Re: Obama II

2014-03-02 Thread Doug Pensinger
Actually, bugs/design flaws caught during the design phase cost far less than those discovered during the build. Doug GSV Prior Planning Prevents Piss Poor Performance ___ http://box535.bluehost.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com

Re:

2014-03-02 Thread Doug Pensinger
Yea, what's the deal? Anyone home? Anyone read anything good/interesting? I recently listened to For Whom the Bell Tolls and am now listening to a book called The Mongoliad, Greg Bear being one of several co-authors. The Hemingway was very stark and depressing and a bit obsessed with death but

Re: Electronic interface options

2011-09-20 Thread Doug Pensinger
this, I just searched you on g+ and added you to my Brin circle! I wonder if there's a way to streamline or transparentize the process. • Warren • off console • w azkrmc.com • h nightwares.com • On Sep 19, 2011, at 21:58, Doug Pensinger brig...@zo.com wrote: I have a Brin-l circle on G

Re: Testing...

2011-09-19 Thread Doug Pensinger
Charlie wrote: Living In A Land Down Under You better run, you better take cover. Doug Californication ___ http://box535.bluehost.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com

Re: Electronic interface options

2011-09-19 Thread Doug Pensinger
Personally, I like this format over FB, and maybe over G+ too. The fan sites have much less a sense of community than this list has (or had). I use Gmail and it automatically hides quoted text so that's not a big issue (it also has the best spam filter by far that I've come across). FB is good

Re: ADMIN: Re: Delivery Status Notification (Failure), was Re: Night Owls Demand Equal Rights!

2011-09-18 Thread Doug Pensinger
Me neither. Hi Ticia, good to hear from you. Doug On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 5:05 PM, Matt Grimaldi matzeb...@yahoo.com wrote: I DON'T get such messages when sending on the list. -- Matt ___

Spoilers?

2011-08-15 Thread Doug Pensinger
http://www.scientificamerican.com/podcast/episode.cfm?id=spoiling-the-ending-makes-for-a-bet-11-08-14WT.mc_id=SA_DD_20110815#comments What do you think? Should we forgo the spoiler alerts? Doug ___

Re: Brin-l Digest, Vol 29, Issue 8

2011-07-22 Thread Doug Pensinger
Hi Jo Anne, G+ is cool in that you can set up different circles of people and then post to one, a few or all of them. You can have a brin-l circle and use it kind of like the email list since, at the click of a button you can view just the brin-l (or family or friend etc) posts. There are a few

Re: Google+

2011-07-22 Thread Doug Pensinger
Hi Jo Anne. Just go to your apps store on your smarter than me phone (I've got one too) and type in G+ DB just friended me (or whatever you call it on +). I'm glad _he's_ got a short memory. Doug On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 6:12 PM, Dave Land dml...@gmail.com wrote: On Jul 22, 2011, at 5:45 PM,

Re: Facebook is evil

2010-12-08 Thread Doug Pensinger
Alberto wrote: Try replacing breastfeeding with something else, like Hammer and Sickle or cleft lip. They shouldn't be allowed to censor and criminalize something that is not criminal. If they want to censor images of people smoking marijuana, or images of children with guns (and I bet they

Re: WikiLeaks

2010-12-01 Thread Doug Pensinger
Jon wrote: Anyone with clearance to that level is personally responsible and signed an oath. 23-year-old, Bradley Manning, a US army intelligence analyst, e-mailed former hacker, Adrian Lamo, bragging that he leaked the diplomatic cables to WikiLeaks, along with a highly classified video

Wikileaks

2010-11-30 Thread Doug Pensinger
There seems to be overwhelming sentiment against Wikileaks' release of confidential documents and I was wondering how people here (some of whom may have read Brin's Transparent Society) felt about it. I'm generally for transparency and haven't heard of anything yet that is beyond mildly

