Re: Sanity prevails

2008-08-19 Thread Mauro Diotallevi
On 8/18/08, Richard Baker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bruce quoted: A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders,

Re: Sanity prevails

2008-08-19 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Aug 18, 2008, at 2:02 PM, Alberto Monteiro wrote: Ok, let's see how Heinleinian I can claim to be :-) A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, Ok, ok butcher a hog, Never done it. conn a ship, I have no idea what's that. But I can pilot a spaceship (did

Re: Sanity prevails

2008-08-18 Thread Richard Baker
Bruce quoted: A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new

Re: Sanity prevails

2008-08-18 Thread Julia Thompson
On Mon, 18 Aug 2008, Richard Baker wrote: Bruce quoted: A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act

Re: Sanity prevails

2008-08-18 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Richard Baker asked: Can anyone non-fictional do all of those things adequately well? I think it's much better to do a few of them very well and rely on others to do different subsets and trade skills or goods and so forth. It seems to me that all the people who've done most to

Re: Sanity prevails

2008-08-18 Thread Julia Thompson
On Mon, 18 Aug 2008, Alberto Monteiro wrote: Richard Baker asked: pitch manure, What's that? Herbivore poop. Great fertilizer! Julia ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Sanity prevails

2008-08-18 Thread Doug Pensinger
Julia wrote: On Mon, 18 Aug 2008, Alberto Monteiro wrote: Richard Baker asked: pitch manure, What's that? Herbivore poop. Great fertilizer! Or shovel sh*t, to be succinct. Doug ___

Re: Sanity prevails

2008-08-18 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
At 02:02 PM Monday 8/18/2008, Alberto Monteiro wrote: pitch manure, What's that? Required skill for politicians and other bureaucrats. . . . ronn! :) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Sanity prevails

2008-08-17 Thread William T Goodall
On 16 Aug 2008, at 17:29, Bruce Bostwick wrote: One of the articles I saw on this mentioned that at least one of the textbooks in question (the one quoted as saying if (scientific) conclusions contradict the Word of God, the conclusions are wrong) was published by Bob Jones University.

Re: Sanity prevails

2008-08-17 Thread Olin Elliott
, August 17, 2008 8:15 AM Subject: Re: Sanity prevails On 16 Aug 2008, at 17:29, Bruce Bostwick wrote: One of the articles I saw on this mentioned that at least one of the textbooks in question (the one quoted as saying if (scientific) conclusions contradict the Word of God

Re: Sanity prevails

2008-08-17 Thread Alberto Vieira Ferreira Monteiro
William T Goodall quoted: World History and Cultures in Christian Perspective This well-researched text stands on the conviction that God is the Creator of the world and the Controller of history. (...) and concluded: These people are mad Maru And yet, if _we_ are right (i.e., Evolution

Re: Sanity prevails

2008-08-17 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Aug 17, 2008, at 4:58 PM, Alberto Vieira Ferreira Monteiro wrote: And yet, if _we_ are right (i.e., Evolution rulez), then _we_ are mad, because it seems that believing in nonsense is a reproductive advantage... When the belief system itself is a meme which demands conceiving large

Re: Sanity prevails

2008-08-17 Thread Olin Elliott
a threat to themselves and everyone around them. - Original Message - From: Alberto Vieira Ferreira Monteiromailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs (David Brin et al) Discussionmailto:brin-l@mccmedia.com Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2008 2:58 PM Subject: Re: Sanity prevails William T

Sanity prevails

2008-08-16 Thread William T Goodall
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/08/13/BAQT129NMG.DTLtype=printable (08-12) 17:25 PDT SAN FRANCISCO -- A federal judge says the University of California can deny course credit to applicants from Christian high schools whose textbooks declare the Bible infallible and

Re: Sanity prevails

2008-08-16 Thread Olin Elliott
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Brin-Lmailto:brin-l@mccmedia.com Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2008 7:01 AM Subject: Sanity prevails http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/08/13/BAQT129NMG.DTLtype=printablehttp://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/08/13/BAQT129NMG.DTLtype

Re: Sanity prevails

2008-08-16 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Aug 16, 2008, at 10:12 AM, Olin Elliott wrote: (08-12) 17:25 PDT SAN FRANCISCO -- A federal judge says the University of California can deny course credit to applicants from Christian high schools whose textbooks declare the Bible infallible and reject evolution. Rejecting

Sanity Prevails: Judge rules against 'intelligent design'

2005-12-20 Thread Gary Nunn
Judge rules against 'intelligent design' excerpts... HARRISBURG, Pa. - In one of the biggest courtroom clashes between faith and evolution since the 1925 Scopes Monkey Trial, a federal judge barred a Pennsylvania public school district Tuesday from teaching intelligent design in biology class,

Re: Sanity Prevails: Judge rules against 'intelligent design'

2005-12-20 Thread Doug Pensinger
Gary wrote: Jones decried the breathtaking inanity of the Dover policy and accused several board members of lying to conceal their true motive, which he said was to promote religion. Thank goodness sanity prevails _sometimes_. Note that Jones is a Bush appointee, too, not a Michael Moore