Heinlein [was: Good Reading, Anyone?]

2009-06-22 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Doug Pensinger wrote: I'm sure a lot of you have read the Heinlein, but this was my first attempt since I threw The Cat who Walks through Walls across the room, unfinished, many years ago. Cat is the worst possible First Heinlein to read. It makes too many references to other books

Re: Heinlein [was: Good Reading, Anyone?]

2009-06-22 Thread Doug Pensinger
Alberto wrote: Cat is the worst possible First Heinlein to read. It makes too many references to other books, it should be Heinlein's _last_. Cat wasn't my first Heinlein, I'd read a few others including Stranger in a Strange Land which I enjoyed. [The Moon is a Harsh Mistress] The story

Re: Heinlein

2009-06-22 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Doug Pensinger wrote: Cat is the worst possible First Heinlein to read. It makes too many references to other books, it should be Heinlein's _last_. Cat wasn't my first Heinlein, I'd read a few others including Stranger in a Strange Land which I enjoyed.  Ok, but Cat makes so much

Re: Heinlein

2009-06-22 Thread Max Battcher
Alberto Monteiro wrote: How is The Number of the Beast? I read an excerpt from the book way back before it was published (in Omni) and was hot to read the book after that but for one reason or the other never picked it up. If you didn't like Cat you probably won't like Number. OTOH, it makes

Re: Which Heinlein Book Should You Have Been A Character In?

2003-09-14 Thread G. D. Akin
Jim Sharkey wrote: I got Time Enough for Love also. What's it about? I'm afraid my Heinlein exposure has been minimal. And you call yourself a Science Fiction reader ;-) Time Enough for Love follows the exploits of 2000-year old Lazarus

Re: Which Heinlein Book Should You Have Been A Character In?

2003-09-14 Thread Jim Sharkey
G. D. Akin wrote: Jim Sharkey wrote: I got Time Enough for Love also. What's it about? I'm afraid my Heinlein exposure has been minimal. And you call yourself a Science Fiction reader ;-) I used to, but compared to many of the folks on this list, I'm clearly a piker and need to catch up

Re: Which Heinlein Book Should You Have Been A Character In?

2003-09-14 Thread Jon Gabriel
From: G. D. Akin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Which Heinlein Book Should You Have Been A Character In? Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2003 15:49:29 +0900 Jim Sharkey wrote: I got Time Enough for Love also. What's

Re: Which Heinlein Book Should You Have Been A Character In?

2003-09-14 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Jon Gabriel wrote: All accurate, except I think Lazarus was 4000+ years old. 2359. He was born on 1912-11-11, and the story begins somewhere in 4272. But he wasn't 2359 _years_ old, because he cut some of these years [about 70 of them] during _Methuselah's Children_. Timeline Maniac Maru

Re: Which Heinlein Book Should You Have Been A Character In?

2003-09-14 Thread Alberto Monteiro
G. D. Akin wrote: Time Enough for Love Did I mention that I made a timeline of Heinlein? http://www.geocities.com/albmont/rah2.htm follows the exploits of 2000-year old Lazarus Long, first introduced in Methusela's Children. The book opens with Lazarus wanting to die, an not really being

Re: Which Heinlein Book Should You Have Been A Character In?

2003-09-13 Thread Kevin Tarr
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Which Heinlein Book Should You Have Been A Character In?

2003-09-12 Thread Bryon Daly
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Re: Which Heinlein Book Should You Have Been A Character In?

2003-09-12 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Bryon Daly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another one of those quizzes for everyone's categorization pleasure: Which Heinlein Book Should You Have Been A Character In? http://quizilla.com/users/dunkelza/quizzes/Which%20Heinlein%20Book%20Should%20You%20Have%20Been%20A%20Character%20In%3F

Re: Which Heinlein Book Should You Have Been A Character In?

2003-09-12 Thread Jon Gabriel
From: Jan Coffey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Which Heinlein Book Should You Have Been A Character In? Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2003 15:37:30 -0700 (PDT) --- Bryon Daly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another one

Re: Which Heinlein Book Should You Have Been A Character In?

2003-09-12 Thread Reggie Bautista
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Re: Which Heinlein Book Should You Have Been A Character In?

2003-09-12 Thread Julia Thompson
Bryon Daly wrote: Another one of those quizzes for everyone's categorization pleasure: Which Heinlein Book Should You Have Been A Character In? Time Enough for Love. Julia ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Which Heinlein Book Should You Have Been A Character In?

2003-09-12 Thread Robert Seeberger
You belong in the Cat Who Walks Through Walls. You are creative and cunning. Your works often feel empty to you, though others love them. You suspect that the universe and everyone in it are just characters in someone else's story. xponent The Sequal Maru rob

Re: Which Heinlein Book Should You Have Been A Character In?

2003-09-12 Thread G. D. Akin
First pass:The Man Who Sold The Moon Second:Cat Who Walks Through Walls (I just picked the first answer in every category) Of all the little personality quizzes we've taken, this is lamest. George A ___

Re: Which Heinlein Book Should You Have Been A Character In?