Re: Underwater mortgages and the economy

2010-11-03 Thread Doug Pensinger
Dan wrote: Well, the US did prosper from wars it has been in, but that's fairly unique. Germany didn't, France didn't.  The USSR didn't; the Cold War broke them. Eventually, but they were our supposed equals for the better part of forty years and one can easily imagine scenarios in which they

Re: Underwater mortgages and the economy

2010-11-03 Thread Doug Pensinger
Dan wrote: Me: First, let me assure anyone reading this that I in no way advocate war as a solution for anything, I'm just discussing the possible consequences of the State's current situation. Sure, if they invaded Europe in '79 and Carter wasn't willing to start Armageddon.  But, the

Re: Underwater mortgages and the economy

2010-11-02 Thread Doug Pensinger
Dan wrote: It is quite possible that we falter over the next two years, sliding back into depression.  One of the most depressing figures is that the average GDP growth rate for the last 30 years will result in unemployment increasing, since we need 3%/year growth to tread water. Not what I

Re: Underwater mortgages and the economy

2010-11-01 Thread Doug Pensinger
Dan wrote: So, we had a US economy that was really doing nothing, but lots of money looking for a US home...thus real estate, which the Risk Assessment Model said couldn't go down more than a couple %. Add to that the (hundreds of?) billions of dollars of tax cuts Bush gave to the wealthiest

Re: Underwater mortgages and the economy (Dan Minette)

2010-11-01 Thread Doug Pensinger
Keith wrote: Unfortunately I have no ideas about how to get this going, at least not in the US.  I think a rule change favoring longer term investments in physical plant will be needed before anyone will consider any such ideas. It needs to be recognized as a matter of national security.

Re: Down with the government

2010-10-17 Thread Doug Pensinger
Dan Minette That's what makes the Tea Party so interesting.  They are actually small government believers.  I don't say I agree with them, I have strong differences with them, but their candidates do have a self-consistent message.  I think most folks at their rallies don't think through

Re: Down with the government

2010-10-15 Thread Doug Pensinger
Leftists should recognize the right has a valid argument about wasteful government spending. I would argue that the right (the one that was in power anyway) was the one doing all the wasteful spending. The idea that the right is fiscally conservative _in practice_ is a farce. I'm not saying

Re: Down with the government!

2010-10-11 Thread Doug Pensinger
Electronic forums are the ideal venue for brainstorming solutions for social issues, as you can take time to edit your comments.  It also affords more people an opportunity to be less passive and have a voice.  Moderated sites work best to stay on topic and maintain civilized discourse. As

Re: Is anybody home?

2010-10-05 Thread Doug Pensinger
Hello old friends, I'm still hangin' Anybody reading a good book? I'm struggling through Hamilton's book Pandora's Star and hoping that Bank's new one will be in Kindle form soon. Maybe I'll re-read Anathem Doug On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 5:16 PM, kananda...@aol.com wrote: Finishing up a 3

Re: First Pluto is not a planet, and now . . . .

2010-09-07 Thread Doug Pensinger
On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 12:44 AM, Euan Ritchie e...@ritchie.net.nz wrote: They also believe... ...that some cosmic jewish zombie, who is his own father, can make you live forever if you symbolicawy eat his flesh and telepathically tell him that you accept him as your master, so he can remove

Tea Party Racism

2010-07-25 Thread Doug Pensinger
Is the Tea Party fundamentally racist? Or is it just coincidental that it formed as a black man was taking office? For years, Republicans were in office busting the budget and passing bills like Medicare D which was completely unfunded and will cost us something like $72 B a year. Where was the

Re: Having kids makes some people fulfilled

2010-07-08 Thread Doug Pensinger
I've got two grown kids (30 and 32) and two grandkids (5,3) and while there were moments of profound unhappiness and extreme distress during their upbringing, nothing in my life even comes close to the sense of fulfillment and accomplishment I get from having raised them. From the article: About

