Re: Where to now?

2012-11-20 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Nov 19, 2012, at 1:55 PM, Klaus Stock wrote: And...we got the iPad, where you actually have to flip pages the old way. FYI -- you *can* turn pages the traditional way, but you can also tap the right edge of the page to turn it, so in effect, the whole right edge of the page is a next

Re: Where to now?

2012-11-20 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Nov 19, 2012, at 1:58 PM, Klaus Stock wrote: We need a black swan. Maybe we already have it. The wiki model is working for editing wikipedias (not only _the_ Wikipedia, but many other clones, parodies, porn sites or just silly stuff), It began with IMDB and if they hadn't been such

Re: Facebook censorship and internet porn

2010-12-26 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Dec 26, 2010, at 5:03 PM, Julia wrote: On Dec 11, 2010, at 7:42 PM, Jon Louis Mann wrote: ...net nanny software block and report any search for any string containing the word breast ...that may prevent a woman from learning how to examine herself for cancer or her options if she is

Re: Facebook censorship and internet porn

2010-12-11 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Dec 11, 2010, at 7:42 PM, Jon Louis Mann wrote: ...net nanny software block and report any search for any string containing the word breast ...that may prevent a woman from learning how to examine herself for cancer or her options if she is diagnosed... ...policy of removing pictures of

Re: Facebook censorship and internet porn

2010-12-11 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Dec 11, 2010, at 8:56 PM, Bruce Bostwick wrote: This was made abundantly clear by the somewhat paradoxical maneuvering surrounding the proposed .xxx TLD for porn domains. The idea of a porn-specific TLD made perfect sense, as it would have provided a place where interested adults could

Re: Facebook breastfeeding ban

2010-12-10 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Dec 10, 2010, at 6:11 PM, Jon Louis Mann wrote: I have never heard of a Facebook rule outlawing pictures of women breast feeding in public. I don't know of any publicly stated rule, but I do know photos of women topless tend to vanish fairly quickly, and I'm certain of it in the cases

Re: Brin: (Ignoring Murphy's Law) kills

2010-12-07 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Dec 7, 2010, at 5:31 AM, Alberto Monteiro wrote: Three days ago, a brazilian teenager was killed in hospital, because instead of saline solution, the nurse gave her vaseline. The reason was that the idiots that produced those products made _identical_ vessels for them, with the difference

Re: Facebook is evil, why it must be eradicated [was: Wikileaks?]

2010-12-07 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Dec 7, 2010, at 5:44 AM, Alberto Monteiro wrote: Why do people join Facebook, when it's owned by sociopaths and perverts? and then wrote: It's not the people that join that are sociopaths and perverts, it's the people that control the site that are sociopaths and perverts. Only a

Re: Facebook is evil, why it must be eradicated [was: Wikileaks?]

2010-12-07 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Dec 7, 2010, at 4:25 PM, trent shipley wrote: On Dec 7, 2010 3:15 PM, Dan Minette danmine...@att.net wrote: Only a sociopath and pervert can think that breastfeeding is pornography. It's disrespectful to... Actually, it doesn't, Alberto. Facebook is free, last time I looked. I can

Re: WikiLeaks

2010-12-02 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Dec 2, 2010, at 7:51 AM, Jon Louis Mann wrote: Having consensual sex in Sweden without a condom is punishable by a term of imprisonment of a minimum of two years for rape. That strikes me as very strange indeed. is there more to that law than that? Does this apply only to extramarital

Re: The powers of cats

2010-11-11 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Nov 11, 2010, at 7:05 AM, Alberto Monteiro wrote: Is is beyond the intelligence level of cats to understand that it's possible to use the mouse and see interesting things in the screen? Given the things I've seen cats learn to do, and in some cases, figure out on their own, especially

Re: the Cold War

2010-11-11 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Nov 11, 2010, at 7:41 AM, Pat Mathews wrote: Of course, Russia and China didn't like each other any better than we liked either one of them, or they, us. Still, Kipling's Great Game went on along all three borders for quite some time. Which took the US a long time to figure out,

Re: the Cold War

2010-11-08 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Nov 8, 2010, at 4:55 AM, Alberto Monteiro wrote: Jon Louis Mann wrote: ...and judging by GDP figures, the USA is still fighting the Cold War. There never was a Cold War beginning with the Korean War WW III was a global conflict against Communism in Latin America, The Carribbean,

Re: Down with the government

2010-10-19 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Oct 19, 2010, at 8:53 AM, John Williams jwilliams4...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 6:35 AM, Julia ju...@zurg.net wrote: The old people don't equate to the old culture. There's a fairly large intersection of the two, but neither is a subset (proper or improper) of the other.

