Re: Scouted: U.S. to collapse in next two years?

2009-01-06 Thread Alberto Vieira Ferreira Monteiro
Doug Pensinger wrote:

 On an SF list you forget Aerospace?

Aerospace is no longer future history, it's alternate history.

Alberto Monteiro
___
http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l


Re: Physicists offer foundation for uprooting a hallowed principle of physics

2009-01-06 Thread Julia Thompson



On Mon, 5 Jan 2009, Ronn! Blankenship wrote:


At 10:45 PM Monday 1/5/2009, Julia Thompson wrote:



On Mon, 5 Jan 2009, Rceeberger wrote:


http://www.physorg.com/news150388964.html

An apple and an anti-apple might not fall at the same rate.



xponent
But A Mac And An Anti-Apple 2E Do Maru
rob


Wow, it's almost 11PM, and I was almost despairing of encountering a good
reason not to have liquids at the computer today!  Congratulations, Rob!

Julia



I keep worrying about what a good spew would do
to this new flat-screen monitor:  I'm not sure
having a spray bottle of Windex™ and a roll of
paper towels by the screen is the best thing
anymore . . . or am I being unnecessarily paranoid?


I don't think Windex is the way to go with a flat-screen monitor.  I asked 
in May about that and got some good answers, I can go back and try to find 
those for you, if you'd like me to.


Julia
___
http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l


Re: Scouted: U.S. to collapse in next two years?

2009-01-06 Thread Julia Thompson


On Tue, 6 Jan 2009, Ronn! Blankenship wrote:

 At 12:09 AM Tuesday 1/6/2009, xponentrob wrote:

 xponent
 Watt?The Current News Is Shocking Mr Volta! Maru
 rob


 Ohm, that's revolting.

Sigh.  You just can't resist jumping into these pun threads, can you?

Julia

___
http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l


Re: Physicists offer foundation for uprooting a hallowed principle of physics

2009-01-06 Thread Julia Thompson



On Mon, 5 Jan 2009, Ronn! Blankenship wrote:


I keep worrying about what a good spew would do
to this new flat-screen monitor:  I'm not sure
having a spray bottle of Windex™ and a roll of
paper towels by the screen is the best thing
anymore . . . or am I being unnecessarily paranoid?


Lint-free cloth, NOT paper towels; spray one cloth with water or isopropyl 
alcohol, use that to clean, and follow with a dry cloth.


No, you're not being paranoid; I was specifically told *not* to use paper 
towels when I asked.  (And it sounds like Windex isn't quite the thing, 
either.)


A dilute vinegar solution will also work.  Don't ever spray anything 
directly onto the screen of a flatscreen monitor.


And don't press or try to scrub, because you can damage pixels or scratch 
the surface of the monitor that way.  IME, there are a *lot* of things 
that will come clean with sufficient gentle rubbing with something damp, 
but you need to be patient with everything.


Julia
___
http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l


Re: Physicists offer foundation for uprooting a hallowed principle of physics

2009-01-06 Thread Charlie Bell

On 07/01/2009, at 1:09 AM, Julia Thompson wrote:
 I don't think Windex is the way to go with a flat-screen monitor.  I  
 asked in May about that and got some good answers, I can go back and  
 try to find those for you, if you'd like me to.

Soft damp (not dripping!) cloth. Microfibre ones work well. Wipe  
*GENTLY*. If something has splashed and dried on, hold the damp cloth  
over it, and gently wipe. Patience may be required. Try not to poke  
them.

C.
___
http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l


Re: Physicists offer foundation for uprooting a hallowed principle of physics

2009-01-06 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Jan 6, 2009, at 8:29 AM, Julia Thompson wrote:

 I keep worrying about what a good spew would do
 to this new flat-screen monitor:  I'm not sure
 having a spray bottle of Windex™ and a roll of
 paper towels by the screen is the best thing
 anymore . . . or am I being unnecessarily paranoid?

 Lint-free cloth, NOT paper towels; spray one cloth with water or  
 isopropyl alcohol, use that to clean, and follow with a dry cloth.

 No, you're not being paranoid; I was specifically told *not* to use  
 paper towels when I asked.  (And it sounds like Windex isn't quite  
 the thing, either.)

 A dilute vinegar solution will also work.  Don't ever spray anything  
 directly onto the screen of a flatscreen monitor.

 And don't press or try to scrub, because you can damage pixels or  
 scratch the surface of the monitor that way.  IME, there are a *lot*  
 of things that will come clean with sufficient gentle rubbing with  
 something damp, but you need to be patient with everything.

Agreed on paper towels, they're abrasive enough to leave visible  
scratches even on a matte-finish display, and they will erode the anti- 
reflective coating on glossy displays.  (Learned that the hard way on  
a previous flat-face CRT monitor.)

And I think Windex chemically degrades the plastic of the overlay in  
some way, not sure what the visible effects are but consensus is that  
it's not good for that material at all.


___
http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l


Re: Scouted: U.S. to collapse in next two years?

2009-01-06 Thread Nick Arnett
On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 12:58 PM, Dan M dsummersmi...@comcast.net wrote:


 How does an economy grow on momentum?