Re: Archives

2010-07-03 Thread Doug Pensinger
Jeroen wrote: Why do you ask, Doug? Planning on a second attempt at building a List Archive? No, just interested in reading some of the old threads. Doug ___ http://box535.bluehost.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com

Archives

2010-06-13 Thread Doug Pensinger
Nick; are the archives accessed from the list page all that are available? Doug ___ http://box535.bluehost.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com

Re: On Listmail

2010-05-04 Thread Doug Pensinger
Dan Minette wrote: Well, I'm just pointing out that the California wants to protect the whole coast but has been happy driving cars with gas refined near Houston from offshore GOM.  Why is the GOM shoreline so much lower in value the California shoreline?  And, if you stop offshore

Re: A Link for Dan

2010-05-02 Thread Doug Pensinger
My mistake. Posted on a fan page for Niel Stephenson. Stephenson has no facebook presence. Doug On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 7:20 PM, Doug Pensinger brig...@zo.com wrote: Posted to Facebook by Niel Stephenson http://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?db=comicsid=1868 Doug

Re: On Listmail

2010-05-02 Thread Doug Pensinger
Hi Dan, I'm glad to see you're still around and that you've escaped Houston. You wrote: Doug, as shocking and horrendous as the accident was, (the entire bottom casing was blown up miles by the gas pressure) I am no fan of NIMBY.  If you want to stop drilling for oil, then California should

A Link for Dan

2010-05-01 Thread Doug Pensinger
Posted to Facebook by Niel Stephenson http://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?db=comicsid=1868 Doug ___ http://box535.bluehost.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com

Re: On Listmail

2010-04-29 Thread Doug Pensinger
Alberto wrote: Yes and no. I seldom check my e-mails these days, and I spend most of my free internet time in wikis. Hey Alberto, how are you? I heard you had a little rainstorm down there a few weeks ago; what was it 21 inches? What wikis? Doug

Re: On Listmail

2010-04-29 Thread Doug Pensinger
Alberto wrote: I hate inches :-( Oops, sorry. Over 50 cm then? Doug Short for communist, I think 8^) ___ http://box535.bluehost.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com

Oil Rigs

2010-04-28 Thread Doug Pensinger
So Dan,. are you still here? Do you still want to talk me into putting rigs off of Big Sur? Doug ___ http://box535.bluehost.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com

On Listmail

2010-04-28 Thread Doug Pensinger
Ahem. Hello? Anyone here? I'm kind of curious about what happened to the volume of mail in groups like Brin-L and the Culture list. I have an idea that at first, several years ago now, the emergence of blogging sucked a lot of people away from list mail. And now social networking sites have

Re: On Listmail

2010-04-28 Thread Doug Pensinger
Bruce wrote: Facebook is a pretty terrible forum for almost anything serious.  I've never seen a site that seems to discourage any kind of in depth discussion so effectively by design.  The notes feature is the closest thing it has to an actual writing-based feature, and even that is hidden

Re: On Listmail

2010-04-28 Thread Doug Pensinger
John wrote: I agree with most of what you say, but I just haven't felt like starting any discussions on this list recently. The two main things that I have previously been interested in discussing here are SF and politics. From my point of view, the current political situation in the US is a

The Story of Stuff

2010-03-18 Thread Doug Pensinger
Anyone else seen this? http://www.storyofstuff.com/ Doug ___ http://box535.bluehost.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com

Re: Social solutions rather than engineering ones

2010-02-22 Thread Doug Pensinger
Dave wrote: Trent has opined similarly in the past, with a tone that says that a significant human die-off is perfectly acceptable to him. On at least one occasion, I believe he was invited to go first. I am of neither the opinion that such a die-off is acceptable nor that he should be first

Re: Unsolvable and beyond compromise.

