Re: J.D. Goes Hard on Conservatives

2004-01-15 Thread John D. Giorgis
At 10:25 PM 1/12/2004 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Very interesting John, seriously. Thoughtful. Does your dad disagree 
with you on these topics? 

I don't want to assign viewpoints to my Dad without him hear to defend
himself, but I would say that he probably agrees with me on somewhere
around 40% of the above positions so its probably a decent mix.I
don't know how relevant that is though.

JDG
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Re: J.D. Goes Hard on Conservatives

2004-01-12 Thread Bemmzim
In a message dated 1/11/2004 10:38:12 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:

 
 
 O.k., in response to Bob Z.'s challenge, I am going to do nothing but
 criticize conservatives in this post.
 
 1) George W. Bush allowed too many people to be executed in Texas.   (I
 opposed to the death penalty in almost all cases.)
 
 2) Any Republican who criticizes the Bush Administration's recently
 proposed immigration policy is wrong - this is a great policy that, if
 anything, does not go far enough.   They are doubly wrong if they think
 that was only proposed to pander to a certain ethnic group.   It is the
 right policy, it is good for America and it is good for Hispanics.   They
 are tripply wrong if they criticize it on the grounds of not respecting
 the law.   America's current immigration laws are disastrous and
 non-sensical.Perhaps the dumbest comment on this issue comes from Sean
 Hannity who correctly notes that a guest-worker program is a necessity, but
 incredibly, proposes to exclude all the illegal immigrants over here who
 already have jobs.   Hannity also incredibly thinks that this is a
 disastrous thing for our borders - when in fact, by making it much easier
 to enter the country, the Bush Administration will effectively put the old
 coyotes - professional human smugglers - out of business, thus making it
 much harder to sneak into the United States.
 
 3) President Bush is wrong to have underfunded the US National Park System.
  The crown jewels of America should not be falling into disrepair and
 suffer from critical understaffing.
 
 4) Any Republican who doesn't admit that the war on drugs is a failure is
 whistling in the dark.   This probably includes just about every
 politicians in America, sadly, Democrat or Republican.   There needs to be
 a basic recognition that demand creates supply, and prohibition simply
 increases the price - and incentive to supply.
 
 5) President Bush was wrong to abandon his proposed carbon emissions
 trading program.
 
 6) The Catholic Church should recognize that non-abortifacent contraceptive
 pills are not inherently sinful, and are instead a new technological
 development not forseen by previous theologians.  (Note, conservative
 Catholics love the ban on contraception.)
 
 7) The Catholic Church should welcome homosexuals into the priesthood, as
 the natural conclusion of the celibate lifestyle it currently teaches that
 homosexuals are called to.
 
 8) The Catholic Church is far too prone to over-officiousness.  The new
 General Instructions of the Roman Missal, which seems a product of the
 Church's conservative wing, is entirely symptomatic of this problem.
  
 9) President Bush should have found a way to veto at least one spending
 bill at some point.   A 50% increase in transporation spending since 2000,
 while an entirely understandable outcome of a nearly 50/50 Congress, still
 seems like much too much in our current fiscal situation.  (Couldn't these
 Congressmen have been bought off with increased National Park spending? :)
 
 10) I oppose the isolationist wing of the Republican Party who advocate
 withdrawl from the WTO and opposed the invasion of Iraq and the expansion
 of NATO.
 
 11) I oppose all anti-sodomy laws that criminalize homosexual behavior.  
 
 12) I think that the tablet of the 10 Commandments in the Alabama courtroom
 was unconstitutional.
 
 13) The National March for Life is wrong to prevent Homosexuals for Life
 from being an official sponsor of the March.
 
 14) The conservatives who have criticized President Bush for praying in a
 mosque are wrong.   Ditto fot those who criticized the Pope for doing that.
   Ditto for those who criticized President Bush for calling Islam a
 religion of peace.
 
