Re: Still here (Re: Br¡n: On Fracking and Earthquakes)
? From: Nick Arnett Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2011 11:02 AM To: Killer Bs (David Brin et al) Discussion Subject: Still here (Re: Br¡n: On Fracking and Earthquakes) I'm still here, of course. Recently joined NetBase as director of product management, so I'm busy getting up to speed. One of the data points NetBase has developed is that despite Twitter, Facebook, etc., the real conversation still happens, and is increasing, in forums, list servers, etc. Discussion tends to start in the new social media, but if it has any depth, it goes into venues where some depth is supported. I suppose if we really want to revive Brin-L, we need to have links to it appearing periodically in social media. Nick ___And of course I am still here ...somewhere Xponent Lost In Spacetime Maru rob http://box535.bluehost.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com ___ http://box535.bluehost.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com
Re: Br¡n: On Fracking and Earthquakes
On 27 Aug 2011, at 02:46, Ronn! Blankenship wrote: At 06:57 AM Friday 8/26/2011, KZK wrote: http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2011/08/human-activity-can-cause-earthquakes/ I really like the instructions given for those who want to leave comments. . . . ronn! :) Yeah. Seems to work, too. :) Wonder how many people are left on this list? Such an oldfashioned mode of communication and info-gathering… ;) Not that I'm keeping up with the new ways much… I try, life is just way too busy right now with 3 kids full time job setting up the Dutch B-Society to spend much time figuring out how the frack FB works or posting every thought I have on Twitter… Turned 40 recently... Could anybody tell? Ticia ',:) Ticia Luengo Hendriks Co-founder and Editor-in-chief of B-Society.nl B-Society: proposing an alternative to the 9-5 society, taking into account the needs of the 25% of us who are evening types (night owls). A Broader Better society, healthier and more productive. To Be or not to Be a morning, day or evening type. Which are you? We are part of an international movement originating in Denmark: www.b-society.org ___ http://box535.bluehost.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com
Re: Br¡n: On Fracking and Earthquakes
- Original Message - From: Ticia ti...@xs4all.nl To: Killer Bs (David Brin et al) Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2011 11:35:37 AM Subject: Re: Br¡n: On Fracking and Earthquakes On 27 Aug 2011, at 02:46, Ronn! Blankenship wrote: At 06:57 AM Friday 8/26/2011, KZK wrote: http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2011/08/human-activity-can-cause-earthquakes/ I really like the instructions given for those who want to leave comments. . . . ronn! :) Yeah. Seems to work, too. :) Wonder how many people are left on this list? Such an oldfashioned mode of communication and info-gathering… ;) Not that I'm keeping up with the new ways much… I try, life is just way too busy right now with 3 kids full time job setting up the Dutch B-Society to spend much time figuring out how the frack FB works or posting every thought I have on Twitter… -- Ticia-- Hi. It's good to hear from you. I think a lot of us still lurk, but it's hard to keep a conversation going. ---David ___ http://box535.bluehost.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com
Still here (Re: Br¡n: On Fracking and Earthquakes)
I'm still here, of course. Recently joined NetBase as director of product management, so I'm busy getting up to speed. One of the data points NetBase has developed is that despite Twitter, Facebook, etc., the real conversation still happens, and is increasing, in forums, list servers, etc. Discussion tends to start in the new social media, but if it has any depth, it goes into venues where some depth is supported. I suppose if we really want to revive Brin-L, we need to have links to it appearing periodically in social media. Nick ___ http://box535.bluehost.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com
RE: Br¡n: On Fracking and Earthquakes
Two problems with the Brin list. First, each message keeps coming up with the name of the individual sender as primary and warning me This may not be *trustworthy*! Do you want to mark it as safe? Each individual sender? Give me a break!!! , And I note that hitting Reply actually does send it back to the list. The Almacks list, out of the U.K., does the same thing. My Yahoo-groups lists don't. Second, the real discussion seems to be happening on his blog, in the comments. For what it's worth. I don't do social media, having [begin rant] been poked (hideous, intrusive act) too many times by people who call up a puzzled Do I know you and from where? without any way to check their profiles before (hideous word) friending them. Not to mention being bombarded with exhortations to play Farmville, and See how many people want to date you! (Yeah. Right.) And sales pitches, since every salescritter on the planet uses such media as their primary means of communication. [end rant]. http://idiotgrrl.livejournal.com/ Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 11:52:48 -0400 From: hob...@newpaltz.edu To: brin-l@mccmedia.com Subject: Re: Br¡n: On Fracking and Earthquakes From: Ticia ti...@xs4all.nl To: Killer Bs (David Brin et al) Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2011 11:35:37 AM Subject: Re: Br¡n: On Fracking and Earthquakes On 27 Aug 2011, at 02:46, Ronn! Blankenship wrote: At 06:57 AM Friday 8/26/2011, KZK wrote: http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2011/08/human-activity-can-cause-earthquakes/ I really like the instructions given for those who want to leave comments. . . . ronn! :) Yeah. Seems to work, too. :) Wonder how many people are left on this list? Such an oldfashioned mode of communication and info-gathering… ;) Not that I'm keeping up with the new ways much… I try, life is just way too busy right now with 3 kids full time job setting up the Dutch B-Society to spend much time figuring out how the frack FB works or posting every thought I have on Twitter… -- Ticia-- Hi. It's good to hear from you. I think a lot of us still lurk, but it's hard to keep a conversation going. ---David ___ http://box535.bluehost.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com ___ http://box535.bluehost.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com