The mortgage industry managed to do it for a while.

Nick
___
http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l


Re: Physicists offer foundation for uprooting a hallowed principle of physics

2009-01-06 Thread Euan Ritchie

 Lint-free cloth, NOT paper towels; spray one cloth with water or
 isopropyl alcohol, use that to clean, and follow with a dry cloth.

For simple things like finger smudges and dust a clean micro-fibre cloth
does well.
___
http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l


Re: Scouted: U.S. to collapse in next two years?

2009-01-06 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
At 08:11 AM Tuesday 1/6/2009, Julia Thompson wrote:


On Tue, 6 Jan 2009, Ronn! Blankenship wrote:

  At 12:09 AM Tuesday 1/6/2009, xponentrob wrote:
 
  xponent
  Watt?The Current News Is Shocking Mr Volta! Maru
  rob
 
 
  Ohm, that's revolting.

Sigh.  You just can't resist jumping into these pun threads, can you?

 Julia



No mho, huh?


. . . ronn!  :)



___
http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l


Cleaning flat screens, wuz Re: Physicists offer foundation for uprooting a hallowed principle of physics

2009-01-06 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
At 03:14 PM Tuesday 1/6/2009, Euan Ritchie wrote:

  Lint-free cloth, NOT paper towels; spray one cloth with water or
  isopropyl alcohol,



70% (rubbing alcohol) or 91% (sold for sterilizing needles, etc.) 
2-PrOH?  Or custom strength (more dilute??)?



use that to clean, and follow with a dry cloth.

For simple things like finger smudges and dust a clean micro-fibre cloth
does well.



That's what I've been using.  For worse I got a pack of wipes that 
are supposed to be for the purpose, but those are too expensive to 
keep using long-term.  ($5-something for a pack of 20, iirc.)

Especially If I Keep Reading This List Maru


. . . ronn!  :)



___
http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l


Cleaning flat screens, wuz Re: Physicists offer foundation for uprooting a hallowed principle of physics

2009-01-06 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
At 08:29 AM Tuesday 1/6/2009, Julia Thompson wrote:


On Mon, 5 Jan 2009, Ronn! Blankenship wrote:

I keep worrying about what a good spew would do
to this new flat-screen monitor:  I'm not sure
having a spray bottle of Windex™ and a roll of
paper towels by the screen is the best thing
anymore . . . or am I being unnecessarily paranoid?

Lint-free cloth, NOT paper towels; spray one 
cloth with water or isopropyl alcohol, use that 
to clean, and follow with a dry cloth.

No, you're not being paranoid; I was 
specifically told *not* to use paper towels when 
I asked.  (And it sounds like Windex isn't quite the thing, either.)

A dilute vinegar solution will also work.  Don't 
ever spray anything directly onto the screen of a flatscreen monitor.

And don't press or try to scrub, because you can 
damage pixels or scratch the surface of the 
monitor that way.  IME, there are a *lot* of 
things that will come clean with sufficient 
gentle rubbing with something damp, but you need to be patient with everything.

 Julia



Thx!

When reading this list one must always be prepared for major spewage . . .

Guess I Could Just Drape A Plastic Bag Over It Maru


. . . ronn!  :)



___
http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l


Re: Cleaning flat screens, wuz Re: Physicists offer foundation for uprooting a hallowed principle of physics

2009-01-06 Thread Charlie Bell

On 07/01/2009, at 10:25 AM, Ronn! Blankenship wrote:
 When reading this list one must always be prepared for major  
 spewage . . .

 Guess I Could Just Drape A Plastic Bag Over It Maru

Get a 30 screen, it'll be far enough from you that you're unlikely to  
hit it.

Charlie.

___
http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l


Re: Cleaning flat screens, wuz Re: Physicists offer foundation for uprooting a hallowed principle of physics

2009-01-06 Thread Julia Thompson


On Tue, 6 Jan 2009, Ronn! Blankenship wrote:

 Thx!

 When reading this list one must always be prepared for major spewage . . .

 Guess I Could Just Drape A Plastic Bag Over It Maru

Dude.

Just don't drink anything at the computer.

That's what I've been doing for years.  Between this list and a certain 
other one, I probably would have fried 3 monitors by now if I hadn't set 
that policy.

Julia

___
http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l


Re: Cleaning flat screens, wuz Re: Physicists offer foundation for uprooting a hallowed principle of physics

2009-01-06 Thread Julia Thompson


On Tue, 6 Jan 2009, Ronn! Blankenship wrote:

 At 03:14 PM Tuesday 1/6/2009, Euan Ritchie wrote:

 Lint-free cloth, NOT paper towels; spray one cloth with water or
 isopropyl alcohol,



 70% (rubbing alcohol) or 91% (sold for sterilizing needles, etc.)
 2-PrOH?  Or custom strength (more dilute??)?

More dilute.

 use that to clean, and follow with a dry cloth.

 For simple things like finger smudges and dust a clean micro-fibre cloth
 does well.



 That's what I've been using.  For worse I got a pack of wipes that
 are supposed to be for the purpose, but those are too expensive to
 keep using long-term.  ($5-something for a pack of 20, iirc.)

