Re: Archives

2010-07-03 Thread Doug Pensinger
Jeroen wrote:

 Why do you ask, Doug? Planning on a second attempt at building a List
 Archive?


No, just interested in reading some of the old threads.

Doug

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RE: Archives

2010-06-14 Thread Jeroen van Baardwijk
I have a subtantial part of the List Archives from Day 1 till roughly 6
years ago (back when any day with less than 100 messages was considered a
slow day GRIN)  still available off-line, thanks to my attempt years ago
to set up the Great Brin-L Archive. I estimate that archive to be 90-95%
complete.

 

Only problem is that the Zip drive itself is currently living in one of
approx. 80 cardboard boxes in an off-site storage unit. On the bright side:
as part of my Decluttering Project it should resurface in the near future.

 

Why do you ask, Doug? Planning on a second attempt at building a List
Archive?

 

 

Jeroen

 

 

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Nick Arnett
Verzonden: maandag 14 juni 2010 2:16
Aan: Killer Bs (David Brin et al) Discussion
Onderwerp: Re: Archives

 

 

On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 4:56 PM, Doug Pensinger brig...@zo.com wrote:

Nick; are the archives accessed from the list page all that are available?


As a practical matter, probably.  But take a look here, too:

http://www.mail-archive.com/brin-l@mccmedia.com/info.html

There may be other archives out there.  And I have older archives, but no
easy way yet to make them available.

Nick

 

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Archives

2010-06-13 Thread Doug Pensinger
Nick; are the archives accessed from the list page all that are available?

Doug

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Re: Archives

2010-06-13 Thread Nick Arnett
On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 4:56 PM, Doug Pensinger brig...@zo.com wrote:

 Nick; are the archives accessed from the list page all that are available?


As a practical matter, probably.  But take a look here, too:

http://www.mail-archive.com/brin-l@mccmedia.com/info.html

There may be other archives out there.  And I have older archives, but no
easy way yet to make them available.

Nick
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Archives: attention list management

2009-08-11 Thread Trent Shipley
Where can I find the list archives?


Note also that typing Brin-L in Google returns:

http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Which produces a page No such list brin-l, which is not helpful if we
want to recruit new members.

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From The Archives

2008-11-05 Thread Rceeberger
Me: Tue Jul 27 19:03:48 PDT 2004 

OK, I'm ready to vote for Barack Obama for President.

Wow!
What a dynamic speaker.
He was really able to elucidate much of what I feel about America.


xponent
Encore!!! Maru
rob



xponent
I Found It Maru
rob


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Vatican to open all archives from 1922 to 1939

2006-06-30 Thread Robert G. Seeberger
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/06/30/AR2006063000555.html

Pope Benedict has decided to open all Vatican archives from 1922 to 
1939, giving new insight into what the Catholic Church knew and did as 
Europe saw the rise of Nazism in Germany and the Spanish Civil War.
The Vatican said on Friday it would open its central files, known as 
the Secret Archives, and files of its Secretariat of State for the 
pontificate of Pope Pius XI on September 18.

In a short announcement, it said the opening would make available for 
historical research ... all documentary sources until February 1939 
that are stored in different series of the Archives of the Holy See.

The part of the archives likely to provide new insight is that 
regarding Spain, said a Vatican source who asked not to be named. The 
Church was linked to the Nationalist forces of General Francisco 
Franco in the 1936-1939 civil war.

Historians have long pressed the Vatican to open its wartime archives 
to answer questions about what it knew about the Nazi slaughter of 
Jews in Europe. Critics accuse Pope Pius XII of failing to help save 
Jews, a charge his supporters deny.

But the Vatican usually opens archives papacy by papacy, and Cardinal 
Eugenio Pacelli was elected pope in February 1939.

CATHOLIC-JEWISH SORE POINT

Under pressure to counter criticism from historians and Jewish groups, 
the Vatican published selected files concerning its pre-war relations 
with Germany, including correspondence from Pacelli when he was papal 
ambassador in Germany, in 2003.

It said more organizational work had to be done in the archives before 
the rest of the files could be opened.

Another Vatican source, who also requested anonymity, said the newly 
accessible files would include documents about the Nazis but that most 
information on the Vatican's relations with Germany had already been 
published.