2010-02-22 Thread Doug Pensinger
Trent wrote: Republicans would have to be suicidal idiots to play ball with Obama and the Democrats on health care reform.   They all involve increased interference by the Federal Government in the health care market, which is a cultural no-no in America.  (Leaving people uninsured is also a

Re: Br?n on global warming

2010-02-17 Thread Doug Pensinger
Alberto wrote: Probably not, we are very stupid when it comes down to the math used in astrodynamics, chemistry or economy. Alberto Monteiro Or very sarcastic. Doug ___ http://box535.bluehost.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com

Re: Platform for gathering memories?

2010-01-08 Thread Doug Pensinger
On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 11:46 AM, Dave Land dml...@gmail.com wrote: On Jan 8, 2010, at 2:50 AM, Alberto Monteiro wrote: Wikipedia once began a project dedicated to the memories of the victims of 9/11, but latter the scope was changed to include the memories of everyone. I guess the project is

Re: The worst

2010-01-04 Thread Doug Pensinger
Nick, I'm so sorry to hear of your loss. My condolences to you and your family. Doug ___ http://mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com

Re: Avatar

2009-12-26 Thread Doug Pensinger
Ronn! wrote: Complete article: Op-Ed Columnist - Heaven and Nature - NYTimes.com - http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/21/opinion/21douthat1.html http://tinyurl.com/ye43c8x He concludes: Religion exists, in part, precisely because humans aren’t at home amid these cruel rhythms. We stand half

Avatar

2009-12-21 Thread Doug Pensinger
I saw Avatar last night in the Imax/3D format. It was by far the most awesome audio/visual experience I've ever had. The story was fair to good, but the eye candy was spectacular. I wouldn't have thought I could get vertigo while sitting in a comfortable arm chair. Cool; see it and pay the

Re: List of The 50 Best Inventions of 2009

2009-11-19 Thread Doug Pensinger
Bruce Bostwick wrote: Not as tall an order as it might sound, using something like VASIMR which has an Isp of up to 5000 s.  Once you get out of the atmosphere, a higher efficiency engine system can spread out the delta-V across a fairly large period of time, and with enough engines and

Google Wave

2009-11-01 Thread Doug Pensinger
So??? I tried signing up via their website but haven't heard anything. What's the scoop? Doug ___ http://mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com

Re: The thread about the thread Re: DeLong on health insurance reform

2009-10-25 Thread Doug Pensinger
Julia wrote: It's amazing what you find needs doing when you finally have all your kids in school for a full day for the first time ever.  I might have most of it done by the time school gets out in early June! I've heard the same thing about retirement; my brother-in-law and his brother,

Re: The thread about the thread Re: DeLong on health insurance reform

2009-10-25 Thread Doug Pensinger
Debbi wrote: Hey, guess who's posting from home for the first time? (I did have some serious help getting stuff hooked up, and I still hate this laptop's 'finger mouse.' -- hmm, hadn't thought of what that conjures up, but it's entirely apt...) Congrats on the new job, and on getting your

Cool Map

2009-10-20 Thread Doug Pensinger
50 years of space exploration http://books.nationalgeographic.com/map/map-day/index Doug ___ http://mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com

Re: Google Wave

2009-10-14 Thread Doug Pensinger
Looks cool, count me in please. Use brig...@zo.com Thanks, Doug On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 2:07 PM, Wayne Eddy we...@bigpond.net.au wrote: Hi all, I just got access to Google Wave, and I was wondering if there was anyone on the list who might be interested in helping my try it out by joining a

Re: What's to read?

2009-09-22 Thread Doug Pensinger
Pat wrote: I have a Sony 505. The books on my reader are on my reader and on my desktop, not on my account on someone else's server. If anyone wants to delete them [think 1984] or whatever, they have to physically steal my reader and then delete the book. I own them outright. Nobody else has

Re: What's to read?

2009-09-22 Thread Doug Pensinger
John wrote: But hopefully none of that is necessary in the future. I just want to see the book selection increase. It still boggles my mind why so few books released before the Kindle, but in the last 30 years or so, have come out in Kindle or other e-book formats. Someone must have a

Re: Wife's suggestion!

