharkey
After finishing up GURPS Uplift, I took another look at _Contacting Aliens_. And while it was fun to read again and check out the pics, etc., and it's cool how it's laid out like a "how to" book for Terragens agents dealing with Galactics, I noticed a substantial number of what *appear* to be