Re: Brin Wiki and Trolls
Brin-L and Wiki and Trolls: Brin-L and Wiki and Trolls--oh my Brin-L and Wiki and Trolls--oh my By the way the brain it dumbs, something Wiki this way comes. Vilyehm ___ http://mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com
Re: The worst
Nick wrote: My younger sister, Lesley, the youngest of the four of us, mother of my five-year-old niece, Sarah, could not fight off the sepsis that attacked her body. Lesley died this morning. Oh, Nick, I am so sorry to hear this. My condolences to you and your family. Jim Best Weight Loss Program - Click Here! Weight Loss Program http://tagline.excite.com/c?cp=Iwzk_O7st8cQgaQrqCb7HgAAKZT738qPhjQFbf9pb8pfqpVcAAYAAADNAAAEUtErCmY=___ http://mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com
Re: Brin Wiki and Trolls
Jon Louis Mann wrote: ... My sense is that this is a philosophical thing to him--he's in the Deletionist camp on Wikipedia, who want to limit the number of articles on non-notable topics. (He also questions articles on minor academic journals, people I've never heard of, and so on.) ... Thanks, David, for that succinct, but thorough explanation of what motivates the troll and one way to circumvent it. The fact that this character is operating behind a false persona indicates he doesn't even have the convictions of his philosophical principles. ---Jon Jon-- Actually, using a nickname is very common among Wikipedia editors, good and bad. (It took me a while to figure out who Albmont was, even.) ---David ___ http://mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com
Re: The worst
On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 4:47 PM, Nick Arnett nick.arn...@gmail.com wrote: My friends I hate to write this. Been putting it off for a while. My younger sister, Lesley, the youngest of the four of us, mother of my five-year-old niece, Sarah, could not fight off the sepsis that attacked her body. Lesley died this morning. I have never hurt so much. Nick ___ http://mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com I am so sorry for your loss. Lesley will live on in the memories of all who loved her. john ___ http://mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com
Re: The worst
I am so sorry, Nick. You and your family will be in our thoughts. - jmh -Original Message- From: Nick Arnett nick.arn...@gmail.com Subj: The worst Date: Mon Jan 4, 2010 3:47 pm Size: 311 bytes To: Killer Bs (David Brin et al) Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com My friends I hate to write this. Been putting it off for a while. My younger sister, Lesley, the youngest of the four of us, mother of my five-year-old niece, Sarah, could not fight off the sepsis that attacked her body. Lesley died this morning. I have never hurt so much. Nick ___ http://mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com
RE: Honey, I'm home!
At Stardate 20100501.0412, David Hobby wrote: Jeroen-- Hi, and welcome back. It has been awhile. One question: What are your plans for the other Brin-L, the one at http://www.brin-l.com/frame.html ? The other Brin-L still exists (although list traffic is low) and will remain active. The Brin-L.com website will also remain up and running. The Alliance for Progress Encyclopedia was added to it recently, further plans include updating various pages and doing a bit of redesign. Plus of course the overhaul of the A4P Encyclopedia. I'd suppose that the archives for the two lists should eventually be merged somehow. Why should those archives be merged? They share the name Brin-L but other than that they're separate mailing lists. Ohmygawd, archives. That just brought back memories of my second-largest project ever: The Great Brin-L Archive... But in the short term, how about putting up a link to this list? That will certainly happen in the near future. In fact, once inspiration and sufficient nothing-better-to-do time will come to me I will even create a new website about this List. A little over a year ago I once again became the owner of the Brin-L.net domain name, but so far all it does is autoforward to the Brin-L.com website and provide me with an e-mail address to subscribe to this List (as you may have noticed from the headers). I haven't yet figured out what else to do with it, so if anyone has any suggestions, let me know! Jeroen van Baardwijk -- Wonderful World of Brin-L Website: www.brin-l.com Alliance for Progress Encyclopedia: www.brin-l.com/a4p ___ http://mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com
Brin Wikipedia deletions / Brin wiki
Hope I'm not stepping any toes, but I've exported the files listed below from Wikipedia (with full edit histories) and imported them to htyp.org -- for safekeeping, if nothing else. (I'll tidy them up and integrate them properly later, as soon as I get a chance.) Others are welcome to re-copy them within the terms of Wikipedia's license, of course. htyp.org has always been open for this sort of content. Regards, Woozle See, for example, what motivated this thread: the pages in wikipedia that were marked for deletion by a wikipedia troll (or should I say a wikipedia Tandu?): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alvin_Hph-wayuo http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uplift_Universe http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gubru http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glaver http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earthclan http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tymbrimi http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jophur http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G'Kek http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streaker_(David_Brin) ___ http://mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com