Re: Down with the government

2010-10-18 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Oct 18, 2010, at 7:50 PM, Kevin O'Brien wrote: In other words, we have a continuing culture ware against a backdrop of change that is rapidly making the old culture obsolete. Well put. I might add that the old culture is becoming at least vaguely aware of their increasing marginality,

Re: StratoSolar

2010-10-12 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Oct 11, 2010, at 5:29 PM, Alberto Monteiro wrote: Keith Henson wrote: Since the 1970s, US politicians have given lip service to National Energy Self-sufficiency. The US has failed to achieve anything, largely because nobody had a good idea of how to make it work at the same or lower cost

Re: Brin: Claw

2010-08-27 Thread Bruce Bostwick
Are the costs of those last 206 years items adjusted for variations in the value of the dollar over that time? ($1M bought a lot more back when we were buying Louisiana than it did when we were paying for Apollo missions..) [Also, concurring with David that WWII doesn't seem to be in

Re: Brin: The Digital Surveillance State: Vast, Secret, and Dangerous

2010-08-23 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Aug 23, 2010, at 2:24 AM, KZK wrote: On Aug 21, 2010, at 21:51, David Brindb...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Whine, moan bitch complain without any sensible suggestions... yep, that's the Cato way. Above all, aim all suspicion-of-authority at some vague government and ignore all other

Re: First Pluto is not a planet, and now . . . .

2010-08-03 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Aug 3, 2010, at 10:33 AM, Nick Arnett wrote: On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 8:29 AM, William T Goodall w...@wtgab.demon.co.uk wrote: ... When presented with the statement “human beings, as we know them today, developed from earlier species of animals,” just 45 percent of respondents indicated

Re: First Pluto is not a planet, and now . . . .

2010-08-03 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Aug 3, 2010, at 10:10 AM, Nick Arnett wrote: As long as we're on that subject, it dawned on me a while ago that the trouble I have with creationists is that they believe in a God who is too stupid to have created evolution. They also believe in a god who loves them so much that he'll

Re: Creationism [was: First Pluto is not a planet, and now . . . .]

2010-08-03 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Aug 3, 2010, at 12:48 PM, Dave Land wrote: The idea that Christianity or Judaism believe that the devil is a separate but (thankfully, not quite) equal power to God is nonsense: it goes against the whole idea of monotheism. You can accept or not accept the monotheistic God of

Re: Creationism [was: First Pluto is not a planet, and now . . . .]

2010-08-03 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Aug 3, 2010, at 4:00 PM, William T Goodall wrote: On 3 Aug 2010, at 19:35, Bruce Bostwick wrote: On Aug 3, 2010, at 12:48 PM, Dave Land wrote: The idea that Christianity or Judaism believe that the devil is a separate but (thankfully, not quite) equal power to God is nonsense: it goes

Re: Tea Party Racism

2010-07-26 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Jul 26, 2010, at 11:58 AM, zwil...@zwilnik.com wrote: On July 25, 2010 at 7:57 PM Bruce Bostwick lihan161...@sbcglobal.net wrote: On Jul 25, 2010, at 1:06 PM, Doug Pensinger wrote: Is the Tea Party fundamentally racist? Or is it just coincidental that it formed as a black man

Re: Tea Party Racism

2010-07-26 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Jul 26, 2010, at 11:58 AM, zwil...@zwilnik.com wrote: On July 25, 2010 at 7:57 PM Bruce Bostwick lihan161...@sbcglobal.net wrote: On Jul 25, 2010, at 1:06 PM, Doug Pensinger wrote: Is the Tea Party fundamentally racist? Or is it just coincidental that it formed as a black man

Re: Tea Party Racism

2010-07-25 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Jul 25, 2010, at 1:06 PM, Doug Pensinger wrote: Is the Tea Party fundamentally racist? Or is it just coincidental that it formed as a black man was taking office? For years, Republicans were in office busting the budget and passing bills like Medicare D which was completely unfunded

Re: replacing fossil fuels

2010-07-06 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Jul 6, 2010, at 10:41 AM, Nick Arnett wrote: We don't need to confer about this kind of thing. The only time we need to agree is on those very, very rare occasions when we see the need to shut someone out. I've found, on the lists/communities I mod, that if none of the mods approve a

Re: Any comments on this piece?