The archives issue remains a sore spot for Catholics and Jews because 
many Jewish historians believe Pius turned a deaf ear to reports about 
the Holocaust.

A rabbi confronted Pope Benedict with a call for the opening of all 
wartime archives when the German-born Pontiff visited his synagogue in 
Cologne last August.

For us, a complete opening of the Vatican archives covering the 
period of World War Two, sixty years after the end of the Shoah 
(Holocaust), would be a further sign of historical conscience and 
would also satisfy critics, Rabbi Abraham Lehrer said.

You grew up in Germany during a terrible time, he told Benedict 
during the first papal visit to a synagogue in Germany. We not only 
see in you the head of the Catholic Church but also a German who is 
aware of his historical responsibility.



xponent

Revelations 20:06 Maru

rob


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Re: Brin-L archives searchable - a real life example.

2004-01-27 Thread Julia Thompson
Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
 
 At 03:58 PM 1/26/04, Julia Thompson wrote:

  Julia
 
 participating on a thread about cat fecal material on another mailing
 list...
 
 Anyone who lives with one frequently participates in such conversations
 both on-line and in-person with others who also cohabit with felines.

This guy is not cohabiting with any.  The neighbors' cats and the feral
cats in the neighborhood are leaving him presents on and horribly close
to his doorstep, and in his back garden, etc., and he wanted a sanity
check on whether what he was doing was OK (which was using a humane trap
and taking any cat without a collar to the animal shelter, and trying to
reunite any cat with a collar with its owner), and if there was anything
else he could do.

Cayenne pepper is probably the cheapest suggestion anyone has made to
augment the trapping strategy.

Julia
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Re: Brin-L archives searchable - a real life example.

2004-01-26 Thread Dave Land
Gary, et al,

Not that there was anything damaging in your message, of course, but 
this reminds me of the old adage, Never put anything in an email that 
you wouldn't want to hear read aloud in court.

Dave


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Re: Brin-L archives searchable - a real life example.

2004-01-26 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 11:40 AM 1/26/04, Dave Land wrote:
Gary, et al,

Not that there was anything damaging in your message, of course, but this 
reminds me of the old adage, Never put anything in an email that you 
wouldn't want to hear read aloud in court.


As I've explained earlier, the reason I recently started using that 
copyright notice that apparently made Dan very nervous (not at all my 
intent) was because something like five years ago a guy on another list 
made a comment which was intended to be humorous (I personally didn't find 
it all that ROTFLOL funny, but others did:  it was, I suppose, one of those 
YMMV things).  Two years ago, someone dug through the archives of that list 
apparently looking for something incriminating, and, using a pseudonym, 
forwarded that comment to the employers of the guy who made it.  They were 
apparently even less amused by it than I was, as they put him on probation 
for the past couple of years, and, although they continued to renew his 
contract every year, they never told him how he could get the probation 
lifted, and a couple of months ago called him in and told him he could 
either accept early retirement (after 35 years of service, about 2 years 
before he was scheduled to retire) with a reduced pension and benefits or 
be fired with no pension or benefits.  As I said then, people here have 
made comments about others which were at least as offensive as, if not 
worse than, the comment he made, and I myself have certainly made my share 
of so-called humorous remarks which were no worse than his comment, so it 
just goes to show you that posting to lists is like eating a whole jar of 
jalapeno peppers:  it can come back to burn your butt tomorrow . . .



-- Ronn!  :)

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Re: Brin-L archives searchable - a real life example.

2004-01-26 Thread Nick Arnett
Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
...
posting to 
lists is like eating a whole jar of jalapeno peppers:  it can come back 
to burn your butt tomorrow . . .
Or like letting Edward Scissorhands measure your inseam.

Nick

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Re: Brin-L archives searchable - a real life example.

2004-01-26 Thread Deborah Harrell
--- Dave Land [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Gary, et al,
 
 Not that there was anything damaging in your
 message, of course, but 
 this reminds me of the old adage, Never put
 anything in an email that 
 you wouldn't want to hear read aloud in court.

Well, there go the teasing innuendos, clever put-downs
and lots of plain high-spirited silliness...  :P

The 'taking-out-of-context' issue could be a real
problem; Vihlyem (misspelled?) and I 'encountered'
that Tucson woman who snatched a few sentences from a
post, but didn't bother to read them all thoroughly,
or check for our follow-up postings.