 Especially If I Keep Reading This List Maru

Get a couple of washable micro-fiber cloths.  Wash very carefully, I'd do 
it by hand and hang dry, just to not pick up lint from anything else.

Julia

___
http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l


Re: Cleaning flat screens, wuz Re: Physicists offer foundation for uprooting a hallowed principle of physics

2009-01-06 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
At 09:00 PM Tuesday 1/6/2009, Julia Thompson wrote:


On Tue, 6 Jan 2009, Ronn! Blankenship wrote:

  At 03:14 PM Tuesday 1/6/2009, Euan Ritchie wrote:
 
  Lint-free cloth, NOT paper towels; spray one cloth with water or
  isopropyl alcohol,
 
 
 
  70% (rubbing alcohol) or 91% (sold for sterilizing needles, etc.)
  2-PrOH?  Or custom strength (more dilute??)?

More dilute.



I see I forgot to include Specify.__

:P



  use that to clean, and follow with a dry cloth.
 
  For simple things like finger smudges and dust a clean micro-fibre cloth
  does well.
 
 
 
  That's what I've been using.  For worse I got a pack of wipes that
  are supposed to be for the purpose, but those are too expensive to
  keep using long-term.  ($5-something for a pack of 20, iirc.)
 
  Especially If I Keep Reading This List Maru

Get a couple of washable micro-fiber cloths.  Wash very carefully, I'd do
it by hand and hang dry,



That may work in a couple of days.  If you've already gotten what 
we've been getting today, you'd know why.


. . . ronn!  :)



___
http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l


Re: Scouted: U.S. to collapse in next two years?

2009-01-06 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Jan 6, 2009, at 12:05 AM, Ronn! Blankenship wrote:

 Point being, as has been mentioned previously,
 there are some parts of the US at least where a
 vehicle such as described will not serve the
 need, or where one with those limitations might
 be enough for some trips but for which at least
 weekly or monthly frex something with a much
 longer potential range is needed.  It's similar
 to when the Segway was introduced:  except in
 perhaps NYC and DC where some people who live in
 the city are able to do entirely without
 automobiles most of us in the US at least fairly
 regularly need something which goes faster than
 12 mph and further than a few miles, is
 weatherproof, and can carry (often multiple)
 children and cargo (like a week's groceries for
 the family and/or the kid's school and sports
 equipment), and can't afford $5K for an
 additional vehicle with those limitations which
 would make it useless for their purposes much of the time.

That's certainly true.

However, those areas are sparsely populated, and it's actually fair to  
consider vehicles meeting the needs of those regions as rather  
specialized.  In urbanized areas, particularly in densely populated  
urban areas (which, not all that coincidentally, are the areas where  
motor vehicle exhaust emissions contribute particularly heavily to  
smog and other undesirable side effects of pollution), a 100 mile  
commuter vehicle is a much more reasonable benchmark.  (To tell the  
truth, I commute about 50 miles round trip on a daily basis, and a  
battery powered car with that much range plus margin would be quite  
reasonable if I could charge it at home on off-peak power.)  Produce  
enough of those to where economies of scale kick in and more than just  
the first adopters are buying them, and that would be enough to get  
over the hump into larger scale development .. as I said, a phase  
change in the market.

Agreed, there are some people who wouldn't buy a battery electric  
vehicle to save their lives.  Some of those people tend to be the same  
ones who don't think gasoline will go right back up to $4+/gal next  
summer.  Wouldn't it be sweet to be the one who saw this coming ahead  
of time and had at least a basic product line of electric cars ready  
for them when they start feeling the pinch at the pump again this year?

“I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians  
are so unlike your Christ.” -- Mahatma Gandhi

___
http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l


Re: Scouted: U.S. to collapse in next two years?

2009-01-06 Thread Bruce Bostwick

On Jan 6, 2009, at 12:09 AM, xponentrob wrote:

 Most of the electrics are using Lithium Ion batteries and getting  
 ranges
 similar to what you posit here. Indeed, several exceed 140 MPC,  
 though they
 generally are high end and expensive.
 Altairnano Technology has batteries that will work like new after  
 180,000
 miles. There are plenty of amazing advances being made currently  
 (NPI).

Li+ has potential, but it's not as mature a technology as NiMH.  The  
reason a lot of electrics are using Li+ is that it isn't tied up in  
the patent squatting I mentioned earlier.  (The Chevron/Cobasys  
patents expire in 2012.  I'd be willing to bet money that we see a  
veritable explosion of large format NiMH battery production the moment  
those patents expire.)

 The Chevy Volt looks like it has a chance to be a Prius killer. It  
 is just a
 better system.

I saw some rather unimpressive demos of it not too long ago.  GM  
rolled one out for a photo shoot a few months ago and it could barely  
move itself, let alone drive -- possibly a firmware issue of some  
sort, or miscalculations in the engineering somewhere, but not ready  
for prime time yet.  I know a lot of people who aren't holding their  
breath for the Volt to go into production.  If it does, and if it's  
*ready* when it does, then yes, it has the potential to be a Prius  
killer.  We'll see, though.

The price of liberty is eternal vigilance. -- Thomas Jefferson


___
http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l