2010-06-17 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Jun 17, 2010, at 3:01 PM, Alberto Monteiro wrote: Ronn! Blankenship wrote: Petrobras was :-) Did they make women's undergarments out of petroleum? You have a wrong idea about Brazil. Unfortunately, the paradise that movies like Blame it on Rio or Tourists depict is as far away from

Re: Weekly Chat Reminder

2010-06-02 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Jun 2, 2010, at 1:00 PM, William T Goodall wrote: -(_() Though sometimes marshmallows do get thrown. I once found too-burnt-to-be-eaten flaming marshmallows can be thrown at fairly high velocity from the skewer on which they were being roasted. They stick fairly irremovably to

Re: Apple Microsoft

2010-05-26 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On May 26, 2010, at 4:23 PM, William T Goodall wrote: Apple's (AAPL) market capitalisation exceeded Microsoft's (MSFT) today $225.98 billion to $225.32 billion. The end of the blue screen era Maru -- William T Goodall Mail : w...@wtgab.demon.co.uk Web : http://www.wtgab.demon.co.uk Blog :

Re: ObBenford, sort of . . .

2010-05-16 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On May 16, 2010, at 7:49 AM, Ronn! Blankenship wrote: (Sorry, since the list won't allow graphics all I can post is the link.) Non Sequitur Comic Strip, May 16, 2010 on GoComics.com - http://www.gocomics.com/nonsequitur/2010/05/16/ How do they maintain the vacuum in the well?

Re: On Listmail

2010-05-04 Thread Bruce Bostwick
Stop burning it for fuel, and start using it for plastic feedstocks. And stop using 1000-year plastics for disposable packaging and start using them for stuff that will be around for 1000 years. On May 4, 2010, at 11:22 PM, Doug Pensinger wrote: Tax, conserve, find alternatives and leave

Re: On Listmail

2010-05-03 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On May 3, 2010, at 12:49 AM, Doug Pensinger wrote: Beyond that, you're right, we should stop using fossil fuels as quickly as is practicable. I favor large state and federal taxes on gas and oil to subsidize research and development on alternatives and the development of mass transit. Maybe

Re: On Listmail

2010-05-03 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On May 3, 2010, at 12:10 PM, Dan Minette wrote: No one could have envisioned, after already drilling the well and measuring all the downhole pressures, that during well changeover, there'd be enough pressure to push that much drill pipe outand that the drill pipe wouldn't be held by

Re: On Listmail

2010-05-03 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On May 3, 2010, at 1:47 PM, Alberto Monteiro wrote: Wind/solar energy resources are still seen as hippie fringe science in the parts of the world where oil is still king, Not everywhere. P = k v^3 Maru Alberto Monteiro You are correct, sir. ;) Go ahead and do it, you can apologize

Re: On Listmail

2010-04-29 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Apr 28, 2010, at 11:26 PM, John Williams wrote: From my point of view, the current political situation in the US is a disaster and just too depressing to even think about. It is depressing, isn't it? What passes for discourse in this country these days brings images to my mind of tribes

Re: On Listmail

2010-04-28 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Apr 28, 2010, at 11:07 PM, Doug Pensinger wrote: Facebook is the only social network I frequent and while I think it's great and has its place, it's a terrible forum for any kind of serious political debate. For one thing, many of the people you know intimately are probably there, and if

Re: KJ6FOI

2010-02-26 Thread Bruce Bostwick
Congratulations! When are you going back in for your General and/or Extra? ;) -de N5VB, EM10gi (might at some indeterminate point in the future be up on 20 meter PSK31, but for now is stuck on 2m/440 FM repeaters, fortunately accessible via IRLP) On Feb 25, 2010, at 8:43 PM, Nick Arnett

Re: KJ6FOI

2010-02-26 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Feb 25, 2010, at 9:47 PM, John Williams wrote: On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 7:37 PM, Nick Arnett nick.arn...@gmail.com wrote: However, some of the spectrum is still restricted to CW (code) only. Right, the masochist channels :-) Or, perhaps, the apocalypse practice channels. It's a

