Re: US Doomed

2008-01-15 Thread William T Goodall
http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Huckabee_Amend_Constitution_to_meet_Gods_0115.html

Huckabee: Amend Constitution to be in 'God's standards'
David Edwards and Muriel Kane
The United States Constitution never uses the word God or makes  
mention of any religion, drawing its sole authority from We the  
People. However, Republican presidential candidate Mike Huckabee  
thinks it's time to put an end to that.

I have opponents in this race who do not want to change the  
Constitution, Huckabee told a Michigan audience on Monday. But I  
believe it's a lot easier to change the Constitution than it would be  
to change the word of the living god. And that's what we need to do --  
to amend the Constitution so it's in God's standards rather than try  
to change God's standards so it lines up with some contemporary view.

When Willie Geist reported Huckabee's opinion on MSNBC's Morning  
Joe,co-host Mika Brzezinski was almost speechless, and even Joe  
Scarborough couldn't immediately find much to say beyond calling it  
interesting,

Scarborough finally suggested that while he believes evangelicals  
should be able to talk politics ... some might find that statement  
very troubling, that we're going to change the Constitution to be in  
line with the Bible. And that's all I'm going to say.

Geist further noted of Huckabee that if someone without his charm,  
said that, he'd be dismissed as a crackpot, but he's Mike Huckabee  
and he's bascially the front-runner.





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Re: US Doomed

2008-01-15 Thread Nick Arnett
On Jan 15, 2008 12:23 PM, William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Huckabee_Amend_Constitution_to_meet_Gods_0115.html

 Huckabee: Amend Constitution to be in 'God's standards'
 David Edwards and Muriel Kane
 The United States Constitution never uses the word God or makes
 mention of any religion, drawing its sole authority from We the
 People. However, Republican presidential candidate Mike Huckabee
 thinks it's time to put an end to that.


Um... William, if Huckabee is elected president of my country, would you
have room for me and my family in yours?

In other words, I'd rather live with a rabid atheist than in a theocracy.

Nick

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Re: US Doomed

2008-01-15 Thread John Garcia
Amending the Constitution is not as easy as Huckabee may wish, (pun
intended) Gracias a Dios. See http://www.usconstitution.net/constam.html. If
elected, he won't be able to just wave his hand and have it done.

john

On Jan 15, 2008 4:06 PM, Nick Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Jan 15, 2008 12:23 PM, William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 
 http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Huckabee_Amend_Constitution_to_meet_Gods_0115.html
 
  Huckabee: Amend Constitution to be in 'God's standards'
  David Edwards and Muriel Kane
  The United States Constitution never uses the word God or makes
  mention of any religion, drawing its sole authority from We the
  People. However, Republican presidential candidate Mike Huckabee
  thinks it's time to put an end to that.


 Um... William, if Huckabee is elected president of my country, would you
 have room for me and my family in yours?

 In other words, I'd rather live with a rabid atheist than in a theocracy.

 Nick

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Re: US Doomed

2008-01-15 Thread Charlie Bell

On 16/01/2008, at 8:06 AM, Nick Arnett wrote:

 Um... William, if Huckabee is elected president of my country, would  
 you
 have room for me and my family in yours?

Plenty of room Down Under...

Charlie.
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Re: Planets in scale and size

2008-01-15 Thread Mauro Diotallevi
On 1/9/08, Robert Seeberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 http://www.5min.com/Video/Planets-in-scale-and-size-7884
 xponent
 Impressive Maru

Impressive indeed.

Obligatory second line.

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Re: US Doomed

2008-01-15 Thread Alberto Vieira Ferreira Monteiro
Nick Arnett wrote:

 Um... William, if Huckabee is elected president of my country, would you
 have room for me and my family in yours?

 In other words, I'd rather live with a rabid atheist than in a theocracy.

What makes you think it would be _easy_ to flee?

Alberto Monteiro

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Re: US Doomed

2008-01-15 Thread David Hobby
John Garcia wrote:
 Amending the Constitution is not as easy as Huckabee may wish, (pun
 intended) Gracias a Dios. See http://www.usconstitution.net/constam.html. If
 elected, he won't be able to just wave his hand and have it done.

Yes, but it's the thought that counts.

And that's scary!
---David

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Re: US Doomed

2008-01-15 Thread Jim Sharkey

Charlie Bell wrote:
Plenty of room Down Under...

Sure, nestled in right next to the various and sundry venomous 
arthropods, the sharks, the jellyfish and various other natural 
dangers.  Still, I think I'd prefer those over Huckabee.  :-)

Jim

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Re: US Doomed

2008-01-15 Thread John Garcia
Yeah, but Americans are always trying to make changes to and end run around
the Constitution, because something in it (or not in it) annoys them. Look
at things like free speech restrictions on college campuses or the hue and
cry every time some defendant's case is dismissed because of a bad search.
And it's Huckabee, for chrissakes. This is a guy who doesn't believe in
evolution. Should any of us be surprised that he wants to put his God, not
just God, but his, into the Constitution.