Debbi
When I Googled My Name* Last Week, The Pix Of Darby 
Me On Steve's Site Were First Maru

*changed from 'Myself' in deference to those who might
take offense upon casually encountering this post  ;)

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Re: Brin-L archives searchable - a real life example.

2004-01-26 Thread Julia Thompson
Ronn!Blankenship wrote:

 so it just goes to show you that posting to lists is like eating a
 whole jar of jalapeno peppers:  it can come back to burn your butt 
 tomorrow . . .

Posting an analogy like that will do it, for one.

Sheesh.

What do I do to get that image out of my head now?  ;)

Julia

participating on a thread about cat fecal material on another mailing
list...
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Re: Brin-L archives searchable - a real life example.

2004-01-26 Thread Jim Sharkey

Nick Arnett wrote:
Or like letting Edward Scissorhands measure your inseam.

He's part tailor, part moil!  :-)

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Re: Brin-L archives searchable - a real life example.

2004-01-26 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 03:58 PM 1/26/04, Julia Thompson wrote:
Ronn!Blankenship wrote:

 so it just goes to show you that posting to lists is like eating a
 whole jar of jalapeno peppers:  it can come back to burn your butt
 tomorrow . . .
Posting an analogy like that will do it, for one.

Sheesh.

What do I do to get that image out of my head now?  ;)


I dunno.  I copied it from another list.  (With at least one slight change 
. . . )

Which, come to think of it, is what the guy I was telling about getting 
canned did with the comment that seems to gotten him canned . . .




Julia

participating on a thread about cat fecal material on another mailing
list...


Anyone who lives with one frequently participates in such conversations 
both on-line and in-person with others who also cohabit with felines.

BTW, I got some training for being a parent of a small child this 
afternoon:  Midnight chased a neighbor's cat up a tree then stood at the 
base of the tree staring at me while I repeatedly told him to come back 
into our yard . . . IOW, he obeyed about as well as a child in the middle 
of some enjoyable mischief would.  The other cat eventually climbed down, 
while I ended up stepping into a knee-deep hole where the stump of a tree 
we cut down 30 or so years ago has finally rotted away (yeah, I need to go 
get a couple of bags of dirt and fill that sometime . . . )



-- Ronn!  :)

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Brin-L archives searchable - a real life example.

2004-01-25 Thread Gary Nunn


This is an absolutely perfect example of why you should be careful and
thoughtful about what you post to any archived mailing list.

We have discussed the consequences of having the Brin-L archive (or any
archived mailing list) searchable in the past, but let me share with you
a real life situation where the contents of one of my posts was cut and
interpreted by someone on the internet that I don't know.

During a test of Google and other search engines, I used my email
address as a search term. I ran across a handful of hits from the
mccmedia/Brin-L archives, but I also ran across a comment on someone's
blog about a post of mine that they found in a search.

Apparently, someone wanted to register a domain name that my humble
little company had already registered. He mentioned on his blog that
someone had already registered it.  One of his blog readers looked it up
in WHOIS, found my name and email address and did a web search on them.
They ran across one of my Brin-L postings about the question of turning
Auschwitz into a museum or memorial.  They quoted my posting, name,
email address and hometown in this persons blog, and now it is out there
for anyone to find anytime.  Fortunately, my copied post was not
entirely out of context, but this person, not having read the entire
thread, made some assumptions and comments. This could have very easily
been copied and commented on completely out of the intended context.

Check out the blog here:
http://amish.blogmosis.com/archives/015617.html

No harm done this time, but I believe that this is an excellent example
of what we have discussed in the past about potential employers doing a
search and finding posts or information about you online that may be
taken out of context.

Additionally, this is a very good example of why registering a domain
name and using a proxy company to insure privacy is the way of the
future. An example:  http://tinyurl.com/2ncwj
As some of my domains become active, we have them listed like this for
security and privacy. (If anyone is interested in this, don't use this
company, email me offlist and I'll point you to much better pricing)


Gary








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ADMIN and ALL THE LIST: Google search of Brin-L archives

2003-12-21 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
Just thought everyone might like to know: I had reason¹ to search Google 
for my name this morning, and most of the over 5,000 results it returned 
appear to be references to messages on Brin-L.