Re: KJ6FOI

2010-02-26 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Feb 25, 2010, at 9:47 PM, John Williams wrote: On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 7:37 PM, Nick Arnett nick.arn...@gmail.com wrote: However, some of the spectrum is still restricted to CW (code) only. Right, the masochist channels :-) Or, perhaps, the apocalypse practice channels. There's

Re: KJ6FOI

2010-02-26 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Feb 26, 2010, at 1:29 PM, Nick Arnett wrote: On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 9:19 AM, Bruce Bostwick lihan161...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Congratulations! When are you going back in for your General and/or Extra? ;) The examiners tried to talk me into doing the General immediately, but I didn't

Re: KJ6FOI

2010-02-26 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Feb 26, 2010, at 1:33 PM, Nick Arnett wrote: And the possibilities only multiply when you feed that audio from the radio into, say, the sound card of a computer, and vice versa. DigiPan is only one of a nearly infinite number of possible examples of that. All the DSP capability of

Re: Today's EE/Physics homework assignment . . .

2010-02-22 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Feb 22, 2010, at 9:10 AM, Dave Land wrote: On Feb 20, 2010, at 7:52 PM, Ronn! Blankenship wrote: http://thereifixedit.com/2010/02/20/epic-kludge-photo-resistance-is-futile/ Beats the heck out of a trip to the hardware store, if you happen to have a bag of those things hanging around.

Re: Unsolvable and beyond compromise.

2010-02-22 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Feb 22, 2010, at 4:27 PM, Trent Shipley wrote: http://alturl.com/s5id Republicans would have to be suicidal idiots to play ball with Obama and the Democrats on health care reform. They all involve increased interference by the Federal Government in the health care market, which is

Re: ping

2010-02-09 Thread Bruce Bostwick
NAK On Feb 9, 2010, at 8:12 PM, Trent Shipley wrote: Ping! Of all forms of caution, caution in love is perhaps the most fatal to true happiness. -- Bertrand Russell ___ http://box535.bluehost.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com

Re: Is this thing on?

2010-01-26 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Jan 26, 2010, at 11:17 AM, Ronn! Blankenship wrote: At 05:53 PM Monday 1/25/2010, Julia wrote: I love wearing a Workman model Utilikilt and sticking a hammer in the tool loop, just so *I* can answer the question, How's the hammer hanging? (Of course, it doesn't happen often, and is

Re: Getting ballpoint pen off laptop screen?

2010-01-07 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Jan 7, 2010, at 10:53 PM, Michael Harney wrote: Julia wrote: What's the best thing to do for that? And, just as importantly, what should be avoided at all costs? Julia ___ http://mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com

Re: SciFi and Fantasy(?) Wiki

2009-12-29 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Dec 29, 2009, at 5:36 AM, Alberto Monteiro wrote: For example, why on Hell should a site or list dedicated to, say, Linux, include advertisings about Viagra? Because someone, somewhere, has decided that we all need to see ads for Viagra every hour of the day, no matter where we are, and

Re: Avatar

2009-12-24 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Dec 23, 2009, at 2:56 PM, Max Battcher wrote: On 12/23/2009 13:11, Julia wrote: When I've seen the preview, I've had uncanny valley issues. I don't think I could sit through the whole thing without having a brain-ache. :( I don't think the previews do justice to the film because this

Re: Kid's telescope buying advice?

2009-12-10 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Dec 10, 2009, at 3:59 AM, Charlie Bell wrote: On 10/12/2009, at 6:26 PM, Bryon Daly wrote: *Delurking* I could use some telescope purchasing advice, if anyone's interested in helping. My astonomy knowledge is quite limited. I'd say you'd be better off getting a decent 'scope for the

Re: Fake religion

2009-12-04 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Dec 4, 2009, at 6:48 PM, Dave Land wrote: On Dec 4, 2009, at 8:52 AM, William T Goodall wrote: On 3 Dec 2009, at 21:11, Bruce Bostwick wrote: All religions are fake from the perspective of those seeing them from outside. No religion is fake from the perspective of its true believers

Re: Fake religion

2009-12-03 Thread Bruce Bostwick
Sorry, the page you were looking for in the blog Infinite Complacency does not exist. On Dec 1, 2009, at 7:40 PM, William T Goodall wrote: http://infinitecomplacency.blogspot.com/2009/11/16-john-lindsteins-lawsuit.html The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed

Re: Fake religion

2009-12-03 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Dec 3, 2009, at 2:46 PM, Julia wrote: -Original Message- From: brin-l-boun...@mccmedia.com [mailto:brin-l- boun...@mccmedia.com] On Behalf Of Bruce Bostwick Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 9:28 AM To: Killer Bs (David Brin et al) Discussion Subject: Re: Fake religion Sorry

Re: Fake religion

2009-12-03 Thread Bruce Bostwick
All religions are fake from the perspective of those seeing them from outside. No religion is fake from the perspective of its true believers. Not a very useful metric, all things considered. (Alignment with the majority perspective isn't much more useful, either, unfortunately, as in the

Re: List of The 50 Best Inventions of 2009

2009-11-19 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Nov 19, 2009, at 6:44 AM, Andrew Crystall wrote: On 18 Nov 2009 at 20:40, Bruce Bostwick wrote: Considering the fact that the only two loss of vehicle and crew events NASA has ever had to deal with that actually involved going into or coming back from space (not counting Apollo 1

Re: List of The 50 Best Inventions of 2009

2009-11-19 Thread Bruce Bostwick
Oh, and while we're talking about STS .. why is it, exactly, that NASA has been dropping all of those ET's back into the atmosphere to burn up, after spending the $10k/pound to get them up there, and not saving them on-orbit as construction material? I know they've considered keeping them

Re: List of The 50 Best Inventions of 2009

2009-11-19 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Nov 19, 2009, at 11:15 AM, Andrew Crystall wrote: On 19 Nov 2009 at 8:19, Bruce Bostwick wrote: Oh, and while we're talking about STS .. why is it, exactly, that NASA has been dropping all of those ET's back into the atmosphere to burn up, after spending the $10k/pound to get them up

Re: List of The 50 Best Inventions of 2009

2009-11-19 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Nov 19, 2009, at 1:16 PM, Alberto Monteiro wrote: Bruce Bostwick wrote: That being said, what I really wish someone would propose is sending a robot propulsion/navigation system out to a conveniently sized nickel/ iron asteroid, bring it home, and park it in an orbit high enough to keep

Re: List of The 50 Best Inventions of 2009

2009-11-19 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Nov 19, 2009, at 4:50 PM, Andrew Crystall wrote: That being said, what I really wish someone would propose is sending a robot propulsion/navigation system out to a conveniently sized nickel/ iron asteroid, bring it home, and park it in an orbit high enough to Question: Would you need

Re: List of The 50 Best Inventions of 2009

2009-11-18 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Nov 18, 2009, at 7:12 PM, Ronn! Blankenship wrote: At 05:42 PM Tuesday 11/17/2009, Andrew Crystall wrote: On 17 Nov 2009 at 12:48, Ronn! Blankenship wrote: starts here . . . The Best Invention of the Year: NASA's Ares Rockets The 50 Best Inventions of 2009 - TIME

Re: Nomenclature (was) Chemicals R Us

2009-11-18 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Nov 18, 2009, at 8:09 PM, Rceeberger wrote: On 11/18/2009 7:00:59 PM, Ronn! Blankenship (ronn_blankens...@bellsouth.net ) wrote: At 11:58 AM Wednesday 11/18/2009, Deborah Harrell wrote: I'll bet there's a difference of wording -- 'organic chemistry' here primarily refers to

Re: List of The 50 Best Inventions of 2009

2009-11-18 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Nov 17, 2009, at 5:42 PM, Andrew Crystall wrote: On 17 Nov 2009 at 12:48, Ronn! Blankenship wrote: starts here . . . The Best Invention of the Year: NASA's Ares Rockets The 50 Best Inventions of 2009 - TIME

Re: For those still following the 'balloon boy' fracas

2009-11-13 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Nov 12, 2009, at 8:54 PM, Deborah Harrell wrote: Richard Heene will plead guilty to attempting to influence a public servant, a felony, with a stipulated sentence to probation, according to the statement. He could face two to six years in the Department of Corrections and a fine of up

Re: Microsith's evil ways [was: For those still following the 'balloon boy' fracas]

2009-11-13 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Nov 13, 2009, at 7:28 AM, Alberto Monteiro wrote: Bruce Bostwick quoted: 'How do I print, Mr. Kahn?’ ‘How do I save?’ It’s Control-S! It’s ALWAYS Control-S!!” — Kahn Souphanousinphone Not if you are doomed with M$'s products in other languages. The idiots that ported Word, Excel, etc