It is no accident that the 'establishment clause' is the very first thing
mentioned in the very first article of the Bill of Rights
-- David Saperstein

john

On Jan 15, 2008 5:47 PM, David Hobby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 John Garcia wrote:
  Amending the Constitution is not as easy as Huckabee may wish, (pun
  intended) Gracias a Dios. See http://www.usconstitution.net/constam.html.
 If
  elected, he won't be able to just wave his hand and have it done.

 Yes, but it's the thought that counts.

 And that's scary!
---David

 ROU  Amazing
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Re: US Doomed

2008-01-15 Thread Nick Arnett
On 1/15/08, John Garcia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 ... This is a guy who doesn't believe in
 evolution.


He apparently believes it's just fine for the Constitution to evolve a bit.
Or would that be devolve?

Nick


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Re: US Doomed

2008-01-15 Thread John Garcia
On Jan 15, 2008 7:21 PM, Nick Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 1/15/08, John Garcia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  ... This is a guy who doesn't believe in
  evolution.


 He apparently believes it's just fine for the Constitution to evolve a
 bit.
 Or would that be devolve?

 Nick


Devolve for sure. Huckabee is just another (albeit charismatic) politician
trying to remake the world they way he wants it to be. Alas, his world is
not the world I want to live in. I wouldn't leave the US if he won, but my
attitude would be (to quote some friends of mine)
Oh, it's on now mr fr!

john
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Re: US Doomed

2008-01-15 Thread Robert Seeberger

On 1/15/2008 6:58:55 PM, John Garcia ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 On Jan 15, 2008 7:21 PM, Nick Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  On 1/15/08, John Garcia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   ... This is a guy who
 doesn't believe in
   evolution.
 
 
  He apparently believes it's
 just fine for the Constitution to evolve a
  bit.
  Or would that be devolve?
 
  Nick
 
 
 Devolve for sure. Huckabee is just another (albeit charismatic)
 politician
 trying to remake the world they way he wants it to be. Alas, his 
 world is
 not the world I want to live in. I
 wouldn't leave the US if he won, but my
 attitude would be (to quote some friends of mine)
 Oh, it's
 on now mr fr!

Exactly why some interpret the second amendment the way they do, just 
for such occasions..and as a threat against such.
G

xponent
Judgment Day Maru
rob 


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Re: US Doomed

2008-01-15 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 15 Jan 2008 at 22:42, Alberto Vieira Ferreira Monteiro wrote:

 Nick Arnett wrote:
 
  Um... William, if Huckabee is elected president of my country, would you
  have room for me and my family in yours?
 
  In other words, I'd rather live with a rabid atheist than in a theocracy.
 
 What makes you think it would be _easy_ to flee?

Well, going North? Can't really close the border. Long border and all 
that.

AndrewC
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Re: US Doomed

2008-01-15 Thread Warren Ockrassa
On Jan 15, 2008, at 6:45 PM, Andrew Crystall wrote:

 Well, going North? Can't really close the border. Long border and all
 that.

I bet 30+ million Canadians, faced with the prospect of being overrun  
by SUV-driving, Starbucks-sucking weekend lib'rul Yanks,* would damned  
well find a way to close the border pretty fast.

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Re: Gmail

2008-01-15 Thread Doug Pensinger
Martin Lewis  wrote:


 Gmail is based on the records management philosophy that you shouldn't
 delete things. You can star or label things so that they are easy to
 find and the search feature is the best there is (understandably.)



I imagine that I'll delete stuff in some of my labels (commercial,
political, news) while keeping the stuff in others (brin-l, culture, friends
and family).

I'm pretty happy with the way its working so far.  Over the last two days I
got 34 spam messages 31 of which were intercepted by the spam filter and
_none_ of the filtered messages were legit.  The filtering isn't working
perfectly; sometimes even when a message is labeled it doesn't get filtered,
but it's very easy to manage the few that get left in the inbox.

Doug
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Re: Gmail

2008-01-15 Thread Doug Pensinger
Ronn!  wrote:


 And it saves time and trouble when you get a subpoena from the Feds . . .


Something tells me that if the Feds are after your ass, whether or not you
have archived mail isn't going to make a whole lot of difference.

Doug
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Re: US Doomed

2008-01-15 Thread Doug Pensinger
Nick wrote:


 Um... William, if Huckabee is elected president of my country, would you
 have room for me and my family in yours?

 What's the difference between Huckabee and Bush, other than Huckabee is
probably smarter and more articulate than most of his pets?

Doug
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Re: US Doomed

2008-01-15 Thread Doug Pensinger
John Garcia wrote:

 Amending the Constitution is not as easy as Huckabee may wish, (pun
 intended) Gracias a Dios. See http://www.usconstitution.net/constam.html.
 If
 elected, he won't be able to just wave his hand and have it done.


You know, a few years ago I would have said the same thing about official
torture, the incarceration of innocent people, disappearing people (aka
ordinary rendition), invasion without cause, etc. etc.

Doug
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