_
¹Not simple egotism:  I was looking for a page someone else had turned up 
when he did a search to find something negative about me.



-- Ronn!  :)

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Re: ADMIN and ALL THE LIST: Google search of Brin-L archives

2003-12-21 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 12/21/2003 9:06:46 AM US Mountain Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Just thought everyone might like to know: I had reason¹ to search Google 
  for my name this morning, and most of the over 5,000 results it returned 
  appear to be references to messages on Brin-L.

I knew Brin-L was on google when I got a personal reply from the mowtore 
cickle
wryder here in twosawn that got laasewed for illleaglee righding his buyk in 
the dry ribber bed.

Debbi got an email as well.

William Taylor

Anti google search spelling.
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Re: Flagyl (was RE: Search engine queries - Brin-l archives)

2003-02-21 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 06:27 PM 2/16/03 -0600, Julia Thompson wrote:
Nick Arnett wrote:

  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Behalf Of Erik Reuter

 ...

   Apparently, ferrets will just go crazy trying to get
   Flagyl out of their mouths.
 
  How about you?

 Lots of Gatorade and toast handy before I take one of those.  Just took the
 mid-day one, which means only one more!
Man, I sure hate being on antibiotics when my digestive system isn't happy
to begin with!  Bad enough when I have to take them when my digestive system
was in reasonably good shape at the beginning, but if there are digestive
problems, the antibiotics tend to aggravate them *miserably*.
When I was still in college but after I was married, myself and many of my
friends at school came down with bronchitis.  All of *them* went to the
student health center and got erythromicin (sp?), 333 mg to be taken 3X
daily.  I went to a doctor's office and got erythromicin, 500 mg to be taken
2X daily.  Everyone's digestive system was in bad shape by Day 5, but since
I only had to do two massive meals to help buffer the stuff, I was in
slightly better shape than the rest of them.  (One guy was convinced he was
practically dying; those of us women who'd had extremely bad cramps at some
point and were experiencing something a little less drastic with the
antibiotic had some sympathy for him, but not as much as he was looking
for)
I feel for you, Nick.  I'm glad for you that this is almost the end of the
antibiotics for you, and I hope they don't have to prescribe more for any
reason anytime soon.


I suppose I'm lucky in having a (usually¹) cast-iron digestion, because 
I've never had any digestive upset from antibiotics.

_
¹But when something *does* upset my stomach, it's an awful sight . . .
-- Ronn!  :)

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Whose Power extends to great and small,
Who guides the stars with steadfast law,
Whose least creation fills with awe,
O grant thy mercy and thy grace,
To those who venture into space.
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Re: Search engine queries - Brin-l archives

2003-02-17 Thread Kanandarqu

Nick wrote-
The antibiotics end today!

And speaking of Google, I was somewhat bothered
by the fact that when I searched on one of the antibiotics I'm taking
(Flagyl, which *sounds* horrible just for starters), I mostly saw references
to ferrets, dogs and cats.  Wondered if I saw a vet at Kaiser.


WOOHOO, glad things are looking up

Actually most of the meds we all take start with animals.  I remember my 
dog going to the NC State University vet school and being put on an
antibiotic, and then my doctor putting me on a new antibiotic that was
$80... they were the same thing (the dogs version had been out 1-2 years
and was only $15.)

Dee
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Re: Search engine queries - Brin-l archives

2003-02-17 Thread Deborah Harrell
--- Nick Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Here's something unexpected that I dug out of
 analyzing my server logs...
 Phrases that people use in search engines that land
 them in the Brin-L
 archive files...  In reality, none of these really
 did much of anything
 interesting, but it shows, well, something.
snippage

I was sent something from an anti-nuclear group based,
apparently, on posts to Brin-L (I haven't looked at
them yet, with so much else going on, but will at some
point).  Kind of surprised me.

Debbi 


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RE: Search engine queries - Brin-l archives

2003-02-17 Thread Deborah Harrell
--- Nick Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip 
 The antibiotics end today!  And speaking of Google,
 I was somewhat bothered
 by the fact that when I searched on one of the
 antibiotics I'm taking
 (Flagyl, which *sounds* horrible just for starters),
 I mostly saw references
 to ferrets, dogs and cats.  Wondered if I saw a vet
 at Kaiser.  Apparently,
 ferrets will just go crazy trying to get Flagyl out
 of their mouths.