2009-09-22 Thread Doug Pensinger
Dave wrote: Amen, brother! I think that the harsh immune response from some quarters to the merest mention of religion is a symptom of our general inability to be generous, kind, civil, open and _listening_. Yes but, calling the U.S. a Christian nation is a little beyond the merest mention.

What's to read?

2009-09-21 Thread Doug Pensinger
I just finished reading a bio of the Sun King, Louis XIV of France. I was inspired to read it after having read The Three Musketeers which actually took place during the reign of 14's father (maybe) Louis XIII and by Stephenson's Baroque Cycle which I actually finished a few years ago. TTM was a

Re: The thread about the thread Re: DeLong on health insurance reform

2009-09-13 Thread Doug Pensinger
Ray wrote: The change of seasons is not as obvious here as it seemed to be in the States as we toured around last year. We don't go from ridiculous negative temperatures to extreme heat as for example in Colorado. It's gradually getting warmer now (the low 20s C) and it looks like we might be

Re: DeLong on health insurance reform

2009-09-13 Thread Doug Pensinger
John Williams wrote: Actually, the source of the article is the author, James V. DeLong. The publisher is The American, and the owner of the publisher is the American Enterprise Institute. The latter being one of the driving forces behind the failed conservative revolution and the miserable

Re: From CNN: Democratic leaders in Congress soften on public option

2009-09-13 Thread Doug Pensinger
John Williams wrote: [1] I know that reformers claim the government option would not be subsidized, but I find that extremely hard to believe. I'm afraid it would end up sucking down taxpayer money quite soon. Who's paying for the uninsured right now? Are we just telling them they are SOL

Re: The thread about the thread Re: DeLong on health insurance reform

2009-09-12 Thread Doug Pensinger
Ray wrote: I fail to see what difference it makes how often I am involved. Surely this should be the case with or without my participation! Hi Ray, glad to see you're still hanging out. Are you ready for spring, or does it make that much of a difference? I know you were kidding, but as far

Re: From CNN: Democratic leaders in Congress soften on public option

2009-09-12 Thread Doug Pensinger
Ronn! wrote: God bless America, Land that I love! Stand beside her, and guide her Thru the night with a light from above. Or, as someone I know once sang it, from a bulb Doug ___ http://mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com

Re: DeLong on health insurance reform

2009-09-12 Thread Doug Pensinger
John Williams wrote: They changed the link. Here is the new one: http://american.com/archive/2009/august/maybe-we-should-spend-more-on-healthcare Yikes. Let's first look at the source of the article, The American Enterprise Institute. Described in Wiki as some of the leading architects of

Re: DeLong on health insurance reform

2009-09-06 Thread Doug Pensinger
On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 8:23 AM, John Williamsjwilliams4...@gmail.com wrote: DeLong (the other one) on health care costs and health insurance reform. http://american.com/archive/2009/maybe-we-should-spend-more-on-healthcare | So what should be done about healthcare costs? Many things,

Re: Ben Bernanke, fearless leader

2009-09-01 Thread Doug Pensinger
John Williams wrote: Can some complex systems be analyzed by comparison to a more simple system? Sure, there are plenty of examples, although most of them are in the physical sciences rather than the social sciences. Asimov's psychohistory made a great story, but it does not work in

Re: Ben Bernanke, fearless leader

2009-08-31 Thread Doug Pensinger
John Williams wrote: It was not bitching, there was a point I was trying to make: taking a complicated system like the US economy, and comparing it to something far less complex, and then drawing conclusions from the simple comparison leads to incorrect information, and overconfident

Re: Ben Bernanke, fearless leader

2009-08-30 Thread Doug Pensinger
John Williams wrote: So now you implicitly claim not only to be able to predict what would happen if the government did not intervene immediately after the various investment bank problems, but also what would have happened many months after that under the influence of unknown intervention

