RE: Someone Must Tell Them
Robert G. Seeberger On 9/27/2006 2:01:04 PM, Richard Baker ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: One of the most striking things about the July 7 attacks was how utterly unterrified we all were. I know people who were very close to the bombing attacks and their response was uniformly calm and practical. In fact, those attacks seemed to cause more anxiety and fear on the other side of the Atlantic than they did here. I don't know how it may appear from over there, but on 9/11 I was angry. Heck I was angry on July 7 and after Madrid and Bali too. I think the only times I felt much in the way of fear was in regard to the Anthrax cases and the sniper case, those things just seemed more likely to grow where it could harm people I knew and cared about. I don't think I actually can remember anyone who was frightened, but I do remember lots of folks who were royally pissed off. You, of course, are the best judge of your reactions and emotions, but it is also a fact that fear often manifests itself as anger. Perhaps it was different in other parts of the country, but even if Americans do not uniformly project calm I would suggest that the fear that was sensed was coming from the administration and the news media's attempts to whip up a frenzy of ad sales. The administration certainly worked on selling the fear, the media definitely bought into it, but so did the citizens. At least that is how it appears from here. The massive support for the Iraq war, the frequent invocation of the mushroom cloud during arguments and debates in the run-up to the same war, all such things strongly suggested fear. Ritu ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
RE: Someone Must Tell Them
At 12:55 AM Sunday 10/1/2006, Ritu wrote: Warren Ockrassa wrote: Well, look at the bright side - at least Abu Ghraib isn't a scandal anymore. It is now the law... Which is of course the point. Bush wants to keep his ass from being impeached under an opposition congress. I've seen plenty of people, theoretically working for public good, subvert laws and institutions of a country. But this is the first time I've ever seen a near complete subversion of a constitution. Bush Co make the BJP look good, BJP? -- Ronn! :) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Shiny
Warren Ockrassa wrote: On Sep 30, 2006, at 7:00 AM, Reggie Bautista wrote: it's a full 40% brighter than the 20-inch model. So you're suggesting there's a correlation between waist size and IQ? [Obscurity 'R' Us] Hm. Depending on which way that goes, my recent surgery may be an experiment in artificial intelligence! ;) (I knew a blonde who would get her hair dyed a fairly light red, that went well with her coloring, and called it her experiment with artificial intelligence. I liked her.) Julia smaller waist once things are all healed up ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Someone Must Tell Them
Ronn!Blankenship wrote: At 12:55 AM Sunday 10/1/2006, Ritu wrote: Warren Ockrassa wrote: Well, look at the bright side - at least Abu Ghraib isn't a scandal anymore. It is now the law... Which is of course the point. Bush wants to keep his ass from being impeached under an opposition congress. I've seen plenty of people, theoretically working for public good, subvert laws and institutions of a country. But this is the first time I've ever seen a near complete subversion of a constitution. Bush Co make the BJP look good, BJP? It's a political party in India. I don't remember much about it, though. I'm sure Ritu will be more enlightening. :) Julia ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Infinities large and small (was Re: The Assumption Re: 9/11conspiracies)
On 9/30/06, Reggie Bautista [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There's a certain truthiness to that... That's because I was being probalogical! Nick -- Nick Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] Messages: 408-904-7198 ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Infinities large and small (was Re: The Assumption Re: 9/11conspiracies)
Nick Arnett wrote: On 9/30/06, Reggie Bautista [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There's a certain truthiness to that... That's because I was being probalogical! Are you sure that word is cromulent? Julia ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Infinities large and small (was Re: The Assumption Re: 9/11conspiracies)
In a message dated 10/1/2006 8:21:03 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Are you sure that word is cromulent? Julia Crom never lent Conan anything. Vilyehm ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
RE: Someone Must Tell Them
Ronn!Blankenship asked: I've seen plenty of people, theoretically working for public good, subvert laws and institutions of a country. But this is the first time I've ever seen a near complete subversion of a constitution. Bush Co make the BJP look good, BJP? Bhartiya Janata Party. A political party in India, and one I love to hate. They are the modern version of the Jan Sangh, and actually enjoyed a few years in power. BJP has traditionally been the political party of Brahmins but in mid 80s they hit upon the idea of 'Hindutva', and of a glorious Hindu nation. Since positivity doesn't bring immediate political dividends, they started off with maligning the muslims. They are pretty good at playing the fear card and circulated a lot of nonsense about how Hindus have been oppressed in India for centuries. I used to laugh at their obvious attempts [in my defense, I was in my early twenties back then], but with the destruction of the Babri Masjid, I realised that people actually bought into that nonsense. Once the media attention was focused on them, they scored plenty of points off their political opposition by charging them with 'appeasement of muslims'. BJP's tactics increased their popularity, and finally they were able to form a coalition government in the centre. At that point, their campaign against the minorities started in earnest. Christians and Muslims bore the brunt of it [Staines' murder, and the Gujarat riots were only the most public of their crimes]. However, the pogrom in Gujarat put off plenty of people, and when the BJP called for early elections is 2004, fully expecting to win, they were voted out of power. At least at the national level. A few states are still run by the BJP, and those are the states where anti-conversion laws are being passed. Really nasty people, propagating the most hateful of ideas under the guise of patriotism and national security. Its sister organisations, the RSS and the VHP, are equally bad. Ritu GCU Brief ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: 9/11 conspiracies (WAS RE: What should we believe when there is no reliab...