 15) President Bush should have pushed harder for his
 faith-based-initiatives, particularly as a part of tackling the larger
 problem of urban renewal.
 
 16) I think that I disagree with almost everything that Pat Robertson says.
 
 Anyhow, I am sure that there are many more, but I hope that I've made my
 point
 
 JDG
 
 
Very interesting John, seriously. Thoughtful. Does your dad disagree with you on 
these topics? 

But I do think you are on the conservative end of things. I think most americans do 
not share your view that Clinton should have been removed from office for his sexual 
escapades and his lies in a civil suit to cover this up.
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J.D. Goes Hard on Conservatives

2004-01-11 Thread John D. Giorgis
O.k., in response to Bob Z.'s challenge, I am going to do nothing but
criticize conservatives in this post.

1) George W. Bush allowed too many people to be executed in Texas.   (I
opposed to the death penalty in almost all cases.)

2) Any Republican who criticizes the Bush Administration's recently
proposed immigration policy is wrong - this is a great policy that, if
anything, does not go far enough.   They are doubly wrong if they think
that was only proposed to pander to a certain ethnic group.   It is the
right policy, it is good for America and it is good for Hispanics.   They
are tripply wrong if they criticize it on the grounds of not respecting
the law.   America's current immigration laws are disastrous and
non-sensical.Perhaps the dumbest comment on this issue comes from Sean
Hannity who correctly notes that a guest-worker program is a necessity, but
incredibly, proposes to exclude all the illegal immigrants over here who
already have jobs.   Hannity also incredibly thinks that this is a
disastrous thing for our borders - when in fact, by making it much easier
to enter the country, the Bush Administration will effectively put the old
coyotes - professional human smugglers - out of business, thus making it
much harder to sneak into the United States.

3) President Bush is wrong to have underfunded the US National Park System.
  The crown jewels of America should not be falling into disrepair and
suffer from critical understaffing.

4) Any Republican who doesn't admit that the war on drugs is a failure is
whistling in the dark.   This probably includes just about every
politicians in America, sadly, Democrat or Republican.   There needs to be
a basic recognition that demand creates supply, and prohibition simply
increases the price - and incentive to supply.

5) President Bush was wrong to abandon his proposed carbon emissions
trading program.

6) The Catholic Church should recognize that non-abortifacent contraceptive
pills are not inherently sinful, and are instead a new technological
development not forseen by previous theologians.  (Note, conservative
Catholics love the ban on contraception.)

7) The Catholic Church should welcome homosexuals into the priesthood, as
the natural conclusion of the celibate lifestyle it currently teaches that
homosexuals are called to.

8) The Catholic Church is far too prone to over-officiousness.  The new
General Instructions of the Roman Missal, which seems a product of the
Church's conservative wing, is entirely symptomatic of this problem.
  
9) President Bush should have found a way to veto at least one spending
bill at some point.   A 50% increase in transporation spending since 2000,
while an entirely understandable outcome of a nearly 50/50 Congress, still
seems like much too much in our current fiscal situation.  (Couldn't these
Congressmen have been bought off with increased National Park spending? :)

10) I oppose the isolationist wing of the Republican Party who advocate
withdrawl from the WTO and opposed the invasion of Iraq and the expansion
of NATO.

11) I oppose all anti-sodomy laws that criminalize homosexual behavior.  

12) I think that the tablet of the 10 Commandments in the Alabama courtroom
was unconstitutional.

13) The National March for Life is wrong to prevent Homosexuals for Life
from being an official sponsor of the March.

14) The conservatives who have criticized President Bush for praying in a
mosque are wrong.   Ditto fot those who criticized the Pope for doing that.
   Ditto for those who criticized President Bush for calling Islam a
religion of peace.

15) President Bush should have pushed harder for his
faith-based-initiatives, particularly as a part of tackling the larger
problem of urban renewal.

16) I think that I disagree with almost everything that Pat Robertson says.

Anyhow, I am sure that there are many more, but I hope that I've made my
point

JDG


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