Re: Social solutions rather than engineering ones

2010-02-23 Thread Keith Henson
On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 8:30 AM, Michael Harney wrote: > > Keith Henson wrote: >> I am appalled (though not surprised) that people on this list who >> "don't have any answers" suggest "it might just require the end of >> wasteful materialism" and joke about soylent green. >> > I agree, how dare t

Re: Social solutions rather than engineering ones

2010-02-22 Thread Doug Pensinger
Dave wrote: > Trent has opined similarly in the past, with a tone that says that a > significant human die-off is perfectly acceptable to him. On at least > one occasion, I believe he was invited to go first. I am of neither the > opinion that such a die-off is acceptable nor that he should be fi

Re: Social solutions rather than engineering ones

2010-02-22 Thread Dave Land
On Feb 21, 2010, at 9:12 PM, Michael Harney wrote: Keith Henson wrote: I am appalled (though not surprised) that people on this list who "don't have any answers" suggest "it might just require the end of wasteful materialism" and joke about soylent green. I agree, how dare they! Except, I d

Re: Social solutions rather than engineering ones

2010-02-21 Thread Michael Harney
Keith Henson wrote: I am appalled (though not surprised) that people on this list who "don't have any answers" suggest "it might just require the end of wasteful materialism" and joke about soylent green. I agree, how dare they! Except, I don't remember anyone saying that. I remember some

Social solutions rather than engineering ones

2010-02-21 Thread Keith Henson
I am appalled (though not surprised) that people on this list who "don't have any answers" suggest "it might just require the end of wasteful materialism" and joke about soylent green. Energy hungry synthetic nitrogen is the reason for something between 1/3 and 1/2 of crop yield. The ending of fa