Weekly Chat Reminder
The Brin-L weekly chat has been a list tradition for over ten years. Way back on 27 May, 1998, Marco Maisenhelder first set up a chatroom for the list, and on the next day, he established a weekly chat time. We've been through several servers, chat technologies, and even casts of regulars over the years, but the chat goes on... and we want more recruits! Whether you're an active poster or a lurker, whether you've been a member of the list from the beginning or just joined today, we would really like for you to join us. We have less politics, more Uplift talk, and more light-hearted discussion. We're non-fattening and 100% environmentally friendly... -(_() Though sometimes marshmallows do get thrown. The Weekly Brin-L chat is scheduled for Wednesday 3 PM Eastern/2 PM Central time in the US, or 7 PM Greenwich time. There's usually somebody there to talk to for at least eight hours after the start time. If no-one is there when you arrive just wait around a while for the next person to show up! If you want to attend, it's really easy now. All you have to do is send your web browser to: http://wtgab.demon.co.uk/~brinl/mud/ ..And you can connect directly from the NEW new web interface! -- William T Goodall Mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web : http://www.wtgab.demon.co.uk Blog : http://radio.weblogs.com/0111221/ This message was sent automatically using launchd. But even if WTG is away on holiday, at least it shows the server is still up. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Senate's contribution to the bail-out
As if the bailout itself weren't bad enough, HR 1424 is full of absurdities, such as section 503. We wouldn't want to mistakenly tax a child's arrow due to its lamination or shaft diameter, now would we? http://banking.senate.gov/public/_files/latestversionAYO08C32_xml.pdf SEC. 503. EXEMPTION FROM EXCISE TAX FOR CERTAIN WOODEN ARROWS DESIGNED FOR USE BY CHILDREN. (a) IN GENERAL.—Paragraph (2) of section 4161(b) is amended by redesignating subparagraph (B) as sub301 paragraph (C) and by inserting after subparagraph (A) the following new subparagraph: ‘‘(B) EXEMPTION FOR CERTAIN WOODEN ARROW SHAFTS.—Subparagraph (A) shall not apply to any shaft consisting of all natural wood with no laminations or artificial means of enhancing the spine of such shaft (whether sold separately or incorporated as part of a finished or unfinished product) of a type used in the manufacture of any arrow which after its assembly— ‘‘(i) measures 5⁄16 of an inch or less in diameter, and ‘‘(ii) is not suitable for use with a bow described in paragraph (1)(A).’’.(b) EFFECTIVE DATE.—The amendments made by this section shall apply to shafts first sold after the date of enactment of this Act. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Senate's contribution to the bail-out
At 02:45 PM Wednesday 10/1/2008, John Williams wrote: As if the bailout itself weren't bad enough, HR 1424 is full of absurdities, such as section 503. We wouldn't want to mistakenly tax a child's arrow due to its lamination or shaft diameter, now would we? http://banking.senate.gov/public/_files/latestversionAYO08C32_xml.pdf SEC. 503. EXEMPTION FROM EXCISE TAX FOR CERTAIN WOODEN ARROWS DESIGNED FOR USE BY CHILDREN. (a) IN GENERAL.Paragraph (22) of section 4161(b) is amended by redesignating subparagraph (B) as sub301 paragraph (C) and by inserting after subparagraph (A) the following new subparagraph: ââ(B) EXEMPTION FOR CERTAIN WOODEN ARROW SHAFTS.Subparagraaph (A) shall not apply to any shaft consisting of all natural wood with no laminations or artificial means of enhancing the spine of such shaft (whether sold separately or incorporated as part of a finished or unfinished product) of a type used in the manufacture of any arrow which after its assembly ââ(i) measures 5â16 of an inchh or less in diameter, and ââ(ii) is not suitable for use with a bow described in paragraph (1)(A).ââ.(b) EFFECTIVE DATE.The amendments made by this section shalll apply to shafts first sold after the date of enactment of this Act. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l So the bill gives taxpayers the shaft in more than one way . . . . . . ronn! :) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Senate's contribution to the bail-out
On Oct 1, 2008, at 2:45 PM, John Williams wrote: As if the bailout itself weren't bad enough, HR 1424 is full of absurdities, such as section 503. We wouldn't want to mistakenly tax a child's arrow due to its lamination or shaft diameter, now would we? http://banking.senate.gov/public/_files/latestversionAYO08C32_xml.pdf SEC. 503. EXEMPTION FROM EXCISE TAX FOR CERTAIN WOODEN ARROWS DESIGNED FOR USE BY CHILDREN. (a) IN GENERAL.—Paragraph (2) of section 4161(b) is amended by redesignating subparagraph (B) as sub301 paragraph (C) and by inserting after subparagraph (A) the following new subparagraph: ‘‘(B) EXEMPTION FOR CERTAIN WOODEN ARROW SHAFTS.—Subparagraph (A) shall not apply to any shaft consisting of all natural wood with no laminations or artificial means of enhancing the spine of such shaft (whether sold separately or incorporated as part of a finished or unfinished product) of a type used in the manufacture of any arrow which after its assembly— ‘‘(i) measures 5⁄16 of an inch or less in diameter, and ‘‘(ii) is not suitable for use with a bow described in paragraph (1)(A).’’.(b) EFFECTIVE DATE.—The amendments made by this section shall apply to shafts first sold after the date of enactment of this Act. So who is it that makes these wooden arrows again? And what state do they operate in, and how much excise tax are they wanting a break from? I'm sure following the money will lead to an interesting story .. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