LOL
It's an older antibiotic, but it's very good against
anaerobic bacteria, so is frequently used in gut
infections.  It has less of a tendency than some other
antibiotics to cause an overgrowth of _Clostridium
difficile_ (a nasty bug), but IIRC can give a terrible
taste to the mouth, and a *dreadful* reaction if you
take alcohol while it's in your system.

Debbi
GSV Mother-of-all-Hangovers

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RE: Search engine queries - Brin-l archives

2003-02-17 Thread Nick Arnett
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
 Behalf Of Deborah Harrell

...

 difficile_ (a nasty bug), but IIRC can give a terrible
 taste to the mouth, and a *dreadful* reaction if you
 take alcohol while it's in your system.

I was warned of projectile vomiting if I had even a little alcohol.  And
stopped myself at communion on Sunday just in time to switch to the grape
juice.

Better today, perhaps *because* I'm done with the anti-biotics.

Nick

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Search engine queries - Brin-l archives

2003-02-16 Thread Nick Arnett
Here's something unexpected that I dug out of analyzing my server logs...
Phrases that people use in search engines that land them in the Brin-L
archive files...  In reality, none of these really did much of anything
interesting, but it shows, well, something.

This is for the month of February, so far.

1 2 3.92% amatorization
2 2 3.92% dvd_tv amc
3 2 3.92% pegasus mail 4.1
5 2 3.92% samuel poist
6 2 3.92% weird ebay auctions
7 1 1.96% http://rita.thegourmet.com/mskeyboard-a.jpg
8 1 1.96% al-samoud 2 missles
9 1 1.96% asist 2003
10 1 1.96% bushmills special reserve
11 1 1.96% canadian parliament drunk driving
12 1 1.96% chocolate filling recipe cake -milk -cream -egg -eggs
13 1 1.96% compressed-air-car
14 1 1.96% create your own country create your own nation{
15 1 1.96% cynic's choice
16 1 1.96% defcon alert
17 1 1.96% download winsshd
18 1 1.96% etomology of words
19 1 1.96% french interests totalfinaelf iraq
20 1 1.96% gene therapy bubbleboy leukemia

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Re: Search engine queries - Brin-l archives

2003-02-16 Thread Erik Reuter
On Sun, Feb 16, 2003 at 08:36:11AM -0800, Nick Arnett wrote:
 1 2 3.92% amatorization

amo, amas, amat : love
mort : death

Loving the death process? :-)

amortization, root amortize, comes from Latin, ad=towards and mort=death


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RE: Search engine queries - Brin-l archives

2003-02-16 Thread Nick Arnett
It was from a misspelling of amortization.  We were talking about real
estate, IIRC.

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 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
 Behalf Of Erik Reuter
 Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2003 9:24 AM
 To: Killer Bs Discussion
 Subject: Re: Search engine queries - Brin-l archives


 On Sun, Feb 16, 2003 at 08:36:11AM -0800, Nick Arnett wrote:
  1 2 3.92% amatorization

 amo, amas, amat : love
 mort : death

 Loving the death process? :-)

 amortization, root amortize, comes from Latin, ad=towards and mort=death


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Re: Search engine queries - Brin-l archives

2003-02-16 Thread Erik Reuter
Okay, Nick, since you are/have been sick, this time I'll let you off
with a warning: on your next violation, such a post will receive a
humorous, sarcastic comment :-)

On Sun, Feb 16, 2003 at 09:50:40AM -0800, Nick Arnett wrote:
 It was from a misspelling of amortization.  We were talking about real
 estate, IIRC.
 
  Behalf Of Erik Reuter
 
  On Sun, Feb 16, 2003 at 08:36:11AM -0800, Nick Arnett wrote:
   1 2 3.92% amatorization
 
  amo, amas, amat : love
  mort : death
 
  Loving the death process? :-)
 
  amortization, root amortize, comes from Latin, ad=towards and mort=death
 
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RE: Search engine queries - Brin-l archives

2003-02-16 Thread Nick Arnett
Er, did you think that was a joke?  I was serious -- do a Google search on
amatorization and see which mccmedia.com page is in the results list.  But
it wasn't real estate, it was energy we were talking about.

So there.

