Dan M wrote:
None, once it's out there. IIRC, it's a small wind turbine that cools
collectors in it, and desert air is often humid even if it doesn't
rain much.
If the collectors are cooled, there _has to be_ a source of energy that is
being used. If not, then we've just found an
On 13/07/2009, at 10:13 AM, Dan M wrote:
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From: brin-l-boun...@mccmedia.com [mailto:brin-l-
boun...@mccmedia.com] On
Behalf Of Charlie Bell
None, once it's out there. IIRC, it's a small wind turbine that cools
collectors in it, and desert air is often humid even
On 13/07/2009, at 4:31 PM, Doug Pensinger wrote:
Dan M wrote:
None, once it's out there. IIRC, it's a small wind turbine that
cools
collectors in it, and desert air is often humid even if it doesn't
rain much.
If the collectors are cooled, there _has to be_ a source of energy
that
Charlie Bell wrote:
Maybe I forgot to take into account the brainwashing that happened
when he entered the oil industry, and he can't see the words 'wind
and turbine if they're adjacent to each other. Dan, is this words,
or a blank space: WIND TURBINE ? How about this? RENEWABLE
If it takes a lot of energy to condense the water, then you need a
large wind-turbine or a lot of solar panels.
And how much energy does it take to manufacture the wind-turbines or
solar panels?
Would it have been more efficient to run a large-scale desalination
plant somewhere else (perhaps
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From: Charlie Bell char...@culturelist.org
Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 19:25:51 +1000
To: brin-l@mccmedia.com
Subject: Re: Drinking Water From Air Humidity
Charlie wrote:
Read it again properly, and don't treat me like a first grader.
I asked how much energy
On 13/07/2009, at 11:39 PM, John Williams wrote:
If it takes a lot of energy to condense the water, then you need a
large wind-turbine or a lot of solar panels.
Depends how much water you need.
And how much energy does it take to manufacture the wind-turbines or
solar panels?
Depends on
On 13/07/2009, at 11:57 PM, dsummersmi...@comcast.net wrote:
In other words, I'd bet a case vs. a bottle of beer that it's a lot
prettier on paper than in practice as a means of providing, say, Las
Vegas,
with drinking water. Because turbines supply the energy doesn't
mean that
its
On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 7:05 AM, Charlie Bellchar...@culturelist.org wrote:
On 13/07/2009, at 11:39 PM, John Williams wrote:
If it takes a lot of energy to condense the water, then you need a
large wind-turbine or a lot of solar panels.
Depends how much water you need.
And how much energy
On 14/07/2009, at 12:18 AM, John Williams wrote:
On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 7:05 AM, Charlie
Bellchar...@culturelist.org wrote:
On 13/07/2009, at 11:39 PM, John Williams wrote:
If it takes a lot of energy to condense the water, then you need a
large wind-turbine or a lot of solar panels.
At 07:05 AM 7/13/2009, Dan M wrote:
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Because it clearly won't work well at any time but the pre dawn hours in
the desert. The collectors have to be cooled below the dew point. Let me
give a US example. In Las Vegas yesterday, in the heat of the day, the
temperature was 42C, while the dew
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From: brin-l-boun...@mccmedia.com [mailto:brin-l-boun...@mccmedia.com] On
Behalf Of hkhenson
Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 12:29 PM
To: brin-l@mccmedia.com
Subject: Re: Drinking Water From Air Humidity
At 07:05 AM 7/13/2009, Dan M wrote:
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Because
Why doesn't the wind turbine count as a source of energy?
It absolutely does. My question concerned how much energy per liter
compared to other unconventional methods.
It's pretty obvious that when he said none he meant no _external_ source
of energy.
Well, since he was responding to my
On 12/07/2009, at 3:42 PM, Warren Ockrassa wrote:
On Jul 11, 2009, at 7:03 PM, Charlie Bell wrote:
There are several devices to do this, some of them actually on the
market. One is a wind turbine arrangement that produces around 10
litres an hour (plenty for drinking purposes for several
On 7/12/2009 1:53:34 AM, Charlie Bell (char...@culturelist.org) wrote:
On 12/07/2009, at 3:42 PM, Warren Ockrassa wrote:
On Jul 11, 2009, at 7:03 PM, Charlie Bell wrote:
There are several devices to do this, some of them actually on the
market. One is a wind turbine arrangement that
-Original Message-
From: brin-l-boun...@mccmedia.com [mailto:brin-l-boun...@mccmedia.com] On
Behalf Of Charlie Bell
There are several devices to do this, some of them actually on the
market. One is a wind turbine arrangement that produces around 10
litres an hour (plenty for
On 13/07/2009, at 4:26 AM, Dan M wrote:
-Original Message-
From: brin-l-boun...@mccmedia.com [mailto:brin-l-
boun...@mccmedia.com] On
Behalf Of Charlie Bell
There are several devices to do this, some of them actually on the
market. One is a wind turbine arrangement that produces
-Original Message-
From: brin-l-boun...@mccmedia.com [mailto:brin-l-boun...@mccmedia.com] On
Behalf Of Charlie Bell
None, once it's out there. IIRC, it's a small wind turbine that cools
collectors in it, and desert air is often humid even if it doesn't
rain much.
If the
On 16/06/2009, at 2:22 PM, net_democr...@yahoo.com wrote:
In the seminal science fiction book 'Dune,' Frank Herbert
envisioned the Fremen collecting water from the air via moisture
traps and dew collectors. Science Daily reprints a press release
from the Fraunhofer Institute in
On Jul 11, 2009, at 7:03 PM, Charlie Bell wrote:
There are several devices to do this, some of them actually on the
market. One is a wind turbine arrangement that produces around 10
litres an hour (plenty for drinking purposes for several people!).
Vaporators? My first job was programming
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