RE: Chicken and Egg

2008-07-16 Thread Curtis Burisch
You might not be aware, but the constant annoying security warnings in Vista are nothing more than 'security theatre' -- i.e. they make you feel safer, without actually doing anything meaningful. Vista is no more secure because of these annoying prompts -- coders with malicious intent just work

Re: Chicken and Egg

2008-07-16 Thread Charlie Bell
On 16/07/2008, at 11:47 AM, Nick Arnett wrote: While we're on the subject, AVG's LinkScanner has created a lot of misery for me and other people who do web analytics. I've pretty well decided never to use their products again. Problems which other software has also caused over the

Re: Chicken and Egg

2008-07-16 Thread Charlie Bell
On 16/07/2008, at 6:09 PM, Curtis Burisch wrote: You might not be aware, but the constant annoying security warnings in Vista are nothing more than 'security theatre' -- i.e. they make you feel safer, without actually doing anything meaningful. Vista is no more secure because of

Weekly Chat Reminder

2008-07-16 Thread William T Goodall
The Brin-L weekly chat has been a list tradition for over nine years. Way back on 27 May, 1998, Marco Maisenhelder first set up a chatroom for the list, and on the next day, he established a weekly chat time. We've been through several servers, chat technologies, and even casts of regulars over

Re: Chicken and Egg

2008-07-16 Thread Nick Arnett
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 4:48 AM, Charlie Bell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Problems which other software has also caused over the years. Problems which AVG have admitted, and they've disabled LinkScanner. I'm not aware of anything that has caused the kind of problems LinkScanner produced. One

Computer Security

2008-07-16 Thread John Garcia
There are other problems that have nothing to do with one O/S vs another. A disgruntled network engineer in San Francisco has apparently locked everyone out of the city's WAN. http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/07/14/BAOS11P1M5.DTLf john

Re: Computer Security

2008-07-16 Thread Lance A. Brown
Don't be get started on that SOB. He's giving all IT professionals a black eye with his antics. --[Lance] -- GPG Fingerprint: 409B A409 A38D 92BF 15D9 6EEE 9A82 F2AC 69AC 07B9 CACert.org Assurer ___

Re: Computer Security

2008-07-16 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
At 02:56 PM Wednesday 7/16/2008, John Garcia wrote: There are other problems that have nothing to do with one O/S vs another. A disgruntled network engineer in San Francisco has apparently locked everyone out of the city's WAN.

Re: Chicken and Egg

2008-07-16 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
At 06:35 PM Tuesday 7/15/2008, Lance A. Brown wrote: Ronn! Blankenship said the following on 7/15/2008 7:24 PM: Now how about an actually helpful response for those who do not have access to another computer at home? Well, how about this: Before plugging your new computer into a network

Re: Chicken and Egg

2008-07-16 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
At 08:12 PM Tuesday 7/15/2008, William T Goodall wrote: On 16 Jul 2008, at 00:24, Ronn! Blankenship wrote: At 07:56 AM Tuesday 7/15/2008, Lance A. Brown wrote: Charlie Bell said the following on 7/15/2008 4:47 AM: ...and for the 95% of home PC users who buy a PC at PC World or Walmart or

Re: Computer Security

2008-07-16 Thread Julia Thompson
Try removing the f at the end, see if that works for you. Julia On Wed, 16 Jul 2008, Ronn! Blankenship wrote: At 02:56 PM Wednesday 7/16/2008, John Garcia wrote: There are other problems that have nothing to do with one O/S vs another. A disgruntled network engineer in San

Re: Computer Security

2008-07-16 Thread Julia Thompson
On Wed, 16 Jul 2008, Ronn! Blankenship wrote: At 02:56 PM Wednesday 7/16/2008, John Garcia wrote: There are other problems that have nothing to do with one O/S vs another. A disgruntled network engineer in San Francisco has apparently locked everyone out of the city's WAN.

Re: Chicken and Egg

2008-07-16 Thread Lance A. Brown
Ronn! Blankenship said the following on 7/16/2008 7:13 PM: None of which means anything to the average non-technical person who is buying a computer for his/her kids to use for school or a grandmother finally buying a computer to view pictures of her grandchildren who live out of state, who

Re: Chicken and Egg

2008-07-16 Thread Kevin B. O'Brien
Ronn! Blankenship wrote: At 06:35 PM Tuesday 7/15/2008, Lance A. Brown wrote: Ronn! Blankenship said the following on 7/15/2008 7:24 PM: Now how about an actually helpful response for those who do not have access to another computer at home? Well, how about this: Before

Re: Chicken and Egg

2008-07-16 Thread Dave Land
On Jul 16, 2008, at 6:48 PM, Kevin B. O'Brien wrote: Ronn! Blankenship wrote: At 06:35 PM Tuesday 7/15/2008, Lance A. Brown wrote: Ronn! Blankenship said the following on 7/15/2008 7:24 PM: Now how about an actually helpful response for those who do not have access to another computer