The antibiotics end today!  And speaking of Google, I was somewhat bothered
by the fact that when I searched on one of the antibiotics I'm taking
(Flagyl, which *sounds* horrible just for starters), I mostly saw references
to ferrets, dogs and cats.  Wondered if I saw a vet at Kaiser.  Apparently,
ferrets will just go crazy trying to get Flagyl out of their mouths.

Nick

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 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
 Behalf Of Erik Reuter
 Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2003 10:08 AM
 To: Killer Bs Discussion
 Subject: Re: Search engine queries - Brin-l archives


 Okay, Nick, since you are/have been sick, this time I'll let you off
 with a warning: on your next violation, such a post will receive a
 humorous, sarcastic comment :-)

 On Sun, Feb 16, 2003 at 09:50:40AM -0800, Nick Arnett wrote:
  It was from a misspelling of amortization.  We were talking about real
  estate, IIRC.
 
   Behalf Of Erik Reuter
  
   On Sun, Feb 16, 2003 at 08:36:11AM -0800, Nick Arnett wrote:
1 2 3.92% amatorization
  
   amo, amas, amat : love
   mort : death
  
   Loving the death process? :-)
  
   amortization, root amortize, comes from Latin, ad=towards and
 mort=death
  
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Re: Search engine queries - Brin-l archives

2003-02-16 Thread Erik Reuter
On Sun, Feb 16, 2003 at 10:17:59AM -0800, Nick Arnett wrote:
 Er, did you think that was a joke? 

Getting warmer! I didn't think YOUR post was a joke.

By the way, thanks for the helpful reply about the misspelling. That was
as helpful as a back-seat driver in '57 Thunderbird.

 The antibiotics end today!  And speaking of Google, I was somewhat
 bothered by the fact that when I searched on one of the antibiotics
 I'm taking (Flagyl, which *sounds* horrible just for starters), I
 mostly saw references to ferrets, dogs and cats.  Wondered if I saw a
 vet at Kaiser.  Apparently, ferrets will just go crazy trying to get
 Flagyl out of their mouths.

How about you?

 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
  Behalf Of Erik Reuter
  Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2003 10:08 AM
  To: Killer Bs Discussion
  Subject: Re: Search engine queries - Brin-l archives
 
 
  Okay, Nick, since you are/have been sick, this time I'll let you off
  with a warning: on your next violation, such a post will receive a
  humorous, sarcastic comment :-)
 
  On Sun, Feb 16, 2003 at 09:50:40AM -0800, Nick Arnett wrote:
   It was from a misspelling of amortization.  We were talking about real
   estate, IIRC.
  
Behalf Of Erik Reuter
   
On Sun, Feb 16, 2003 at 08:36:11AM -0800, Nick Arnett wrote:
 1 2 3.92% amatorization
   
amo, amas, amat : love
mort : death
   
Loving the death process? :-)
   
amortization, root amortize, comes from Latin, ad=towards and
  mort=death
   
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RE: Search engine queries - Brin-l archives

2003-02-16 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 10:17 AM 2/16/03 -0800, Nick Arnett wrote:

Er, did you think that was a joke?  I was serious -- do a Google search on
amatorization and see which mccmedia.com page is in the results list.  But
it wasn't real estate, it was energy we were talking about.

So there.

The antibiotics end today!



Great news!



And speaking of Google, I was somewhat bothered
by the fact that when I searched on one of the antibiotics I'm taking
(Flagyl, which *sounds* horrible just for starters), I mostly saw references
to ferrets, dogs and cats.  Wondered if I saw a vet at Kaiser.




Well, you know the lengths that HMOs will go to in order to cut costs . . .


;-)



Apparently,
ferrets will just go crazy trying to get Flagyl out of their mouths.



Whereas cats will go crazy (and drive you crazy) trying to get _any_ pill 
out of their mouths.

(The worst such experience I've had was when Andy returned from an extended 
stay at the vet and brought home the kitty version of a cold, which he 
proceeded to give to Spot, and then the vet gave me two types of pills I 
had to give each of them.  Giving two pills to one cat while the other 
stands by looking on, knowing it is going to be his turn next, can be a 
chore . . . )



-- Ronn!  :)

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Whose Power extends to great and small,
Who guides the stars with steadfast law,
Whose least creation fills with awe,
O grant thy mercy and thy grace,
To those who venture into space.

