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From: Matt Grimaldi matzeb...@yahoo.com
Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 17:22:29
To: Killer Bs \(David Brin et al\) Discussionbrin-l@mccmedia.com
Subject: Re: Br!n: Libertarian Morality--Up with good King John,
down with Robin Hood.
That falls in with IAAMOAC. There are dues to pay when you
Dan M wrote:
Of course, I knew there was another strain in libertarianism that was
based in morality. This was an ideological commitment to maximize
individual freedom. Basically Aleister Crowley's Harm no one and do
what thou wilt, with the harm no one clause being
On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 7:42 PM, Trent Shipley tship...@deru.com wrote:
It started me thinking about the bases of libertarianism and American
conservatism. Previously when I had thought of libertarianism, I had
not thought of it as particularly based in a moral principle.
Good for you...
While writing this I tried to imagine how a certain kind of libertarian
thought about the world. It is a shallow exercise in participant
observation. To appreciate what I wrote you must at least partially
empathize with our libertarian subject.
Nick Arnett wrote:
On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 7:42
Trent Shipley wrote:
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The moral principle that taxes are theft suffers from a similar
limitation. Logically taxes ARE theft.
Newspeak!
I stand behind this. When theft is understood as any taking, except as
punishment, then taxes are logically a form of theft. It's a logical
--Up with good King John, down with
Robin Hood.
Trent Shipley wrote:
...
The moral principle that taxes are theft suffers from a similar
limitation. Logically taxes ARE theft.
Newspeak!
I stand behind this. When theft is understood as any taking, except as
punishment
Of course, I knew there was another strain in libertarianism that was
based in morality. This was an ideological commitment to maximize
individual freedom. Basically Aleister Crowley's Harm no one and do
what thou wilt, with the harm no one clause being
optional--particularly when doing
I wrote a suggestion to my Arizona State legislators about de-funding
the state universities in favor of tuition vouchers. Vouchers would be
in keeping with Arizona's conservative libertarian bias in favor of a
low taxes-low wages-strong small business environment. If I lived in
Massachusetts or
Trent Shipley wrote:
I wrote a suggestion to my Arizona State legislators about de-funding
the state universities in favor of tuition vouchers.
...
Dear Senator Linda Gray, Representative Doug Quelland, and
Representative Jim Weiers,
...
“Be it resolved that the mission of Arizona's public
David Hobby wrote:
Trent Shipley wrote:
I wrote a suggestion to my Arizona State legislators about de-funding
the state universities in favor of tuition vouchers.
...
Dear Senator Linda Gray, Representative Doug Quelland, and
Representative Jim Weiers,
...
“Be it resolved that the
Trent Shipley wrote:
Hi. It's interesting. I wonder about the last bit,
though. How does one tell whether or not a profession
is essential? (I can certainly name some that I feel
are NOT essential, but let's get beyond our personal biases.)
One answer may be a profession is essential
David Hobby wrote:
Trent Shipley wrote:
Hi. It's interesting. I wonder about the last bit,
though. How does one tell whether or not a profession
is essential? (I can certainly name some that I feel
are NOT essential, but let's get beyond our personal biases.)
One answer may be a
from this thread.
And thrive all.
db
From: Trent Shipley tship...@deru.com
To: brin-l@mccmedia.com
Sent: Thursday, August 6, 2009 7:42:49 PM
Subject: Brin: Libertarian Morality--Up with good King John, down with Robin
Hood.
I wrote a suggestion to my Arizona
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