Re: Microsith's evil ways [was: For those still following the 'balloon boy' fracas]

2009-11-13 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Nov 13, 2009, at 7:28 AM, Alberto Monteiro wrote: Bruce Bostwick quoted: 'How do I print, Mr. Kahn?’ ‘How do I save?’ It’s Control-S! It’s ALWAYS Control-S!!” — Kahn Souphanousinphone Not if you are doomed with M$'s products in other languages. The idiots that ported Word, Excel, etc

Re: The thread about the thread Re: DeLong on health insurance reform

2009-10-25 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Oct 25, 2009, at 8:06 PM, Deborah Harrell wrote: On Sun, 10/25/09, Doug Pensinger brig...@zo.com wrote: snippage Good to hear from you all that haven't posted much, maybe we can get a rip roaring discussion going. Anybody over hear read Banks' new one? Hey, guess who's posting from

Re: Cloud Computing Smears (Was: Google Wave)

2009-10-18 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Oct 18, 2009, at 12:25 AM, Max Battcher wrote: On 10/18/2009 0:38, John Williams wrote: On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 8:36 PM, Julia Thompsonf...@zurg.net wrote: Er. In that sort of a situation, I myself would set up a RAID for storing the data, *much* less chance for losing it. RAID

Re: Google Wave

2009-10-15 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Oct 15, 2009, at 3:03 PM, Max Battcher wrote: Jo Anne wrote: OK, Guys, what the heck is Google Wave? Is it like what Twits do with Tweets? I know what a beta test is, but a Google Wave? Speak slowly and directly into the microphone, please. It depends on who you ask and how much

Re: Google Wave

2009-10-15 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Oct 15, 2009, at 4:35 PM, Max Battcher wrote: Bruce Bostwick wrote: I haven't chimed in on Wave or the more general subject of cloud computing yet, since I haven't used it yet (which, in some people's judgment, makes me ineligible to comment, although I consider that a questionable

Re: Wife's suggestion!

2009-09-22 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Sep 22, 2009, at 1:36 AM, Doug Pensinger wrote: Yes but, calling the U.S. a Christian nation is a little beyond the merest mention. More than a little, although in this case, the usage didn't seem to be malicious. The origin of that phrase is a multilayered equivocation on the part

Re: Wife's suggestion!

2009-09-22 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Sep 22, 2009, at 3:20 AM, Charlie Bell wrote: I agree with Bruce that in general lessons ascribed to Jesus are about love and acceptance of the other. That's the widely perceived view of them, yes. Doesn't totally hold water if you actually read the New Testament, but yes - if people

Re: Wife's suggestion!

2009-09-22 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Sep 22, 2009, at 10:46 AM, Nick Arnett wrote: On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 1:20 AM, Charlie Bell char...@culturelist.org wrote: That's the widely perceived view of them, yes. Doesn't totally hold water if you actually read the New Testament, but yes - if people tried to act a bit nicer

Re: Wife's suggestion!

2009-09-21 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Sep 21, 2009, at 2:09 PM, Chris Frandsen relayed: Bottom line—We profess to be a Christian nation. It is appropriate to ask, “What would Jesus say and do?” I imagine he disagreed with the actions of those cheating tax collectors and adulterous women he befriended. Yet, we have no

Re: Knowledge of Complex Systems and Ecch-onomics

2009-09-14 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Sep 10, 2009, at 10:16 PM, Ronn! Blankenship wrote: At 04:44 PM Thursday 9/10/2009, Chris Frandsen wrote: Here a title I have never heard before, Econophysicist! How long until we hear about Relativistic Inflation . . . ? :P Well, Hubble expansion certainly seems to apply .. :D -b

Re: Regulation and the financial crisis

2009-09-14 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Sep 14, 2009, at 11:29 AM, John Williams wrote: On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 7:41 AM, Bruce Bostwick lihan161...@sbcglobal.net wrote: I think you're oversimplifying the arguments for regulation. I don't believe anyone involved in the process seriously believes regulation is a one-dimensional

Re: Regulation and the financial crisis

2009-09-14 Thread Bruce Bostwick
I think you're oversimplifying the arguments for regulation. I don't believe anyone involved in the process seriously believes regulation is a one-dimensional parameter, and I think it's disingenuous to suggest that supporters of plans that involve regulation that is stricter overall are

