Re: Uplift at Yellowstone

2007-11-09 Thread Medievalbk
 
In a message dated 11/9/2007 11:43:03 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Yellowstone is rising.


The word "uplift" makes me think the tytlal have been
pouring bicarbonate of soda down Old Faithful.
 
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GWB

2007-11-09 Thread jon louis mann
i think we all can agree that GWB's motives are not out of benevolence.
   jon

I think I could find people who would not agree with that
-- Ronn!  :)
 
i meant on brinlist.  most of us would agree that bush's benevolent
form of compassionate conservatism is aimed at the wealthy class.  he
is far more interested in funding war rather than water resources, for
example:
http://news.search.yahoo.com/search/news?ei=UTF-8&p=bush+veto

Despite what this war cost our family -- it'll be three years tomorrow
since Wes was killed in action -- I'm willing to give Bush the benefit
of the doubt where it comes to motives.  He very well may believe he's
doing the right thing.  But I don't really know, nor do I much care. 
But I think I'd be treating myself badly if I didn't allow myself to
have some degree of
compassion, even for someone whose politics I despise.  That's where I
diverge from the anti-war folks who demonize the administration.
Nick

nick, i am very sorry you lost a family member.  like almost everyone
else i support our troops and grieve for all those who have suffered
from this war.  i have have brought many of our troops over there and
it weighs heavily on me that many did not come back.

i don't hate any republican and democrat who were duped into supporting
this war.  i do blame bush, cheney, rumsfeld and the neo-cons for the
unconstitutional practices they used to justify this war, and the
illegal tactics they contrived to manipulate many patriotic americans
to buy into the rationale for this war.
jon

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Re: GWB

2007-11-09 Thread Dave Land
On Nov 9, 2007, at 1:44 PM, jon louis mann wrote:

> i think we all can agree that GWB's motives are not out of  
> benevolence.
>jon
>
> I think I could find people who would not agree with that
> -- Ronn!  :)
>
> i meant on brinlist.  most of us would agree that bush's benevolent  
> form
> of compassionate conservatism is aimed at the wealthy class.  he is  
> far
> more interested in funding war rather than water resources, for  
> example:
>   http://news.search.yahoo.com/search/news?ei=UTF-8&p=bush+veto

I would be willing to bet that the President and his administration
believe that the things they are doing are benevolent. One may take
issue with their conception of benevolence: as George Lakoff terms it,
they favor a "stern father" approach to the problems of the world,
while others may follow the "nurturing parent" approach. Those who
favor one view may find the approach of the other to be malevolent at
worst, fool-hardy at best.

Dave

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Re: GWB

2007-11-09 Thread Nick Arnett
On Nov 9, 2007 1:44 PM, jon louis mann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> i think we all can agree that GWB's motives are not out of benevolence.


I think we can all agree that none of us acts out of any single motive...
and that there is no one who knows himself well enough to be aware of all of
his motives.

Despite what this war cost our family -- it'll be three years tomorrow since
Wes was killed in action -- I'm willing to give Bush the benefit of the
doubt where it comes to motives.  He very well may believe he's doing the
right thing.  But I don't really know, nor do I much care.  But I think I'd
be treating myself badly if I didn't allow myself to have some degree of
compassion, even for someone whose politics I despise.  That's where I
diverge from the anti-war folks who demonize the administration.

Nick

>
>   jon
>
> I think I could find people who would not agree with that
> -- Ronn!  :)
>
>  i meant on brinlist.  most of us would agree that bush's benevolent form
> of compassionate conservatism is aimed at the wealthy class.  he is far more
> interested in funding war rather than water resources, for example:
>  http://news.search.yahoo.com/search/news?ei=UTF-8&p=bush+veto
>
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GWB

2007-11-09 Thread jon louis mann
i think we all can agree that GWB's motives are not out of benevolence.
   jon

I think I could find people who would not agree with that
-- Ronn!  :)
   
  i meant on brinlist.  most of us would agree that bush's benevolent form of 
compassionate conservatism is aimed at the wealthy class.  he is far more 
interested in funding war rather than water resources, for example: 
  http://news.search.yahoo.com/search/news?ei=UTF-8&p=bush+veto

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Uplift at Yellowstone

2007-11-09 Thread Nick Arnett
http://unews.utah.edu/p/?r=102507-1

Yellowstone is rising.  This might help explain why we were lucky enough to
see a geyser at the Norris basin behave in an entirely new way when we were
there last year.  It had been a little bubbling thing for as long as there
were records, but the afternoon we came, it shot off a huge eruption that
lasted more than an hour.

I worked at Old Faithful in 1981... but I can't say that I noticed that it's
gotten higher. ;-)

If it decides to erupt, I want to be far, far away.  And west.

Nick

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Re: Salman Rushdie

2007-11-09 Thread William T Goodall

On 9 Nov 2007, at 06:47, Doug wrote:

> Has anyone read anything by Rushdie?  I went to a Rushdie lecture  
> tonight
> and he seems like a very interesting character.

I've read his first two novels _Grimus_ and _Midnight's Children_ and  
have the next two in my 'to be read' pile where they have been for the  
last 20+ years.

_Grimus_ is an above average fantasy novel. _Midnight's Children_ is a  
magical realist novel about the creation of modern India. Of the two I  
haven't read _The Satanic Verses_ is the one that got Rushdie a fatwah.

You should probably start with _Midnight's Children_ as it's his most  
highly regarded work and I found it very readable unlike his later  
stuff.


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