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Amatorization Re: Search engine queries - Brin-l archives

2003-02-16 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 12:23 PM 2/16/03 -0500, Erik Reuter wrote:

On Sun, Feb 16, 2003 at 08:36:11AM -0800, Nick Arnett wrote:
 1 2 3.92% amatorization

amo, amas, amat : love
mort : death

Loving the death process? :-)

amortization, root amortize, comes from Latin, ad=towards and mort=death




At 09:50 AM 2/16/03 -0800, Nick Arnett wrote:

It was from a misspelling of amortization.  We were talking about real
estate, IIRC.



Of course, mortgage _does_ come from the root mort:  it essentially 
means you have agreed to keep paying until you die . . .



-- Ronn!  :)

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To those who venture into space.

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Re: Amatorization Re: Search engine queries - Brin-l archives

2003-02-16 Thread Erik Reuter
On Sun, Feb 16, 2003 at 12:54:46PM -0600, Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
 At 12:23 PM 2/16/03 -0500, Erik Reuter wrote:
 On Sun, Feb 16, 2003 at 08:36:11AM -0800, Nick Arnett wrote:
  1 2 3.92% amatorization
 
 amo, amas, amat : love
 mort : death
 
 Loving the death process? :-)
 
 amortization, root amortize, comes from Latin, ad=towards and mort=death
 
 
 
 At 09:50 AM 2/16/03 -0800, Nick Arnett wrote:
 It was from a misspelling of amortization.  We were talking about real
 estate, IIRC.
 
 
 Of course, mortgage _does_ come from the root mort:  it essentially 
 means you have agreed to keep paying until you die . . .

Next you'll be telling us that if only Monica Lewinsky wore a chastity
belt, everything would have turned out okay!



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Re: Amatorization Re: Search engine queries - Brin-l archives

2003-02-16 Thread Julia Thompson
Erik Reuter wrote:
 
 Next you'll be telling us that if only Monica Lewinsky wore a chastity
 belt, everything would have turned out okay!

Oh, come on, Erik, that one was so lame, it sucked!

Julia
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Re: Amatorization Re: Search engine queries - Brin-l archives

2003-02-16 Thread Erik Reuter
On Sun, Feb 16, 2003 at 01:49:30PM -0600, Julia Thompson wrote:
 Erik Reuter wrote:
  
  Next you'll be telling us that if only Monica Lewinsky wore a chastity
  belt, everything would have turned out okay!
 
 Oh, come on, Erik, that one was so lame, it sucked!

You're right, I guess it sort of missed the pri...er, I mean point.


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Re: Amatorization Re: Search engine queries - Brin-l archives

2003-02-16 Thread Reggie Bautista
Erik wrote:

Next you'll be telling us that if only Monica Lewinsky wore a chastity
belt, everything would have turned out okay!


That wouldn't have helped for the times that... well, that she had sexual 
relations with him while he was not having sexual relations with her.  Or 
something like that.

Now, if *he* had worn a chastity belt... :-)

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Re: Search engine queries - Brin-l archives

2003-02-16 Thread Reggie Bautista
Nick wrote:


Here's something unexpected that I dug out of analyzing my server logs...
Phrases that people use in search engines that land them in the Brin-L
archive files...  In reality, none of these really did much of anything
interesting, but it shows, well, something.

[snip]

10 1 1.96% bushmills special reserve


Mmm... Bushmills  The 10 year reserve is sublime.  The 12 year... 
words do not suffice.  :-)

Reggie Bautista
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Re: Amatorization Re: Search engine queries - Brin-l archives

2003-02-16 Thread Erik Reuter
On Sun, Feb 16, 2003 at 01:54:17PM -0600, Reggie Bautista wrote:
 Erik wrote:
 Next you'll be telling us that if only Monica Lewinsky wore a chastity
 belt, everything would have turned out okay!
 
 That wouldn't have helped for the times that... well, that she had sexual 
 relations with him while he was not having sexual relations with her.  Or 
 something like that.

Thanks, Reggie. You're sharp. I'd put you up against Lorena Bobbit any
day...


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Re: Amatorization Re: Search engine queries - Brin-l archives

2003-02-16 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 02:05 PM 2/16/03 -0500, Erik Reuter wrote:


Next you'll be telling us that if only Monica Lewinsky wore a chastity
belt, everything would have turned out okay!