Re: Ben Bernanke, fearless leader

2009-08-30 Thread Doug Pensinger
John Williams wrote: Taking a complicated situation and equating it to a simple one, and then assuming that what holds for the simple situation holds for the complex one, is likely to lead to incorrect information, flawed decisions, and overconfidence in one's ability to predict the

Re: Posted in a workcube

2009-08-30 Thread Doug Pensinger
rob wrote: I will not brew Decaf. Decaf is the mind-killer. Decaf brings the little sleep that leads to total oblivion. I will embrace my caffeine. I will brew my beverages and let them... flow through me, and when they are gone, I will remain...alert wtf are you doing in a workcube

Re: Ben Bernanke, fearless leader

2009-08-30 Thread Doug Pensinger
Dan wrote: I origionally just hit reply to while multitaking and the returned it just to John.  I'm sorry that it didn't go to the list, but I'm using my portable which does not have my main sorter.  BTW, the below is not intended as a flame, but an accurate statement of what the posts

Re: Ben Bernanke, fearless leader

2009-08-30 Thread Doug Pensinger
John Williams wrote: In which case, the analogy is useless for drawing conclusions, unless you first list every similarity and difference to the actual situation. In which case, why not discuss the actual situation instead of absurd burning building or sports analogies? As for meaning of

Re: Posted in a workcube

2009-08-30 Thread Doug Pensinger
Julia wrote: Reply: You can get that on a t-shirt.  I gave such a t-shirt to my brother-in-law. (His caffeine addiction is legendary.  In fact, the first time I met him, the biggest impression he made on me was with the concoction he was using to stay awake for an all-nighter --

Re: Ben Bernanke, fearless leader

2009-08-30 Thread Doug Pensinger
John Williams wrote: On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 7:53 PM, Doug Pensingerbrig...@zo.com wrote: How ironic is it that someone who claims to be such a libertarian is so adamant about restricting my rhetorical style! When did I claim to be a libertarian? Perhaps you did not, I apologize if I

Re: Ben Bernanke, fearless leader

2009-08-29 Thread Doug Pensinger
John wrote: I think I understood your point. Mine was that economists are not really experts in any useful knowledge. They cannot predict the course of the economy any better than non-economists. Also, I dispute your claim that the vast majority of economist are in favor of throwing money

Re: Ben Bernanke, fearless leader

2009-08-29 Thread Doug Pensinger
John wrote: And? Is there more to what you are saying? In your initial post in this thread, particularly in the last paragraph, you seemed to be belittling the idea that we are in the midst of a major economic crisis. That's what I was responding to. Perhaps I was mistaken. In any case, I

Re: Ben Bernanke, fearless leader

2009-08-29 Thread Doug Pensinger
John wrote: So, it was a one-two punch. Make the situation sound unimaginably bad, and then persuade people that he saved them from disaster. Or you could make it sound like the situation was overblown and convince people that they were just trying to make heroes of themselves. I find it

Re: What are Bill Maher's beliefs?

2009-08-29 Thread Doug Pensinger
Charlie wrote: Yes - it's the simple principle that not everyone is rational about everything in their lives. In Maher's case, he has a mammoth blind spot on biomedical science. I don't think it's irredemable in his case. Did anyone see the show last night? He interviewed Jay-Z and Bill

Re: Ben Bernanke, fearless leader

2009-08-29 Thread Doug Pensinger
John wrote: The point is, because of his actions, we do not know and cannot know. Considering the vast amounts of other people's money that he has spent and the great moral hazard that he has created, the responsible thing to have done would have been to have carefully studied the situation,

Re: Ben Bernanke, fearless leader

2009-08-29 Thread Doug Pensinger
John wrote: I wrote: I have to go back to the burning building analogy. Which, as I already explained, is a useless analogy and not worth further comment. Because it renders your whole speculative argument moot? Your so called explanation was: It would also be silly to think the US

