Re: Strange New Planet Baffles Astronomers

2006-09-23 Thread Julia Thompson

Ronn!Blankenship wrote:

The scientists will continue observing HAT-P-1 to see if such an 
explanation could hold in this case, but until we can find an 
explanation for both of these swollen planets, they remain a great 
mystery, Sasselov said.


I hear swollen planet and I'm thinking bruising.  :)

Then again, I've been badly bruised this month, and I'm still pretty 
tender in spots (and those spots feel swollen, as well).  :P


Julia
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Re: Strange New Planet Baffles Astronomers

2006-09-23 Thread Medievalbk
I say it's a dyson sphere and to hell with
calling it a planet.
 
 
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Strange New Planet Baffles Astronomers

2006-09-14 Thread Ronn!Blankenship

Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics
Release No.: 06-24
For Release: EMBARGOED UNTIL 10:00 a.m. EDT, September 14, 2006

Note to editors: High-resolution images to accompany this release are 
online at http://www.cfa.harvard.edu/press/pr0624image.html.



Strange New Planet Baffles Astronomers

Washington, DC - Using a network of small automated telescopes known 
as HAT, Smithsonian astronomers have discovered a planet unlike any 
other known world. This new planet, designated HAT-P-1, orbits one 
member of a pair of distant stars 450 light-years away in the 
constellation Lacerta.


We could be looking at an entirely new class of planets, said 
Gaspar Bakos, a Hubble fellow at the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for 
Astrophysics (CfA). Bakos designed and built the HAT network and is 
lead author of a paper submitted to the Astrophysical Journal 
describing the discovery.


With a radius about 1.38 times Jupiter's, HAT-P-1 is the largest 
known planet. In spite of its huge size, its mass is only half that 
of Jupiter.


This planet is about one-quarter the density of water, Bakos said. 
In other words, it's lighter than a giant ball of cork! Just like 
Saturn, it would float in a bathtub if you could find a tub big 
enough to hold it, but it would float almost three times higher.


HAT-P-1 revolves around its host star every 4.5 days in an orbit 
one-twentieth of the distance from Earth to the Sun. Once each orbit, 
it passes in front of its parent star, causing the star to appear 
fainter by about 1.5 percent for more than two hours, after which the 
star returns to its previous brightness.


HAT-P-1's parent star is one member of a double-star system called 
ADS 16402 and is visible in binoculars. The two stars are separated 
by about 1500 times the Earth-Sun distance. The stars are similar to 
the Sun but slightly younger - about 3.6 billion years old compared 
to the Sun's age of 4.5 billion years.


Although stranger than any other extrasolar planet found so far, 
HAT-P-1 is not alone in its low-density status. The first planet ever 
found to transit its star, HD 209458b, also is puffed up about 20 
percent larger than predicted by theory. HAT-P-1 is 24 percent larger 
than expected.


Out of eleven known transiting planets, now not one but two are 
substantially bigger and lower in density than theory predicts, said 
co-author Robert Noyes (CfA). We can't dismiss HD209458b as a fluke. 
This new discovery suggests something could be missing in our 
theories of how planets form.


Theorists had already considered a number of possibilities to explain 
the large size of HD 209458b, but so far without success. The only 
way to puff up these giant planets beyond the size calculated from 
planetary structure equations would be to supply additional heat to 
their interiors. Simple heating of the surface due to the host star's 
proximity would not work. (If it could, all close-in transiting giant 
planets should be expanded, not just two of them.)


One way to inject energy into the planet's center is by tipping it on 
its side, similar to Uranus in the solar system. A planet in that 
state orbiting close to its star would be subjected to tidal heating 
of the interior. But according to Smithsonian astronomer Matthew 
Holman (who was not a member of the discovery team), the 
circumstances required to tip over a planet are so unusual that this 
would seem unlikely to explain both known examples of inflated worlds.


According to co-author Dimitar Sasselov (CfA), Another explanation 
for HD 209458b's large size was tidal heating due to an eccentric 
orbit, but recent observations have pretty much ruled that out.


The scientists will continue observing HAT-P-1 to see if such an 
explanation could hold in this case, but until we can find an 
explanation for both of these swollen planets, they remain a great 
mystery, Sasselov said.


The HAT network consists of six telescopes, four at the Smithsonian 
Astrophysical Observatory's Whipple Observatory in Arizona and two at 
its Submillimeter Array facility in Hawaii. These telescopes conduct 
robotic observations every clear night, each covering an area of the 
sky 300 times the size of the full moon with every exposure.


HAT searches for planets by watching for stars that dim slightly when 
an orbiting planet crosses directly in front of the star as viewed 
from Earth - a sort of mini-eclipse. Transits offer astronomers a 
unique opportunity to measure a planet's physical size from the 
amount of the dimming. Combined with the mass, which is determined by 
measuring the amount of the star's wobble as the planet orbits it, 
researchers then calculated a planet's density. Measurements of the 
wobble of HAT-P-1's parent star were led by co-author Debra Fischer 
of San Francisco State University.


Major funding for HATnet was provided by NASA. More information about 
HAT is available online at http://www.cfa.harvard.edu/~gbakos/HAT/.


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Re: Strange New Planet Baffles Astronomers

2006-09-14 Thread David Hobby

Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
...

Strange New Planet Baffles Astronomers

Washington, DC - Using a network of small automated telescopes known as 
HAT, Smithsonian astronomers have discovered a planet unlike any other 
known world. This new planet, designated HAT-P-1, orbits one member of a 
pair of distant stars 450 light-years away in the constellation Lacerta.

...
With a radius about 1.38 times Jupiter's, HAT-P-1 is the largest known 
planet. In spite of its huge size, its mass is only half that of Jupiter.

...
HAT-P-1's parent star is one member of a double-star system called ADS 
16402 and is visible in binoculars. The two stars are separated by about 
1500 times the Earth-Sun distance. The stars are similar to the Sun but 

...

Ronn--

Thanks for the ghost-post.  Here are a couple
questions for what they're worth:

It says largest known planet.  Does this mean
largest planet with a known radius?  There are
certainly heavier extrasolar planets.  Is there
some theoretical reason to expect heavier hot
jupiters to have smaller radii?

I also have a problem with the juxtaposition of
450 LY, visible in binoculars and similar
to the Sun.  The Sun is certainly not visible
in anything you'd call binoculars from 450 light
years away.  So I'd guess that these stars are
a LOT brighter?

---David

Planet Cork  Maru


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Re: Strange New Planet Baffles Astronomers

2006-09-14 Thread Medievalbk
It's not a planet, it's a giant light baffle.
 
Vilyehm
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