Re: Power satellites was and the rest of you

2014-03-05 Thread Ronn! Blankenship

At 12:04 Tuesday 04-03-14, Keith Henson wrote:

[...]  Time to displace fossil fuels
is a bit over two decades from the start.




Will probably take at least that long before second- and third-hand 
used electric vehicles get cheap enough for those who today cannot 
afford anything newer than that in a gasoline-powered vehicle to 
start being able to afford to replace their current vehicles that 
they have to have to get to work, school, the grocery store, the 
doctor, etc.  It's also highly unlikely that things will change 
enough any sooner than that in most places in the US and elsewhere 
outside of a few densely-packed urban centers like NYC for most 
people to be able to do without individual powered transportation for 
those necessary trips:  IOW, most places I've lived the bus or other 
public transportation is only good for going downtown in the morning 
and coming back in the evening after regular business hours, and 
not even that from many places where people live, and most people 
have too far to go or have disabilities or other health conditions 
which would prevent them from walking or riding a bicycle to/from 
work, even when it's not raining or other inclement weather, or their 
job requires them to arrive in a suit or other specified attire, 
looking and smelling fresh, and stay that way all day, and the 
business doesn't have and probably has no place to install locker 
rooms with showers.  Then there are the ones who have to carry tools 
or samples or other bulky items with them, and pretty much everyone 
who has to bring groceries home or take kids to the doctor or 
multiple kids to multiple schools, music lessons, soccer practice, etc. . . .



. . . ronn!  :)

An Active List Again? Maru 



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RE: Introducing Myself

2014-03-05 Thread Ellen S .
AT LAST my messages from like 6 months ago when I joined the 
mailing list have materialized. Though I do wonder what took 
so long. I see references to messages that I know I have not 
gotten, so I think there's also something preventing my 
address from receiving some messages from this list. Who is
the list manager?


 Hello. There are plenty of real names and plenty of ‘nyms
 here, so don’t be shy either way. “ES” or “zoon33” both
 seem reasonable enough - as long as you’re consistent or
 let the rest of us know your wishes who are we to argue?

Hello!
I hope my real name isn't showing! I cannot find any controls 
to make the email service stop doing that.

I will go with E.S. for now.


 It’s been quiet recently but every now and again this place
 sputters into life… I doubt it’ll ever reach the volumes of
 The Old Days again (unless DB WRITES MORE UPLIFT BOOKS…) but
 there’s always room for discussion. 

Wouldn't that be nice! Heaven's Reach ended on gigantic 
cliffhangers, such as WILL HUMANITY GO EXTICT!? :p
 


 At one point, there was Between a Grok and a Hard Pace on the net.
 My fanfic set 100 years before Brightness Reef. A Qheuen challenges
 a G'Kek to a downhill race--and wins. Then for the sake of continued
 peace, it's all hushed up.

 Only worth being a fanfic when written.

 Vilyehm

I think I read that once... the qheuen attached itself to a section
of boo and used it as a giant wheel, right?


~E.S. 
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What are peeps reading lately?

2014-03-05 Thread Ellen S .
Late last year when I wasn't feeling well and needed some lighter
reading than The Lord of the Rings, I started the Dragonriders of
Pern series.

Now that I'm feeling better somehow I got sidetracked into very
complicated math and trying to make the GURPS solar system
simulator and GURPS Uplift alien generator even more complicated...

by the way anyone know of a good source of free/public phase diagrams
for compounds such as methane, ethane, ammonia, hydrogen sulfide, etc.?
As in, a book that might be found at a library?

~E.S.



 Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2014 15:37:57 -0500 
 Subject: Re: 
  
 I just picked up KSR's 2312 and Jack Campbell's The Lost Stars:  
 Tarnished Knights (sequel series to the Lost Fleet series). Haven't  
 started reading them. I was re-reading Sword of Shanarra as MTV is  
 threatening a new series al a Game of Thrones. It's turning into a slog  
 (seemed much better when I was a kid!) 
  
 Damon.  
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RE: Uplift questions

2014-03-05 Thread Ellen S .
 Spoiler warning to anyone who hasn't read Heaven's 
 Reach!! 





 And that's Alvin, Mudfoot, and Huck on Harathrurptra. 
   (Correct spelling anyone?) 
 Mudfoot can become VERY important if Harathrumta (Sp?) 
 has Rousit.

In what way? By influencing Rousit in some way to be 
friendly to Clan Tymbrimi than their patrons are?
I wouldn't hire Tytlal for my PR campaign, that's for 
sure.



 Does anybody remember the Rousit?

 Contacting Aliens didn't.

 (The above is subject, of course, to Dr. Brin actually 
 making the Rousit clients of the Hoon. It wasn't that 
 clear in Heaven's Reach.)

Buh wait, that isn't canon? I assumed they were confirmed
Hoon clients.



 2. Did we ever find out why Gillian wanted a herd of 
 Glavers? 
  
 They speak to hydrogen breathers, IIRC. 

Reading Contacting Aliens cleared that one up for me.
Though I don't recall any glavers sitting in on her
interview with the Transcendent being... then again
maybe a few were sitting in a corner wordlessly chewing 
their cud or whatever glavers do.



 (It 
 would also have made it possible for Dwer to take a 
 few back to Jijo, but I doubt David Brin would make 
 things so narratively easy for Jijo.)

Oops, that comment of mine was about red rings, not
glavers. But seriously, you'd think Lark would remember
Asx's request to take the original red ring to the
Sages, and try to get somebody to take some.



 And Alvin could use the bio-life preservers in 
 his sailing business. 

Ahah yeah! Hoon can't swim so they might find those
traeki scuba-gear rings handy. But then traeki were
basically written as biological Swiss-army-knives for
nearly every need... to the extent of producing
the enzymes that make it possible for humans and
maybe others to exist on Jijo without dying of
malnutrition. It makes me wonder how the Path of
Redemption folks plan on replacing that function once
traeki are mindless dirt-eaters.


 ~E.S.
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RE: Introducing Myself

2014-03-05 Thread Nick Arnett
That would be me. Don't know why I didn't see any notices about the held mail until the other day. Odd.
Nick
"Ellen S." zoo...@hotmail.com wrote:AT LAST my messages from like 6 months ago when I joined the 
mailing list have materialized. Though I do wonder what took 
so long. I see references to messages that I know I have not 
gotten, so I think there's also something preventing my 
address from receiving some messages from this list. Who is
the list manager?


> Hello. There are plenty of real names and plenty of ‘nyms
> here, so don’t be shy either way. “ES” or “zoon33” both
> seem reasonable enough - as long as you’re consistent or
> let the rest of us know your wishes who are we to argue?

Hello!
I hope my real name isn't showing! I cannot find any controls 
to make the email service stop doing that.

I will go with E.S. for now.


> It’s been quiet recently but every now and again this place
> sputters into life… I doubt it’ll ever reach the volumes of
> The Old Days again (unless DB WRITES MORE UPLIFT BOOKS…) but
> there’s always room for discussion. 

Wouldn't that be nice! Heaven's Reach ended on gigantic 
cliffhangers, such as WILL HUMANITY GO EXTICT!? :p
 


> At one point, there was "Between a Grok and a Hard Pace" on the net.
> My fanfic set 100 years before Brightness Reef. A Qheuen challenges
> a G'Kek to a downhill race--and wins. Then for the sake of continued
> peace, it's all hushed up.
>
> Only worth being a fanfic when written.
>
> Vilyehm

I think I read that once... the qheuen attached itself to a section
of boo and used it as a giant wheel, right?


~E.S. 		 	   		  
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