2003-09-12 Thread Jim Sharkey
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Re: Which Heinlein Book Should You Have Been A Character In?

2003-09-12 Thread Deborah Harrell
--- Bryon Daly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another one of those quizzes for everyone's categorization pleasure: Which Heinlein Book Should You Have Been A Character In? http://quizilla.com/users/dunkelza/quizzes/Which%20Heinlein%20Book%20Should%20You%20Have%20Been%20A%20Character%20In%3F

Re: Which Heinlein Book Should You Have Been A Character In?

2003-09-12 Thread Bryon Daly
From: Jim Sharkey [EMAIL PROTECTED] I got Time Enough for Love also. What's it about? I'm afraid my Heinlein exposure has been minimal. Time Enough For Love is from Heinlein's Dirty Old Man stage of his career. From what I remember, it's mostly about Lazarus Long, the world's oldest man

Re: Which Heinlein Book Should You Have Been A Character In?

2003-09-12 Thread Doug Pensinger
You belong in The Moon is a Harsh Mistress. You value freedom above all else. You would fight and die for your family and your home. Doug ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

New Heinlein Book soon to be published

2003-09-06 Thread Jon Gabriel
http://www.heinleinsociety.org/newsFUTL.html For those of us who thought there would never again be another new Heinlein novel, the impossible has become reality . For Us, the Living, is a brand new, never before published novel by Robert A. Heinlein. It is going into print now for the first

Re: Heinlein quote

2003-08-14 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: Jan Coffey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 8:16 PM Subject: Re: Heinlein quote --- Alberto Monteiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Robert Seeberger wrote: An armed society is a polite society

Re: Heinlein quote

2003-08-14 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 8:52 PM Subject: Re: Heinlein quote I'm not claiming to agree with Heinlein, but I will note that people are very friendly in Texas and not so friendly in New York. G You'd

Re: Heinlein quote

2003-08-14 Thread Julia Thompson
Jan Coffey wrote: --- Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And there are cultural differences between Texas and California, and the culture in Texas agreed with me a bit more when I visited both states on one trip, and that's how I ended up going to school in Texas. (But I will

Re: Heinlein quote

2003-08-14 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Robert Seeberger wrote: I'm not claiming to agree with Heinlein, but I will note that people are very friendly in Texas and not so friendly in New York. G I think there are cultural differences between Texas and New York besides just

Re: Heinlein quote [was: Politics]

2003-08-14 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: Alberto Monteiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 2:55 PM Subject: Heinlein quote [was: Politics] Jan Coffey wrote: Actually, they are Heinlein's words, and the full quote is: An armed

Re: Heinlein quote

2003-08-14 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jan Coffey wrote: --- Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And there are cultural differences between Texas and California, and the culture in Texas agreed with me a bit more when I visited both states on one trip, and that's how

Re: Heinlein quote

2003-08-14 Thread Julia Thompson
Robert Seeberger wrote: I'm not claiming to agree with Heinlein, but I will note that people are very friendly in Texas and not so friendly in New York. G I think there are cultural differences between Texas and New York besides just the gun ownership thing that account

Re: Heinlein quote

2003-08-14 Thread TomFODW
I'm not claiming to agree with Heinlein, but I will note that people are very friendly in Texas and not so friendly in New York. G You'd better never not come back to New York no more and say that. We New Yorkers don't take kindly to peoples what calls us unfriendly. ;) Seriously

Re: Heinlein quote [was: Politics]

2003-08-14 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Alberto Monteiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jan Coffey wrote: Actually, they are Heinlein's words, and the full quote is: An armed society is a polite society. Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life. -Robert A. Heinlein, Beyond the Horizon

Re: Heinlein quote

2003-08-14 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Alberto Monteiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Robert Seeberger wrote: An armed society is a polite society. Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life. -Robert A. Heinlein, Beyond the Horizon, 1942 This statemente is totally false. Just look at any

Heinlein quote [was: Politics]

2003-08-14 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Jan Coffey wrote: Actually, they are Heinlein's words, and the full quote is: An armed society is a polite society. Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life. -Robert A. Heinlein, Beyond the Horizon, 1942 I do in fact agree with Heinlein on many things

Re: Heinlein and current international politics L3

2003-03-16 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 15 Mar 2003 at 22:59, Han Tacoma wrote: My opinion is that the French have the same misgivings as the American Jewish community has: | But some Jews are increasingly concerned about the lack of widespread | international support for a pre-emptive strike, and skeptical that the United |

Re: Heinlein and current international politics L3

2003-03-16 Thread Han Tacoma
On Sunday, March 16, 2003 8:10 AM, Andrew Crystall wrote: On 15 Mar 2003 at 22:59, Han Tacoma wrote: My opinion is that the French have the same misgivings as the American Jewish community has: I retract my _generalization_ of the American Jewish Community in the context that I used it.

