Re: Gen. Colin Powell, Pres. Obama's Secretary of Defense
I think that Powell actually was fed incomplete or untrue information which he then delivered. It's those who lied to him who are most at fault. That is incredible. An experienced General grade officer, former chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff serving as the Secretary of State with access to real intelligence as opposed to the pretend clap trap fed to the public was in no position to be so stupid. He knew damn well he was telling lies and willingly participated in the commision of crimes. There is no doubt. Only the disinterested public without an education in military technology or awareness of the condition of the Iraqi state (dire) was in any position to believe the lies and only then if distracted by misdirected rage about the World Trade Center attack. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Gen. Colin Powell, Pres. Obama's Secretary of Defense
Plus a long and distinguished career in the military, Chief of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and as the National Security Advisor. His career wasn't so distinguished. His attempt to white wash U.S massacres of Vietnamese villagers (such as My Lai) doesn't reflect well on him either. Can honor not be redeemed after a mistake, even one as large as his? The callous murder of between ten and sixty thousand odd people? Mmmm, no I don't think so. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Gen. Colin Powell, Pres. Obama's Secretary of Defense
On Oct 20, 2008, at 3:59 PM, Alberto Vieira Ferreira Monteiro wrote: Julia Thompson wrote: It's like the people running around accusing Obama of being a Muslim -- it's inaccurate, but they may have been lied to by people who want to turn opinion against Obama, and not be intending to lie. That would be the perfect conspiracy theory, following the Bush-is-a-Manchurian-candidate conspiracy. If Bush is at sold of some foreign sheiks, what would be best for them then to blunder everything in the final weeks, weaken the Republican candidate to death, and place a Muslim at the POTUS? :-) Alberto Monteiro You know what? a) Barack Obama is *not* a Muslim, and I have a fairly high degree of confidence in that statement. b) If he were, I'd be even *more* likely to vote for him. I have to ask -- would it be so unimaginably bad to have a Muslim holding public office in this country? The most disturbing part of the rumor to me isn't the suggestion that he might be, it's the implication behind the rumor that that would be a reason to disqualify him from office. The former is merely slander; the latter is un- American in the most bigoted way. (The fact that it's historically consistent is no excuse as far as I'm concerned.) The price of liberty is eternal vigilance. -- Thomas Jefferson ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Gen. Colin Powell, Pres. Obama's Secretary of Defense
I had this thought before lunch and thought I'd share it with the list. I googled it and found that I'm not the first to think of it so I can't claim it as my own. I'd been thinking about Powell's endorsement of Obama this weekend and how much impressed with him I've always been, even after his failure to live up to his own values by stumping the Iraq war to the U.N. for President G.W. Bush. His endorsement of Barack Obama this past weekend may be the most powerful 7 minutes of television I’ve watched in the past 10 years and his indictment of the current Republican party, the Bush administration, and Sen. John McCain’s campaign and Vice-Presidential choices is exactly on target. I think Barack Obama shoud make Colin Powell his Secretary of Defense. Who better to place over the abused and war-worn military of the United States. Who better to shepherd it back into the fine tradition of the American military and restore its honor and morale. Powell would defend his men and women against ill-use and champion their cause with President Obama and the Congress. And what a blow it would lay to the charges that Obama doesn’t know how to cross the aisle for bi-partisan action. Choosing Colin Powell for his Secretary of State would be a courageous, right, action by President Obama. -- GPG Fingerprint: 409B A409 A38D 92BF 15D9 6EEE 9A82 F2AC 69AC 07B9 CACert.org Assurer ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Gen. Colin Powell, Pres. Obama's Secretary of Defense
I think Barack Obama shoud make Colin Powell his Secretary of Defense. What, and actively destroy Damask's personal support by supplying jobs to an accomplice to mass murder? Powell knowingly lied on a stage (the U.N) built expressly for the purpose of preventing wars to actively promote the prosecution of a war illegal by his own countries laws and knowingly support the murder of many thousands. He is scum and a willing participant in vile crimes. A government that embraced him wouldn't be a change from the offensive fools currently in the U.S executive. One elegant speech does not magically change a person or their responsibly for their past. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Gen. Colin Powell, Pres. Obama's Secretary of Defense
On Tue, 21 Oct 2008, Euan Ritchie wrote: I think Barack Obama shoud make Colin Powell his Secretary of Defense. What, and actively destroy Damask's personal support by supplying jobs to an accomplice to mass murder? Powell knowingly lied on a stage (the U.N) built expressly for the purpose of preventing wars to actively promote the prosecution of a war illegal by his own countries laws and knowingly support the murder of many thousands. I think that Powell actually was fed incomplete or untrue information which he then delivered. It's those who lied to him who are most at fault. It's like the people running around accusing Obama of being a Muslim -- it's inaccurate, but they may have been lied to by people who want to turn opinion against Obama, and not be intending to lie. Julia ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Gen. Colin Powell, Pres. Obama's Secretary of Defense
Euan Ritchie said the following on 10/20/2008 3:38 PM: I think Barack Obama shoud make Colin Powell his Secretary of Defense. One elegant speech does not magically change a person or their responsibly for their past. Plus a long and distinguished career in the military, Chief of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and as the National Security Advisor. I even liked Powell as Secretary of State until he was either duped into supporting the Iraq war or choose to support it. That was a mistake. A huge massive mistake. I'd be willing to bet 5 bucks that he regrets it deeply. Can honor not be redeemed after a mistake, even one as large as his? Thoughtfully Yours, --[Lance] -- GPG Fingerprint: 409B A409 A38D 92BF 15D9 6EEE 9A82 F2AC 69AC 07B9 CACert.org Assurer ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Gen. Colin Powell, Pres. Obama's Secretary of Defense
Julia Thompson wrote: It's like the people running around accusing Obama of being a Muslim -- it's inaccurate, but they may have been lied to by people who want to turn opinion against Obama, and not be intending to lie. That would be the perfect conspiracy theory, following the Bush-is-a-Manchurian-candidate conspiracy. If Bush is at sold of some foreign sheiks, what would be best for them then to blunder everything in the final weeks, weaken the Republican candidate to death, and place a Muslim at the POTUS? :-) Alberto Monteiro ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