Re: Ben Bernanke, fearless leader

2009-08-29 Thread Doug Pensinger
John  wrote: You seem to be worried about damage that might have happened if the government had not intervened without allowing enough time for the situation to play out and be well understood. I do not deny that it is possible that there could be some cost from not intervening swiftly. But

Re: Ben Bernanke, fearless leader

2009-08-29 Thread Doug Pensinger
Rob wrote: Is anyone else seeing medical related construction on this scale in their area? Not here. They've actually closed a few hospitals around here even though the population continues to increase. I guess Kaiser has built a few hospitals, but nothing on the scale you're talking

Re: Ben Bernanke, fearless leader

2009-08-25 Thread Doug Pensinger
John Williams wrote: Maybe (I don't think so, but no matter). More importantly,  I think the thread of thought has been lost here. The point is, would non-fireman do that if the firemen decided to wait and observe, as Doug suggested? My point was that we look to our experts in a crisis. If

Re: Ben Bernanke, fearless leader

2009-08-24 Thread Doug Pensinger
On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 7:52 PM, John Williamsjwilliams4...@gmail.com wrote: If he predicts a recovery every year, he may get lucky and be right sometime! Well, if he didn't permanently injure his hand patting himself on the back in his speech last Friday...Hey, look at me, I prevented

Re: Ben Bernanke, fearless leader

2009-08-24 Thread Doug Pensinger
John Williams wrote: Economists are no better at predicting the future than anyone else. How many economists do you know that got rich investing? The vast majority of economists do no better than average at investing. Of course economists like to persuade others that they can predict the

Re: The Role of Government in a Libertarian Free Market

2009-08-18 Thread Doug Pensinger
Richard wrote: A few people have been removed, a couple of them long term listees and one was a moderator here. We definitely are not queasy when it comes to pulling the pin. I'm definitely queasy about it, but I guess I'm not part of we. I'm queasy as well. To my knowledge the only

Re: The Role of Government in a Libertarian Free Market

2009-08-18 Thread Doug Pensinger
Jim wrote: The passive-agressive posts, though? I don't mind admitting that kind of stuff gets under my skin. Jim Admitting weakness maru Now see, I guess I don't understand what passive-aggressive means because I would think that his confrontational, sometimes sarcastic style has any

Re: Passive-Agressive posting (was Re: The Role of Government in a Libertarian Free Market)

2009-08-18 Thread Doug Pensinger
Rob wrote: Bruce wrote: (Type mismatch error: expected boolean value but found string 'cake'. Input not parsed.) The cake is a lie? Apparently the cake is neither true nor false. Doug ___ http://mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com

Re: The Role of Government in a Libertarian Free Market

2009-08-17 Thread Doug Pensinger
On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 11:36 AM, John Williams jwilliams4...@gmail.comwrote: It is interesting what some people find rude which does not seem rude to others. I suspect that a neutral observer would look at my posts during the last few weeks and judge that they are not at all rude. I have

Re: Brin-:L the 2nd decade

2009-08-17 Thread Doug Pensinger
Trent Shipley wrote: We know each other and know each other's positions. What about those of us who try not to have positions? Don't worry Trent, you are as ambiguous as ever. 8^) Doug ___

Re: The Role of Government in a Libertarian Free Market

2009-08-16 Thread Doug Pensinger
Dan wrote: One thing to remember about experimentation: 99.99% of experiments fail; What's the criteria for success? An experimental form of governance (or some aspect of governance) may not yield a completely successful law or system of laws, but I'm relatively certain that important

Re: The Role of Government in a Libertarian Free Market

2009-08-16 Thread Doug Pensinger
Charlie wrote: I do occasionally blow up. Once when I was accused of racism, once when a private discussion I'd had with someone was forwarded to the list, and ISTR Nick and I talking completely at cross-purposes. I was really annoyed on Friday night, partly 'cause I'd got home after

Re: Kindle's Orwellian moment continues . . .