I suppose it depends on precisely where she wore it . . .




The Woman In The Iron Mask Maru



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Flagyl (was RE: Search engine queries - Brin-l archives)

2003-02-16 Thread Nick Arnett
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
 Behalf Of Erik Reuter

...

  Apparently, ferrets will just go crazy trying to get
  Flagyl out of their mouths.

 How about you?

Lots of Gatorade and toast handy before I take one of those.  Just took the
mid-day one, which means only one more!

Nick

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Re: Amatorization Re: Search engine queries - Brin-l archives

2003-02-16 Thread Jim Sharkey

Julia Thompson wrote:
Erik Reuter wrote:
Next you'll be telling us that if only Monica Lewinsky wore a 
chastity belt, everything would have turned out okay!

Oh, come on, Erik, that one was so lame, it sucked!

And worse yet, it may stain his reputation!

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Re: Flagyl (was RE: Search engine queries - Brin-l archives)

2003-02-16 Thread Julia Thompson
Nick Arnett wrote:
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
  Behalf Of Erik Reuter
 
 ...
 
   Apparently, ferrets will just go crazy trying to get
   Flagyl out of their mouths.
 
  How about you?
 
 Lots of Gatorade and toast handy before I take one of those.  Just took the
 mid-day one, which means only one more!

Man, I sure hate being on antibiotics when my digestive system isn't happy
to begin with!  Bad enough when I have to take them when my digestive system
was in reasonably good shape at the beginning, but if there are digestive
problems, the antibiotics tend to aggravate them *miserably*.

When I was still in college but after I was married, myself and many of my
friends at school came down with bronchitis.  All of *them* went to the
student health center and got erythromicin (sp?), 333 mg to be taken 3X
daily.  I went to a doctor's office and got erythromicin, 500 mg to be taken
2X daily.  Everyone's digestive system was in bad shape by Day 5, but since
I only had to do two massive meals to help buffer the stuff, I was in
slightly better shape than the rest of them.  (One guy was convinced he was
practically dying; those of us women who'd had extremely bad cramps at some
point and were experiencing something a little less drastic with the
antibiotic had some sympathy for him, but not as much as he was looking
for)

I feel for you, Nick.  I'm glad for you that this is almost the end of the
antibiotics for you, and I hope they don't have to prescribe more for any
reason anytime soon.

Julia
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Re: Amatorization Re: Search engine queries - Brin-l archives

2003-02-16 Thread Julia Thompson
Reggie Bautista wrote:
 
 Erik wrote:
 Next you'll be telling us that if only Monica Lewinsky wore a chastity
 belt, everything would have turned out okay!
 
 That wouldn't have helped for the times that... well, that she had sexual
 relations with him while he was not having sexual relations with her.  Or
 something like that.
 
 Now, if *he* had worn a chastity belt... :-)

We'd still have the extremely irritating thing of a cigar *not* having been
just a cigar at some point

(Clinton ruined that bit by Freud for me.  That'll probably bother me for
another 5 years or so)

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Archives, archives, who's got the archives?

2002-10-28 Thread Nick Arnett
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:brin-l-bounces;mccmedia.com]On
 Behalf Of J. van Baardwijk
 Sent: Monday, October 28, 2002 1:45 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: test

...

 just past a list of unkept promises you made to share the archives,

 Those are not unkept promises, those are not-yet-fulfilled promises.

I'm afraid I see no difference.  I was talking specifically about the
promise you made to me to ftp the archives.  I set up a computer with an
account for you, which is still sitting here, many months later, awaiting
delivery.  I have written software that will extract individual messages
from many kinds of archive files, enter them in a database, remove
duplicates and identify missing segments.  And if you do care to follow
through and send me the various bits and pieces you have, I'll be more than
happy to share the cleaned-up list back to you.

The system I'm working on these days has now indexed and organized just a
little under 1 million messages from about 140 sources... so I think I'm
ready to handle whatever Brin-L might throw at me.  ;-)

If anybody else has substantial archives, please feel free to mail them to
me at [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Please *don't* send any large attachments to my
regular address, as my anti-spam software will take an irritatingly long
time to sift through them.  There, now I've told you how to mail-bomb me.
Of course, that will also impact the performance of the list server

Nick

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