Re: Heinlein and current international politics L3

2003-03-16 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 16 Mar 2003 at 18:10, Han Tacoma wrote: On Sunday, March 16, 2003 8:10 AM, Andrew Crystall wrote: I realize that Rabbi Schorsch's views are his. While you don't indicate what you mean by proportion (i.e. a percentage), it seems to me that you are using the word as an implication -- that

Re: Heinlein and current international politics L3

2003-03-16 Thread Julia Thompson
Erik Reuter wrote: At the risk of ruining it, can you explain the joke? I know that le is and article for the, but what is le weekend? I thought the French worked short weeks compared to Americans, so they would have at least as long a weekend as Americans. The French adopted the term le

Re: Heinlein and current international politics L3

2003-03-15 Thread Erik Reuter
to America in the future). What likely future situation would result in America taking such a position against FRANCE? The question here is whether this French policy is even worse than the `Solution Unsatisfactory' that Heinlein envisioned? Seems that way. But then, I tend to favor creating, building

Re: Heinlein and current international politics L3

2003-03-15 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2003 9:48 AM Subject: Re: Heinlein and current international politics L3 On Fri, Mar 14, 2003 at 03:38:56PM +, Robert J. Chassell wrote: And, since

Re: Heinlein and current international politics L3

2003-03-15 Thread Robert J. Chassell
... do the French really think the probability of the US attacking or subverting their country sometime in the future is greater than the dangers posed by Hussein? That is not the question. The question is, for example, whether a US government thinks it better that France workers

Re: Heinlein and current international politics L3

2003-03-15 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 15 Mar 2003 at 19:54, Robert J. Chassell wrote: ... do the French really think the probability of the US attacking or subverting their country sometime in the future is greater than the dangers posed by Hussein? That is not the question. The question is, for example, whether

Re: Heinlein and current international politics L3

2003-03-15 Thread Erik Reuter
On Sat, Mar 15, 2003 at 12:34:34PM -0600, Dan Minette wrote: From: Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Do you think many French reason this way? I can understand being concerned about excessive American power in general. But when specifically compared to Hussein, do the French really think the

Re: Heinlein and current international politics L3

2003-03-15 Thread Erik Reuter
On Sat, Mar 15, 2003 at 07:54:38PM +, Robert J. Chassell wrote: ... do the French really think the probability of the US attacking or subverting their country sometime in the future is greater than the dangers posed by Hussein? That is not the question. The question is, for

Re: Heinlein and current international politics L3

2003-03-15 Thread Doug Pensinger
Erik Reuter wrote: At the risk of ruining it, can you explain the joke? I know that le is and article for the, but what is le weekend? I thought the French worked short weeks compared to Americans, so they would have at least as long a weekend as Americans. The use of the word weekend rather

Re: Heinlein and current international politics L3

2003-03-15 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: Doug Pensinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2003 5:33 PM Subject: Re: Heinlein and current international politics L3 Erik Reuter wrote: At the risk of ruining it, can you explain the joke? I know

Re: Heinlein and current international politics L3

2003-03-15 Thread Han Tacoma
On Friday, March 14, 2003 10:38 AM, Robert J. Chassell wrote: Robert Heinlein expressed the problem in a science fiction story in 1941, `Solution Unsatisfactory'. I will get to that in a moment. [...snip...] The question here is whether this French policy is even worse than the `Solution

Heinlein and current international politics L3

2003-03-14 Thread Robert J. Chassell
Robert Heinlein expressed the problem in a science fiction story in 1941, `Solution Unsatisfactory'. I will get to that in a moment. First, the `Jacksonian' tradition in the US. On 13 Mar 2003, Gautam Mukunda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think part of the problem is that there is one party

Scouted: Heinlein Translated Into Dutch...

2003-01-28 Thread Jon Gabriel
...with an unforeseen consequence. :-) Jon Dutchman sold pieces of the moon - - - - - - - - - - - - ASSOCIATED PRESS Jan. 28, 2003  |  AMSTERDAM, Netherlands (AP) -- For years, Rene Veenema says he made a small fortune selling real estate plots on the moon. Now he's in jail, on Earth.

Re: Scouted: Heinlein Translated Into Dutch...

2003-01-28 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 16:17 28-01-2003 -0500, Jon Gabriel wrote: Veenema, who goes on trial next month, was quoted as saying he made thousands of people happy before his business turned sour. He claims he sold plots for around 1,500 euros ($1,600) each through the U.S.-based firm Lunar Embassy. Assuming for a

FWD: [rrff] Notice regarding Virginia Heinlein

2003-01-21 Thread Steve Sloan II
grief, generally, probably should be avoided so as not to clog all our mailboxes. Mrs. Heinlein, however, actively supported the goals of this group; and was always interested in and enjoyed receiving news of its activities. The following was written by another addressee of this group, Dr. Robert

Re: [rrff] Notice regarding Virginia Heinlein

2003-01-21 Thread John Garcia
On Tuesday, January 21, 2003, at 07:07 PM, Steve Sloan II wrote: snippage about Ms. Heinlein Sigh...A very classy lady. She'll be missed. RIP. john ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l