RE: Autism and MMR Vaccine Study an 'Elaborate Fraud'

2011-02-10 Thread Dan Minette
> Oh, I see, Wikipedia. I am now totally convinced of your standing as >a eminent public health epidemiologist. Just to get the population. The critical documentation was that they _did_ exclude the Fallujah area and that their techniques came up with 200k deaths in that region which, if true

Re: Autism and MMR Vaccine Study an 'Elaborate Fraud'

2011-02-10 Thread Martin Lewis
On 2/9/11, Dan Minette wrote: > > Had the Fallujah sample been included, the survey's estimate would have been > of an excess of about 298,000 deaths, with 200,000 concentrated in the 3% of > Iraq around Fallujah > > > OK, 200k deaths in and right around Fallujah > > Well, what's the population

Re: Autism and MMR Vaccine Study an 'Elaborate Fraud'

2011-02-10 Thread Martin Lewis
On 2/9/11, Dan Minette wrote: >>To start with, this is not a "study on US induced deaths in Iraq". More >>importantly, this story about the Fallujah cluster is something you >>have simply made up. > > Are you saying that Fallujah wasn't excluded because of problems with the > results there? Seri

RE: Autism and MMR Vaccine Study an 'Elaborate Fraud'

2011-02-09 Thread Dan Minette
I'm really suppose to be working, but this took me 5 minutes to find: From http://www.iraqanalysis.org/local/041101lancetpmos.html Which argued for the Lancet article and against the British government response and I quote: Had the Fallujah sample been included, the survey's estimate would hav

RE: Autism and MMR Vaccine Study an 'Elaborate Fraud'

2011-02-09 Thread Dan Minette
Martin wrote >To start with, this is not a "study on US induced deaths in Iraq". More >importantly, this story about the Fallujah cluster is something you >have simply made up. Are you saying that Fallujah wasn't excluded because of problems with the results there? Seriously? Or are you saying

Re: Autism and MMR Vaccine Study an 'Elaborate Fraud'

2011-02-09 Thread Martin Lewis
On 2/9/11, Dan Minette wrote: > The Lancet, in my book, has published other studies that were questionable > from the beginning. For example, they published a study on US induced > deaths in Iraq that found that a quarter of the population of Faluja had > died due to the early fighting (early wa

Re: Autism and MMR Vaccine Study an 'Elaborate Fraud'

2011-02-09 Thread Dave Land
On Feb 9, 2011, at 8:03 AM, Dan Minette wrote: I'll give them the benefit of the doubt and not attribute to malice what can be explained by incompetence. You, sir, are un-American :-). Well said. Dave ___ http://box535.bluehost.com/mailman/listi

RE: Autism and MMR Vaccine Study an 'Elaborate Fraud'

2011-02-09 Thread Dan Minette
>I think there have been discussions here previously about vaccines, and >while there might well be some people, especially children, who can have >difficulty with multiple vaccines, the issue of vaccination causing autism >is particularly fear-inducing. But the 1998 'study' has been judged >frau

Med: Autism and MMR Vaccine Study an 'Elaborate Fraud'

2011-02-08 Thread Deborah Harrell
een judged fraudulent: Autism and MMR Vaccine Study an 'Elaborate Fraud,' Charges BMJ Deborah Brauser ---Educational Item---January 6, 2011 — BMJ is publishing a series of 3 articles and editorials charging that the study published in The Lancet in 1998 by Andrew Wakefield and colleagues l