Re: The wikipedia trolls may win again :-/

2009-12-27 Thread Nick Arnett
On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 5:35 PM, Nick Arnett  wrote:

> I could host it along with the list.  I even set up a wiki there,
> which I'm not using.


Sent that from my phone while waiting to see Sherlock Holmes (quite good,
but I had trouble understanding some of the dialog for some reason).

If I set it up, who volunteers to have magical powers over it?  I'd like to
see a couple of people from the list (or vouched by list members) as
administrators.

Nick
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Re: [Fwd: Re: The wikipedia trolls may win again :-/]

2009-12-27 Thread David Hobby

Trent Shipley wrote:
...

A quick Google doesn't turn up any strong scifi literary wikis.  Given
the structure of a well designed wiki, David Brin's Uplift Universe
should be a viable category effectively acting as a sub-wiki.  In short,
you can have both.

...

From: Alberto Vieira Ferreira Monteiro

...
Article Alvin Hph-wayuo was proposed for elimination. From what 
I know about such things, it will be eliminated :-(


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alvin_Hph-wayuo

...

Alberto--

Hi.  I think you can make a good case to keep it,
since it involves a major character in a series
of popular science fiction novels.

If we want to keep
it, the thing to do would be to tie it in better
with other articles.  The Hoon article at
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoon_(fiction)
could say something like "The most detailed
references to the Hoon appear in the Jijo
series.  The major Hoon character in those
books is Alvin Hph-wayuo, who..."

(This should be brief, but lets you link to the
Alvin page.)

The pages for the books should also link to Alvin's
page.  But wait, the entry at
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infinity%27s_Shore
is just a stub...

O.K., so maybe the problem is that a case can eventually
be made for Wikipedia to keep the page, but that
the related pages aren't detailed enough yet.  I
can see developing a Wiki devoted to the Uplift
Universe in the meantime, and copying its content
onto Wikipedia as time passes.

---David


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Re: [Fwd: Re: The wikipedia trolls may win again :-/]

2009-12-27 Thread Dave Land
I found most of what I wanted to know about Anathem on the Anathem  
Wiki at wikia.com.


Maybe that's a good place for us?

Dave

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A quick Google doesn't turn up any strong scifi literary wikis.  Given
the structure of a well designed wiki, David Brin's Uplift Universe
should be a viable category effectively acting as a sub-wiki.  In  
short,

you can have both.



sendai wrote:


On 28/12/2009, at 11:23 AM, tship...@deru.com wrote:


Let's be more ambitious.


I've gone the other way and reduced the scope to just Uplift.

It's currently hosted on Wikia, and I've only just started dumping  
some of the lists (along with the Alvin stub) from Wikipedia to it,  
so it's not an issue if Nick wishes to host it on the same server  
as the list.


http://uplift.wikia.com/wiki/Uplift_Wiki


A science fiction and fantasy literary wiki!  (And just when I  
needed a new project too.)







--Original Message--
From: Alberto Vieira Ferreira Monteiro
To: Brin-L
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Subject: The wikipedia trolls may win again :-/
Sent: Dec 27, 2009 4:56 PM

Article Alvin Hph-wayuo was proposed for elimination. From what
I know about such things, it will be eliminated :-(

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alvin_Hph-wayuo

Maybe it's time to setup a Brin wiki

Alberto Monteiro











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[Fwd: Re: The wikipedia trolls may win again :-/]

2009-12-27 Thread Trent Shipley


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A quick Google doesn't turn up any strong scifi literary wikis.  Given
the structure of a well designed wiki, David Brin's Uplift Universe
should be a viable category effectively acting as a sub-wiki.  In short,
you can have both.



sendai wrote:

> On 28/12/2009, at 11:23 AM, tship...@deru.com wrote:
>   
>> Let's be more ambitious.
>> 
> I've gone the other way and reduced the scope to just Uplift.
>
> It's currently hosted on Wikia, and I've only just started dumping some of 
> the lists (along with the Alvin stub) from Wikipedia to it, so it's not an 
> issue if Nick wishes to host it on the same server as the list.
>
> http://uplift.wikia.com/wiki/Uplift_Wiki
>
>   
>> A science fiction and fantasy literary wiki!  (And just when I needed a new 
>> project too.)
>> 
>
>
>   
>> --Original Message--
>> From: Alberto Vieira Ferreira Monteiro
>> To: Brin-L
>> ReplyTo: Brin-L
>> Subject: The wikipedia trolls may win again :-/
>> Sent: Dec 27, 2009 4:56 PM
>>
>> Article Alvin Hph-wayuo was proposed for elimination. From what 
>> I know about such things, it will be eliminated :-(
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alvin_Hph-wayuo
>>
>> Maybe it's time to setup a Brin wiki
>>
>> Alberto Monteiro
>> 
>
>
>
>   




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Re: The wikipedia trolls may win again :-/

2009-12-27 Thread Nick Arnett
I could host it along with the list.  I even set up a wiki there,
which I'm not using.

Nick

On 12/27/09, tship...@deru.com  wrote:
> Let's be more ambitious.
>
> A science fiction and fantasy literary wiki!  (And just when I needed a new
> project too.)
> --Original Message--
> From: Alberto Vieira Ferreira Monteiro
> To: Brin-L
> ReplyTo: Brin-L
> Subject: The wikipedia trolls may win again :-/
> Sent: Dec 27, 2009 4:56 PM
>
> Article Alvin Hph-wayuo was proposed for elimination. From what
> I know about such things, it will be eliminated :-(
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alvin_Hph-wayuo
>
> Maybe it's time to setup a Brin wiki
>
> Alberto Monteiro
>
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Re: The wikipedia trolls may win again :-/

2009-12-27 Thread tshipley
Let's be more ambitious. 

A science fiction and fantasy literary wiki!  (And just when I needed a new 
project too.)
--Original Message--
From: Alberto Vieira Ferreira Monteiro
To: Brin-L
ReplyTo: Brin-L
Subject: The wikipedia trolls may win again :-/
Sent: Dec 27, 2009 4:56 PM

Article Alvin Hph-wayuo was proposed for elimination. From what 
I know about such things, it will be eliminated :-(

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alvin_Hph-wayuo

Maybe it's time to setup a Brin wiki

Alberto Monteiro

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The wikipedia trolls may win again :-/

2009-12-27 Thread Alberto Vieira Ferreira Monteiro
Article Alvin Hph-wayuo was proposed for elimination. From what 
I know about such things, it will be eliminated :-(

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alvin_Hph-wayuo

Maybe it's time to setup a Brin wiki

Alberto Monteiro

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