In a message dated 9/27/2006 5:44:45 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Which can take years or even decades. Another example from medicine that I am hard put to explain, except to think that no one _wanted_ to believe such a thing was so widespread, is something that I was still taught in the mid '80s: Gonorrhea is a sexually transmitted disease, except that in some cases where children must be sharing bathwater or toweling with infected adult(s), they can become infected. Big changes should take years to be accepted. They must prove themselves against the older established theory. In the process of exploring the new theories many unanticipated facts become known and science moves into anew direction. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
PC Software - prices high, little choice
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/5396488.stm Tesco is to launch a range of budget own-brand PC software, in a move that will pitch the grocery giant against the likes of Microsoft and Symantec. Tesco said it would offer six packages, including office software, security systems and a photo editing tool. Britain's biggest retailer said each title would cost less than £20, challenging what it described as the current high price of PC software. [...] 'When it comes to software there is little choice and prices are high - our new range of software changes this Daniel Cook', Tesco Obviously they didn't launch a range of Mac software since there is already a huge range of reasonably priced software for Macs. And they don't crash all the time either Maru -- William T Goodall Mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web : http://www.wtgab.demon.co.uk Blog : http://radio.weblogs.com/0111221/ What's the difference between OS X and Vista? Microsoft employees are excited about OS X... ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: PC Software - prices high, little choice
On 2 Oct 2006 at 0:16, William T Goodall wrote: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/5396488.stm Obviously they didn't launch a range of Mac software since there is already a huge range of reasonably priced software for Macs. No, obvipusly because they're a niche market segment for which there is simply not the installed base to interest a supermarket. And it's a utter ripoff, still, for office software. For PC *and* Mac (and Linux, and...), Open Office is £0.00 (Or £3.50 on CD and mailed from several places) And they don't crash all the time either Maru Oh? They just have security holes. Which Apple tries to hide. http://kierenmccarthy.co.uk/2006/09/26/apple-and-security-abuse-and- ignorance/#more-578 (Which lead to a DDoS attack on his blog...) AndrewC Dawn Falcon ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Week 4 NFL Picks
John D. Giorgis wrote: I was a poor 8-6 last week, taking me to 29 - 17 for the season. The Upset Special, though is 3-0 after the Saint came marching back in to New Orleans in a big way.Can I keep the streak going? . . . Dallas at Tennessee - On paper, this is a gross mismatch. But with the huge Terrell Owens distraction this week, Tennessee at home, and just possibly getting Kerry Collins fully up-to-speed finally, I sniff an upset. Pick: TITANS UPSET SPECIAL Apparently not. :P Vince Young has a lot to learn about the NFL. Although I was SO not surprised when he ran in the 2-point conversion. (Was anyone surprised?) The 2 interceptions just killed them. Julia ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: The Assumption Re: 9/11 conspiracies
On Sep 28, 2006, at 8:45 PM, jdiebremse wrote: --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mauro Diotallevi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My grandmother used to say two things about this depending on her mood; either Catholic heirarchy created this reverence of Mary because she's the most submissive role model those guys in Rome could find Which isn't exactly true. of course, her submission to God's will in The Annunciation story has long been a model for Christians, she nevertheless is one of the only people recorded in the Bible as not just openly disagreeing with Jesus, but as also succeeding in changing Jesus' (God's) mind! There's something to be said for that! And there's something rather profound to be said for the fact that God's mind can be changed. The stories of Abraham and Isaac and of the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah reveal a surprisingly human view of God. If you believe that the Bible is the inerrant revelation of God to man, these stories may present some problems. If you believe that the Bible is a human-authored story of their striving to understand God and their relationship to God, then they represent a particular stage in the development of that understanding. In any event, it suggests that, to the believer, prayer is not a waste of time if God is willing to be moved. Dave ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Infinities large and small (was Re: The Assumption Re: 9/11 conspiracies)
On Sep 29, 2006, at 7:56 PM, Nick Arnett wrote: On 9/29/06, Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, it's the SAME SIZE as each of the first two. THAT'S the one that took me a week or two to wrap my head around. :) No, they're not the same size. I'm sure of it. I counted them. Okay, I didn't count ALL of them. But I counted enough to feel good about my answer. And feeling good about answers is what mathematics is all about, isn't it? Mathematical Truthiness. Dave ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