Re: DeLong on health insurance reform

2009-09-08 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Sep 8, 2009, at 4:19 PM, John Williams wrote: If you really want to discuss this again, please start a new thread and ask me again. *If*. ___ http://mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com

Re: DeLong on health insurance reform

2009-09-07 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Sep 7, 2009, at 2:57, Ronn! Blankenship ronn_blankens...@bellsouth.net wrote: At 02:19 AM Monday 9/7/2009, Charlie Bell wrote: On 07/09/2009, at 8:36 AM, Nick Arnett wrote: On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 3:27 PM, Ronn! Blankenship ronn_blankens...@bellsouth.net wrote: Some people fear

Re: Where's Waldo

2009-09-06 Thread Bruce Bostwick
And not bring it home and use it to decorate their front yard, or convert it into a barbeque grill .. On Sep 6, 2009, at 12:10 AM, Michael Harney wrote: The lab hopes boaters out for the busy Labor Day weekend might spot Waldo. The best way to take control over a people and control them

Re: DeLong on health insurance reform

2009-09-06 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Sep 6, 2009, at 4:21 PM, John Williams wrote: Taking away my money against my will and limiting my choices for what kind of health care I can purchase is taking away my freedom of choice. Freedom of choice is never absolute. And it is always limited by the need to balance that freedom

Re: DeLong on health insurance reform

2009-09-06 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Sep 6, 2009, at 5:12 PM, John Williams wrote: Really? Would you literally come to my house with a gun and force me to give you money, telling me that you know better who it should be spent on than I do? If your idea of how to spend it involves leaving people to the nonexistent mercy of a

Re: DeLong on health insurance reform

2009-09-06 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Sep 6, 2009, at 5:47 PM, Ronn! Blankenship wrote: At 05:12 PM Sunday 9/6/2009, John Williams wrote: On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 2:50 PM, David Hobbyhob...@newpaltz.edu wrote: This is why I've quit talking with you about health insurance. When pressed, your bottom line seems to be

Re: DeLong on health insurance reform

2009-09-06 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Sep 6, 2009, at 7:16 PM, John Williams wrote: On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 4:38 PM, Bruce Bostwicklihan161...@sbcglobal.net wrote: If not, what exactly *do* you propose as an alternative to public-option health care for people who aren't fortunate enough to be able to afford health insurance

Re: DeLong on health insurance reform

2009-09-06 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Sep 6, 2009, at 8:11 PM, John Williams wrote: On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 5:58 PM, Rceebergerrceeber...@comcast.net wrote: On 9/6/2009 7:47:52 PM, John Williams (jwilliams4...@gmail.com) wrote: On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 5:44 PM, Rceebergerrceeber...@comcast.net wrote: We do not tax

Re: DeLong on health insurance reform

2009-09-06 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Sep 6, 2009, at 8:30 PM, John Williams wrote: Prove that you are actively supporting those people with every cent you can spare on par with what you suggest to Bruce. You obviously have a computer, therefore you are a hypocrite. I am not advocating taking other people's money, as Bruce

Re: Posted in a workcube

2009-08-30 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Aug 30, 2009, at 9:16 PM, Doug Pensinger wrote: rob wrote: I will not brew Decaf. Decaf is the mind-killer. Decaf brings the little sleep that leads to total oblivion. I will embrace my caffeine. I will brew my beverages and let them... flow through me, and when they are gone, I will

Re: More Pluto Goofyness . . .

2009-08-26 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Aug 26, 2009, at 8:24 AM, Alberto Monteiro wrote: Probably (my guess) Mars's moons are recent acquisitions, and won't last forever. Venus and Mercury may have had moonlets in the past too, that lasted a few million years and then either crashed or flew away. And it's entirely likely that

Re: More Pluto Goofyness . . .

2009-08-26 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Aug 26, 2009, at 12:10 PM, David Hobby wrote: And why with 100+ moons, none of them has a sub-moon? My guess would be that there just aren't many stable solutions to a close-in three-body problem like that. Jupiter's gravitational effects dominate the orbital dynamics of a good part of

Re: More Pluto Goofyness . . .

2009-08-25 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Aug 25, 2009, at 6:03 PM, Ronn! Blankenship wrote: What's a planet? Debate over Pluto rages on - CNN.com http://www.cnn.com/2009/TECH/space/08/24/pluto.dwarf.planet/index.html http://www.thinkgeek.com/tshirts-apparel/unisex/sciencemath/8964/

Re: List administrators: list broken!