RE: The worst
My heartfelt condolences, Nick. Jeroen van Baardwijk Van: brin-l-boun...@mccmedia.com [mailto:brin-l-boun...@mccmedia.com] Namens Nick Arnett Verzonden: maandag 4 januari 2010 22:48 Aan: Killer Bs (David Brin et al) Discussion Onderwerp: The worst My friends I hate to write this. Been putting it off for a while. My younger sister, Lesley, the youngest of the four of us, mother of my five-year-old niece, Sarah, could not fight off the sepsis that attacked her body. Lesley died this morning. I have never hurt so much. Nick ___ http://mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com
RE: The worst
Nick -- I will never understand these twistings of our lives, especially when such terrible separations happen in one lifetime. I'm so sorry for your loss. I hope you can find comfort wherever it is available to you, including here. Blessings to you and your family. Jo Anne evens...@hevanet.com ___ http://mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com
RE: The worst
Jo Anne wrote: I will never understand these twistings of our lives, especially when such terrible separations happen in one lifetime. I'm so sorry for your loss. I hope you can find comfort wherever it is available to you, including here. Blessings to you and your family. Today, in brazilian TV, there was an analysis of the tragedies that happened in Angra dos Reis, where families were cut in half by an earthslide. The analysts said that people never recover from the loss, and it takes about one year for life to return to normal. I hope the best for Nick and his family - needless to say, let's keep Nick's sister memory alive. Alberto Monteiro ___ http://mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com
Re: The worst
On Jan 4, 2010, at 4:47 PM, Nick Arnett nick.arn...@gmail.com wrote: My friends I hate to write this. Been putting it off for a while. My younger sister, Lesley, the youngest of the four of us, mother of my five-year-old niece, Sarah, could not fight off the sepsis that attacked her body. Lesley died this morning. I have never hurt so much. My condolences, Nick. -Bryon ___ http://mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com
Re: The worst
On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 11:23 AM, Alberto Monteiro albm...@centroin.com.brwrote: Today, in brazilian TV, there was an analysis of the tragedies that happened in Angra dos Reis, where families were cut in half by an earthslide. The analysts said that people never recover from the loss, and it takes about one year for life to return to normal. Not sure if I have ever really talked about it on the list, but my wife and I are part of a team that does a lot of crisis intervention and grief counseling (we were just sitting down with a family hit by suicide when I got the first news that Lesley was so sick). One thing I have learned is that life never returns to the old normal. What we can do is create a new normal... but I'm not even ready to think about that yet. I'm still just in the hurt. Thank you, everyone, for all the kind words. They mean more than I could ever explain. Nick ___ http://mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com
Re: The worst
Something I've been meaning to mention here about my sister For a number of years, she taught English at a high school in St. Thomas, USVI. I went there to visit her and saw that she had a bunch of David Brin's books on her shelf - she was a big fan! Boy, was she tickled to discover that I knew David. Somewhere in her things, she has a couple of autographed first editions with personal notes. Come to think of it, I should make sure those books don't go to Goodwll or something! I better let my parents know. Nick ___ http://mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com
nicknames
Thanks, David, for that succinct, but thorough explanation of what motivates the troll and one way to circumvent it. The fact that this character is operating behind a false persona indicates he doesn't even have the convictions of his philosophical principles. ---Jon Jon-- Actually, using a nickname is very common among Wikipedia editors, good and bad. (It took me a while to figure out who Albmont was, even.) ---David Albmont is an easy one to figure out. I do know about nicknames. I don't understand why people create false personas to hide behind them so they can cause mischief. Whenever I run across it I wonder what their motivation is, just like when I see people deliberately litter. Now I try to ignore them or just leave the site, rather than engage. ___ http://mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com