2009-08-02 Thread Doug Pensinger
Ronn! wrote: Inevitable . . . http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/technology/2009/07/highlights-from-the-1984-lawsuit-against-amazon.html or http://tinyurl.com/nlthah More on this including an apology from Amazon's CEO:

Re: Torchwood: Children of Earth

2009-07-26 Thread Doug Pensinger
On John Williams wrote: Better Off Ted is the best new comedy I've seen in a long time. I particularly enjoy the Veridian Dynamics commercials. My favorite episode was the one where they installed new sensors for detecting if people were in the room, and they could not detect black people,

The Poop on the Kindle

2009-07-25 Thread Doug Pensinger
So who has a Kindle (I know someone mentioned them before), how do you like it and what do you read on it? I just got one today and am attempting to download the NY Times (free 14 day trial) right now. It seems like it's taking a long time... Doug ___

Re: The Poop on the Kindle

2009-07-25 Thread Doug Pensinger
John wrote: I have a Kindle DX. I'm pleased with the display size and contrast. I am less than pleased at the navigation, which is klunky, but I knew that before I bought it. I don't read any newspapers on it, since I tend to get my news from the web with a computer. I read mostly fiction

path-dependence

2009-07-19 Thread Doug Pensinger
JDG posted this article on Facebook, very apropos to our discussion. http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2009/01/26/090126fa_fact_gawande?currentPage=all http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2009/01/26/090126fa_fact_gawande?currentPage=all Doug ___

Re: Why not discuss the topic?

2009-07-19 Thread Doug Pensinger
On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 1:09 AM, John Williams jwilliams4...@gmail.comwrote: On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 12:44 AM, Doug Pensingerbrig...@zo.com wrote: If regulations and restrictions have such a detrimental effect then why do other, more restrictive nations have much more efficient and

Re: Why not discuss the topic?

2009-07-19 Thread Doug Pensinger
John wrote: Limiting myself to the US, and just listing a few incidents that come to mind: Indian Removal Act Legal slavery Jim Crow laws Coverture Japanese American internment Joseph McCarthy Richard Nixon Are we waiting for historical perspective to add Bush/Cheney to that list?

Re: WeChooseTheMoon

2009-07-18 Thread Doug Pensinger
John wrote: I think I see a communication problem here. You talk of the free market as if it were a thing, like a replicator on Star Trek that provides food. When I talk of a free market, I mean the state of not restricting or coercing people in their choices to freely interact with each

Re: Why not discuss the topic?

2009-07-18 Thread Doug Pensinger
John wrote: No, it was not. The myriad government restrictions have a significant effect on costs. If regulations and restrictions have such a detrimental effect then why do other, more restrictive nations have much more efficient and effective health care systems? Doug

Re: WeChooseTheMoon

2009-07-18 Thread Doug Pensinger
Which is to say that you believe you know better how people should spend their money than they do themselves. That people need to have their money confiscated and spent by the intellectual elite since otherwise people would spend it on a bunch of crap. No, what I believe is that regarding

Re: Whatcha reading? (was Re: In despair for the state of SF)

2009-07-18 Thread Doug Pensinger
Kevin wrote: Consider Phlebas first, right Charlie? 8^) That was the first (and so far only) Banks book I have tried. I got about half-way before I gave up. Regards, -- Kevin B. O'Brien TANSTAAFL zwil...@zwilnik.com Linux User #333216 I don't want to achieve immortality

Re: Whatcha reading? (was Re: In despair for the state of SF)

2009-07-18 Thread Doug Pensinger
Kevin wrote: I wrote: Consider Phlebas first, right Charlie? 8^) That was the first (and so far only) Banks book I have tried. I got about half-way before I gave up. Hey, to each his own. CP is one of my favorite books, period, but if we all liked the same stuff the world would be

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