HuffPo: Sarah Palin may be a better debater than (most) think
Folks, An insightful article (http://url.ie/qxw) in the Huffington Post suggests that despite Sarah Palin's sketchy performance in situations where knowledge and understanding of issues are required, she proves to be a much more skilled debater because, as Andrew Halcro, 2006 Alaska gubernatorial candidate, writes: I've debated Governor Palin more than two dozen times. And she's a master, not of facts, figures, or insightful policy recommendations, but at the fine art of the nonanswer, the glittering generality. Against such charms there is little Senator Biden, or anyone, can do. Perhaps Palin, like Bush before her, knows (instinctively or intentionally) that you don't win elections by being smarter or more prepared than the other guy, you win by being more appealing, by seeming more _like_ the audience and wanting to be _liked by_ them. Dave ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: HuffPo: Sarah Palin may be a better debater than (most) think
On 1 Oct 2008, at 23:35, Dave Land wrote: Folks, An insightful article (http://url.ie/qxw) in the Huffington Post suggests that despite Sarah Palin's sketchy performance in situations where knowledge and understanding of issues are required, she proves to be a much more skilled debater because, as Andrew Halcro, 2006 Alaska gubernatorial candidate, writes: I've debated Governor Palin more than two dozen times. And she's a master, not of facts, figures, or insightful policy recommendations, but at the fine art of the nonanswer, the glittering generality. Against such charms there is little Senator Biden, or anyone, can do. Perhaps Palin, like Bush before her, knows (instinctively or intentionally) that you don't win elections by being smarter or more prepared than the other guy, you win by being more appealing, by seeming more _like_ the audience and wanting to be _liked by_ them. People who know stuff are boring. Like school Maru -- William T Goodall Mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web : http://www.wtgab.demon.co.uk Blog : http://radio.weblogs.com/0111221/ Debunking bullshit is a thankless task. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: HuffPo: Sarah Palin may be a better debater than (most) think
On Oct 1, 2008, at 8:28 PM, William T Goodall wrote: On 1 Oct 2008, at 23:35, Dave Land wrote: Folks, An insightful article (http://url.ie/qxw) in the Huffington Post suggests that despite Sarah Palin's sketchy performance in situations where knowledge and understanding of issues are required, she proves to be a much more skilled debater because, as Andrew Halcro, 2006 Alaska gubernatorial candidate, writes: I've debated Governor Palin more than two dozen times. And she's a master, not of facts, figures, or insightful policy recommendations, but at the fine art of the nonanswer, the glittering generality. Against such charms there is little Senator Biden, or anyone, can do. Perhaps Palin, like Bush before her, knows (instinctively or intentionally) that you don't win elections by being smarter or more prepared than the other guy, you win by being more appealing, by seeming more _like_ the audience and wanting to be _liked by_ them. People who know stuff are boring. Like school Maru I can't help but picture a talking Sarah Palin doll, in the same vein as the Barbie Math is hard!! doll, with the same quote but in that nasal Alaska twang of hers .. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: HuffPo: Sarah Palin may be a better debater than (most) think
At 08:33 PM Wednesday 10/1/2008, Bruce Bostwick wrote: On Oct 1, 2008, at 8:28 PM, William T Goodall wrote: On 1 Oct 2008, at 23:35, Dave Land wrote: Folks, An insightful article (http://url.ie/qxw) in the Huffington Post suggests that despite Sarah Palin's sketchy performance in situations where knowledge and understanding of issues are required, she proves to be a much more skilled debater because, as Andrew Halcro, 2006 Alaska gubernatorial candidate, writes: I've debated Governor Palin more than two dozen times. And she's a master, not of facts, figures, or insightful policy recommendations, but at the fine art of the nonanswer, the glittering generality. Against such charms there is little Senator Biden, or anyone, can do. Perhaps Palin, like Bush before her, knows (instinctively or intentionally) that you don't win elections by being smarter or more prepared than the other guy, you win by being more appealing, by seeming more _like_ the audience and wanting to be _liked by_ them. People who know stuff are boring. Like school Maru I can't help but picture a talking Sarah Palin doll, in the same vein as the Barbie Math is hard!! doll, with the same quote but in that nasal Alaska twang of hers .. Missed _Doonesbury_ all last week, did you? http://www.gocomics.com/doonesbury/2008/09/23/?campid=0ssns=9; (the thread runs from Monday the 22nd (the day before the one in the link) through Saturday the 27th) Great Minds Think Alike Maru . . . ronn! :) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
