Late anniversary cards . . .

2009-08-10 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
http://www.gocomics.com/nestheads/2009/08/10/ http://comics.com/moderately_confused/2009-08-10/ http://comics.com/pc_and_pixel/2009-08-10/ Ob: . . . ronn! :) I always knew that I would see the first man on the Moon. I never dreamed that I would see the last. --Dr. Jerry Pournelle

Re: Politicians sell out again

2009-08-10 Thread John Williams
On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 4:53 PM, Bruce Bostwick wrote: > I'd go somewhat farther and say that the Wall Street culture > institutionalizes and rationalizes greed as a virtue, if not a sacrament. >  ("Greed is good.  Greed works.") One of the differences between a politician and a market participan

Re: Politicians sell out again

2009-08-10 Thread Chris Frandsen
Sorry but the rant against Wall Street and Big Business in general has never reached the level of the constant drum beat heard everywhere you turn about lawyers, politicians, school systems and government bureaucrats, etc. Of course the references to "Government bureaucrats" was dialed bac

Re: Politicians sell out again

2009-08-10 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
At 06:53 PM Monday 8/10/2009, Bruce Bostwick wrote: On Aug 10, 2009, at 5:57 PM, Ronn! Blankenship wrote: No, the problem with _them_ is that they are _all too_ "competent" (at getting money for themselves). Any number of people have said (and editorial cartoonists have drawn cartoons illustra

Re: Politicians sell out again

2009-08-10 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Aug 10, 2009, at 5:57 PM, Ronn! Blankenship wrote: No, the problem with _them_ is that they are _all too_ "competent" (at getting money for themselves). Any number of people have said (and editorial cartoonists have drawn cartoons illustrating) during the past (roughly) year that a/the

Re: Brin: On Incomprehensibility'

2009-08-10 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
At 08:05 AM Monday 8/3/2009, KZK wrote: David Brin Wrote: > Today's DVD's > 1- are not universal if you record on "minus" or "plus" mode and many >units throw fits, even then 1a. Get a better Player. Sony. Avoid Philips/Magnavox for electronics. See earlier exchanges about people (frex on

Re: Politicians sell out again

2009-08-10 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
At 02:57 PM Monday 8/10/2009, Chris Frandsen wrote: John; I really dislike it when someone generalizes any group. The problem I have is with the continuous rant from the right that "Everyone knows that ___ is incompetent"(replace the blank with government, public schools or teachers etc)

Re: Br!n: Libertarian Morality--Up with good King John, down withRobin Hood.

2009-08-10 Thread Trent Shipley
Dan M wrote: > >> -Original Message- >> From: brin-l-boun...@mccmedia.com [mailto:brin-l-boun...@mccmedia.com] On >> Behalf Of Trent Shipley >> Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 3:23 PM >> To: Killer Bs (David Brin et al) Discussion >> Subject: Re: Br!n: Libertarian Morality--Up with good King

Re: Libertarian Morality--Up with good King John, down with Robin Hood.

2009-08-10 Thread Trent Shipley
Dan M wrote: > > Of course, I knew there was another strain in libertarianism that was > based in morality. This was an ideological commitment to maximize > individual freedom. Basically Aleister Crowley's "Harm no one and do > what thou wilt", with the "harm no one" clause being > optional--pa

Re: Politicians sell out again

2009-08-10 Thread John Williams
On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 12:57 PM, Chris Frandsen wrote: > I suggest that rather rant in general that we begin a concerted effort to > limit spending on campaigns and disallow TV and radio ads by any > organization other than the candidates. Leave the newspapers and the > internet open but ban TV a

Re: Politicians sell out again

2009-08-10 Thread Chris Frandsen
John; I really dislike it when someone generalizes any group. The problem I have is with the continuous rant from the right that "Everyone knows that ___ is incompetent"(replace the blank with government, public schools or teachers etc) Please note that big business is never a tar

Re: Br!n: Libertarian Morality--Up with good King John, down with Robin Hood.

2009-08-10 Thread tshipley
Libertarianism is radically individualistic. It sees civilization as a network of social contracts between individuals. Government and taxes are evil. One reason, among many, is that taxes burden the individual for the sake of the collective. Maybe an individual should contribute to the collecti