2009-08-21 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Aug 21, 2009, at 11:53 AM, Lance A. Brown wrote: Heh. I thought the list had just taken a deep breath. Instead it appears something has gone awry. I, too, am not receiving everything that is listed in the archive. --[Lance] .. there's an archive? :\ The whole aim of practical politics

Re: Passive-Agressive posting (was Re: The Role of Government in a Libertarian Free Market)

2009-08-18 Thread Bruce Bostwick
Yeah, Eliza and Parry could be quite entertaining if they talked to each other. Eliza and Racter could be too, but Eliza didn't get to say much in those conversations .. On Aug 18, 2009, at 4:08 PM, Patrick Sweeney wrote: It's kind of like playing with that old Eliza computer program.

Re: A Real Free Market in Health Care

2009-08-13 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Aug 12, 2009, at 8:30 PM, dsummersmi...@comcast.net wrote: Compassion, folks. IAAMOAC. And remember .. http://xkcd.com/386/ .. because it's always, *always*, true. :D When you mention that we want five debates, say what they are: one on the economy, one on foreign policy, with

Re: The Role of Government in a Libertarian Free Market

2009-08-13 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Aug 12, 2009, at 10:02 PM, Dan M wrote: No, that is the fault of the laws as written. The problem with the court system is that they do not understand enough to enforce the laws as written. There is also the problem of laws written by people who often fail to anticipate the

Re: Politicians sell out again

2009-08-12 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Aug 11, 2009, at 6:28 PM, Max Battcher wrote: On 8/11/2009 18:53, Trent Shipley wrote: More fundamental is his objection to the U.S. Government. In effect, he is saying that the U.S. system of government is inherently illegitimate, largely because it is run by politicians. By John

Re: On 'Incomprehesibility'

2009-08-03 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Aug 2, 2009, at 11:24 PM, David Hobby wrote: William T Goodall wrote: On 1 Aug 2009, at 22:14, David Hobby wrote: William T Goodall wrote: ... NTSC vs. PAL: Not a fair criticism. That mess was created a LONG time ago, and was also a problem with VHS tapes. (A bigger problem, since the

Re: Brin: On Incomprehensibility'

2009-08-02 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Aug 1, 2009, at 10:15 PM, Ronn! Blankenship wrote: At 07:31 PM Saturday 8/1/2009, David Brin wrote: Today's DVD's 1- are not universal if you record on minus or plus mode and many units throw fits, even then Another problem, at least with the unit I have, is that if I want to

Re: Brin: On Incomprehensibility'

2009-08-02 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Aug 2, 2009, at 7:17 PM, Ronn! Blankenship wrote: And the mandated DTV changeover was just another excuse to get money out of people who were satisfied with things the way they were, even those who have little or naught to spare. . . . ronn! :) On that, I'll agree with you. Did we

Re: WeChooseTheMoon

2009-07-16 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Jul 16, 2009, at 3:34 PM, John Garcia wrote: Alan Shepard launched in May 1961. The last lunar mission, Apollo 17 launched in Dec 1972. Eleven years to go from one sub-orbital flight to spending 3 days on the moon. That is an incredible accomplishment, the likes of which we may never

Re: Whatcha reading? (was Re: In despair for the state of SF)

2009-07-14 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Jul 14, 2009, at 10:37 AM, Nick Arnett wrote: Anathem struck me as somewhat desperate in its invention of language, but it all made sense in the end. I'm not sure the book deserved to be so long, but on the other hand, I was never particularly tempted to give up on it. Stephenson

Re: Google Operating System

2009-07-09 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Jul 9, 2009, at 9:11 AM, Mauro Diotallevi wrote: http://fakesteve.blogspot.com/2009/07/lets-all-take-deep-breath-and-get-some.html It's brilliant start to finish, but I especially liked: Trying to make an OS out of Chrome is like saying you're going to turn a Pontiac Aztek into a

Re: Google Operating System

2009-07-09 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Jul 9, 2009, at 10:50 AM, Dave Land wrote: I am not like our friend Mario with his 57 Varieties approach to operating systems. I use Mac OS X almost exclusively because operating system fit and finish matter to me. (This is not a statement of superiority to Mario, merely noting a

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