Re: Br¡n: On Fracking and Earthquakes
Hi Pat, I hardly ever use Facebook for the sort of reasons you mention below. I think Google+ has dealt with those issues very nicely the conversations there are mostly very interesting stimulating. If you are interested to see what social media done well looks like you should give it a try. Click here if you would like an invite. https://plus.google.com/i/cFaHskHB458:OADMZ9Ox5uA and here if you want to have a look at David's public posts. https://plus.google.com/116665417191671711571/posts?hl=en Regards, Wayne On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 3:40 AM, Pat Mathews mathew...@msn.com wrote: For what it's worth. I don't do social media, having [begin rant] been poked (hideous, intrusive act) too many times by people who call up a puzzled Do I know you and from where? without any way to check their profiles before (hideous word) friending them. Not to mention being bombarded with exhortations to play Farmville, and See how many people want to date you! (Yeah. Right.) And sales pitches, since every salescritter on the planet uses such media as their primary means of communication. [end rant]. http://idiotgrrl.livejournal.com/ -- ___ http://box535.bluehost.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com
Re: Still here (Re: Br¡n: On Fracking and Earthquakes)
On Sep 18, 2011, at 6:02 PM, Nick Arnett wrote: I'm still here, of course. Recently joined NetBase as director of product management, so I'm busy getting up to speed. One of the data points NetBase has developed is that despite Twitter, Facebook, etc., the real conversation still happens, and is increasing, in forums, list servers, etc. Discussion tends to start in the new social media, but if it has any depth, it goes into venues where some depth is supported. I suppose if we really want to revive Brin-L, we need to have links to it appearing periodically in social media. I didn't know that, interesting… See? That's what Brin-L is still good for! For better or worse we are still a kind of social network, with a history and conections dating back to a previous online era… A brilliant source for information should we need it… It'll be interesting to see how all the social networking develops in the next few years… Ticia ',:) Ticia Luengo Hendriks Co-founder and Editor-in-chief of B-Society.nl B-Society: proposing an alternative to the 9-5 society, taking into account the needs of the 25% of us who are evening types (night owls). A Broader Better society, healthier and more productive. To Be or not to Be a morning, day or evening type. Which are you? We are part of an international movement originating in Denmark: www.b-society.org ___ http://box535.bluehost.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com
RE: Still here (Re: Br¡n: On Fracking and Earthquakes)
Nick wrote: One of the data points NetBase has developed is that despite Twitter, Facebook, etc., the real conversation still happens, and is increasing, in forums, list servers, etc. Discussion tends to start in the new social media, but if it has any depth, it goes into venues where some depth is supported. People who I have contact with on other mailing lists have reported that the vast majority of broad forums, like Brin-L or Culture, have lost a lot of traffic. On the whole, most folks I've discussed this with have found few outlets where long conversations occur. I think we've differed on this for more than a decade, Nick. :-) I still see the trend of the internet is to go more and more to closed circles of folks who all agree and short sound byte discussions. Ticia wrote: It'll be interesting to see how all the social networking develops in the next few years My prediction is that the replacement for Twitter will be a networking site where there is only room for emotocons. :-) Dan M. ___ http://box535.bluehost.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com
Re: Still here (Re: Br¡n: On Fracking and Earthquakes)
Yup. More seriously, why don't we set up circles on google plus? Then we'd still have that interaction via means like this one, with about the same openness, and the ability to choose correspondents ourselves? That is, if each of us were to create a 'brin' circle in g+, and add each other to our own circles, in that way the conversation would still be live - and if someone got too obstreperous for a given person to tolerate, he'd be able to remove that person from his own 'brin' circle, without affecting anyone else. Strikes me as being pretty grassroots fair and flexible, anyway. • Warren • off console • w azkrmc.com • h nightwares.com • On Sep 18, 2011, at 14:07, Dan Minette danmine...@att.net wrote: I still see the trend of the internet is to go more and more to closed circles of folks who all agree and short sound byte discussions. ___ http://box535.bluehost.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com
Re: Br¡n: On Fracking and Earthquakes
At 06:57 AM Friday 8/26/2011, KZK wrote: http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2011/08/human-activity-can-cause-earthquakes/ I really like the instructions given for those who want to leave comments. . . . ronn! :) ___ http://box535.bluehost.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com
Re: Br¡n: On Fracking and Earthquakes
On Aug 26, 2011, at 5:46 PM, Ronn! Blankenship wrote: At 06:57 AM Friday 8/26/2011, KZK wrote: http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2011/08/human-activity-can-cause-earthquakes/ I really like the instructions given for those who want to leave comments. That's just beautiful. -- Warren ___ http://box535.bluehost.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com
