Re: Electric trains and Clipperships!

2010-02-19 Thread Lance A. Brown
Jon Louis Mann said the following on 2/19/2010 8:30 PM: > Shucks, we're better of without aircraft, > heavy trucks and diesel powered ships. > It will force us to use alt fuels and > old tech, like wind and steam power!~) > We'll still need oil for lubrication, > but maybe the whale population w

Re: Electric trains and Clipperships!

2010-02-19 Thread Nick Arnett
On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 5:30 PM, Jon Louis Mann wrote: > > Shucks, we're better of without aircraft, > heavy trucks and diesel powered ships. > It will force us to use alt fuels and > old tech, like wind and steam power!~) How do you make the steam? Nick

Electric trains and Clipperships!

2010-02-19 Thread Jon Louis Mann
> how do you propose to power aircraft, > heavy trucks and ships after we run > out of fossil fuels? Also, how long > will it take to replace ICE powered > vehicles? > snip > All the saving you can make in a year > are blown on one short aircraft trip. Shucks, we're better of without aircraft,

Re: Br?n on global warming

2010-02-19 Thread Charlie Bell
On 19/02/2010, at 3:16 PM, Keith Henson wrote: > On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 4:28 PM, Charlie Bell > wrote: > >> >> >> On 18/02/2010, at 11:29 AM, Keith Henson wrote: > > snip > You'd be surprised. My maths isn't great (ie i'm not a natural mathematician), but my chemistry is fine.

Re: Br?n on global warming

2010-02-19 Thread Michael Harney
How we produce that energy needs to change too, but the levels of wastage in the US and Australia are verging on criminal. Cutting out waste isn't preaching a "need to suffer". What scientists are saying is that if we carry on with "business as usual" then a lot of people will suffer.

Re: Br?n on global warming

2010-02-19 Thread Keith Henson
On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 4:28 PM, Charlie Bell wrote: > > > On 18/02/2010, at 11:29 AM, Keith Henson wrote: snip >>> You'd be surprised. My maths isn't great (ie i'm not a natural >>> mathematician), but my chemistry is fine... >> >> The US uses about 20 million bbs of oil per day.  How much e